Brandon Morrow.....

by PittsburghStealer on Feb 15, 2008 6:42 PM EST Comment 12 comments

Sorry but I have paid very little attention this off-season, just heard Gammons on SC saying Morrow will be with Putz at the back of the M's bullpen. Is this temporary or does Seattle intend on keeping him in the bullpen? If they fall out does he get a chance to start?

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All signs point to him working out of the pen for the entire season. With Bedard, Hernandez, Silva, Washburn, Batista in the rotation and guys like Horacio Ramirez for the spot start here, or when injury strikes. It doesnt look like Morrow will get a chance at the starting rotation.

by natedogg430 on Feb 15, 2008 6:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I hate the Mariners

Put the kid in AAA and let him start.

"The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns." -mckeeno

by PujolsJunkie on Feb 15, 2008 7:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

ditto

i hate the mariners and how they handle everything as an organization

they seem to handle there prospects with horrible care

they rely on their international market way to much

i fear for the raw but talented aumont cause of the crappy team he got drafted by

Oakland A's 4 Life

by manny59 on Feb 15, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ripping the Mariners...

with a signature like that. Biased much?

"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile

by Boxkutter on Feb 15, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I have.......

no vested interest in any AL west team , but do agree that Seattle has delayed or derailed the progress of many big names. Opinions vary greatly but their handling of high rated prospects such as Jones, Balentien, Clement, and King Felix is questionable at best.

Anyone remember being excited about Zach Duke?

by PittsburghStealer on Feb 15, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Clement I'll give you...

but I think they brought Jones, Balentien, and F-Her along the right way. You might think that Jones was rushed a little going from A+ to AAA in the span of a season, but he has done well in the minors his whole career. When he was in AAA they gave him a cup in the majors, and he didn't do too hot. The next season then started him in AAA again and he proceeded to have his best year as a pro, which earned him another shot in the majors and likely will have him in a MLB OF in 2008.

I don't see how anyone could complain about Balentien's progress. He basically was moved up a level every season. How is that mismanaged? Maybe you can argue that with his high K rates he deserved to repeat a level once, I don't know. His worst year as a pro was 2006, but in the second half of that season his plate discipline improved drastically and they rewarded him with a promotion the next season.

And with F-Her, he basically completed two levels a season. Was he rushed? Other than an increased BB rate in AAA, there are no signs he was. His K-rate never dropped below 9.1 in any minor league season. His ERA never got over 3.30. His innings gradually increased (2003: 69 IP, 2004: 150IP, 2005: 172IP, 2006: 191IP, 2007: 190IP). You can say he was rushed, but he produced at every level he pitched. Why keep him at a level he is dominating?

"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile

by Boxkutter on Feb 16, 2008 4:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He will not be in the back of the pen.

At least not right away. Remember, he still sucks for now.

by elrey34 on Feb 15, 2008 11:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

There are lots or reasons for Mariner fans

to hate the Mariners FO; Brandon Morrow is one of them. Thing is, while you can blame a lot of this on Bavasi, the initial blame has to go to a guy who isn't even here anymore: Mike Hargrove.

Hargrove was the one who pushed for Morrow to be used in the pen in 2007 for the Mariners, and all it has done is stunted his growth as a starter. People who say Morrow has no chance to be a starter are unfairly punishing someone who has had virtually no development time in the minors to work on secondary stuff.

When you want to talk about rushed prospects, there are lots of names to talk about. But Morrow's goes way beyond that.

by TIF on Feb 16, 2008 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I see Morrow's name on my roster

and I want to cry. It's a real shame.

I will never deal him.

My sea diamond, always and forever.

"The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns." -mckeeno

by PujolsJunkie on Feb 18, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus

why don't we at least see the guy become a poor ML pitcher or fail as a starter before we say that the Mariner's have caused this to happen before it ever has.

If Morrow is a good starter in 2009 is this all still the Ms fault?

by nms on Feb 18, 2008 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

M's Fault

Yes, it is. They should have drafted the local kid. :)

by sharksrog on Feb 18, 2008 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus

this is not a thread about Tim Lincecum.
Hes a good pitcher, but let it go

by nms on Feb 18, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Alou?

Well, hopefully both pitchers will do well in their respective careers. I suspect at the time of the draft had the Mariners taken the local boy and the Giants wound up with Brandon Morrow (which might or might not have been the case), the fans of both teams would have been happy that their teams had taken homegrown players.

Meanwhile, I rather resent your telling me what I should post and not post. It smacks a bit of sour grapes.

by sharksrog on Feb 19, 2008 10:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs