Community Prospect List: #86
by King Billy Royal on Dec 3, 2008 6:23 PM EST
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PrintAfter 249 votes the winner of the poll is Jose Tabata with 14% of the vote. Danny Duffy, Chris Perez, Jason Castro, Jonathan Niese will be removed from the poll as they failed to achieve at least 7% of the vote. Nick Adenhart, Cedric hunter, Andrew Lambo, Kyle Skipworth, Kila Ka'Aihue, will be added to the poll.
1. MATT WIETERS - C (Baltimore)
2. DAVID PRICE - SP (Tampa Bay)
3. JASON HEYWARD - OF (Atlanta)
4. TRAVIS SNIDER - OF (Toronto)
5. MADISON BUMGARNER - SP (San Francisco)
6. COLBY RASMUS - OF (St. Louis)
7. CAMERON MAYBIN - OF (Florida)
8. TREVOR CAHILL - SP (Oakland)
9. NEFTALI FELIZ - SP (Texas)
10. MATT LAPORTA - 1B/OF/DH (Cleveland)
11. MIKE MOUSTAKAS - 3B (Kansas City)
12. TIM ALDERSON - SP (San Francisco)
13. PEDRO ALVAREZ - 3B (Pittsburgh)
14. RICK PORCELLO - SP (Detroit)
15. DEXTER FOWLER - OF (Colorado)
16. BRETT ANDERSON - SP (Oakland)*
17. DEREK HOLLAND - SP (Texas)
18. ANDREW McCUTCHEN - OF (Pittsburgh)
19. BUSTER POSEY - C (San Francisco)
20. CHRIS TILLMAN - SP (Baltimore)
21. LARS ANDERSON - 1B (Boston)
22. JUSTIN SMOAK - 1B (Texas)
23. THOMAS HANSON - SP (Atlanta)
24. ELVIS ANDRUS - SS (Texas)
25. ANGEL VILLALONA - 1B (San Francisco)
26. JHOULYS CHACIN - SP (Colorado)
27. BRIAN MATUSZ - SP (Baltimore)
28. ERIC HOSMER - 1B (Kansas City)
29. TIM BECKHAM - SS (Tampa Bay)
30. MAX RAMIREZ - C/1B (Texas)
31. JARROD PARKER - SP (Arizona)
32. MICHAEL STANTON - OF (Florida)
33. MAT GAMEL - 3B (Milwaukee)
34. JESUS MONTERO - C (New York-AL)
35. BRETT WALLACE - 3B (St. Louis)
36. JORDAN SCHAFER - OF (Atlanta)
37. WADE DAVIS - SP (Tampa Bay)
38. LOGAN MORRISON - 1B (Florida)
39. CARLOS SANTANA - C (Cleveland)
40. FERNANDO MARTINEZ - OF (New York-NL)
41. JAMES McDONALD - SP (Los Angeles-NL)
42. JEREMY HELLICKSON - SP (Tampa Bay)
43. JOSH VITTERS - 3B (Chicago-NL)
44. YONDER ALONSO - 1B (Cincinnati)
45. TAYLOR TEAGARDEN - C (Texas)
46. FREDDIE FREEMAN - 1B (Atlanta)
47. GORDON BECKHAM - SS (Chicago-AL)
48. BRETT CECIL - SP (Toronto)
49. ALCIDES ESCOBAR - SS (Milwaukee)
50. JORDAN ZIMMERMANN - SP (Washington)
51. CHRIS CARTER - 1B/DH (Oakland)
52. CARLOS TRIUNFEL - SS (Seattle)
53. AUSTIN JACKSON - OF (New York-AL)
54. BEN REVERE - OF (Minnesota)
55. MICHAEL BOWDEN - SP (Boston)
56. TYLER FLOWERS - C (Atlanta)
57. ADRIAN CARDENAS - SS (Oakland)
58. REID BRIGNAC - SS (Tampa Bay)
59. JAKE ARRIETA - SP (Baltimore)
60. JORDAN WALDEN - SP (Los Angeles-AL)
61. MICHAEL MAIN - SP (Texas)
62. WILMER FLORES - SS (New York-NL)
63. MATT DOMINGUEZ - 3B (Florida)
64. MICHAEL SAUNDERS - OF (Seattle)
65. DESMOND JENNINGS - OF (Tampa Bay)
66. CARLOS CARRASCO - SP (Philadelphia)
67. AARON CUNNINGHAM - OF (Oakland)
68. J.P. ARENCIBIA - C (Toronto)
69. GIO GONZALEZ - SP (Oakland)
70. PHILLIPPE AUMONT - SP (Seattle)
71. JEFF SAMARDZIJA - SP/RP (Chicago-NL)
72. MICHAEL INOA - SP (Oakland)
73. AARON HICKS - OF (Minnesota)
74. JEREMY JEFFRESS - SP (Milwaukee)
75. ANGEL SALOME - C (Milwaukee)
76. DANIEL CORTES - SP (Kansas City)
77. GREG HALMAN - OF (Seattle)
78. JACOB McGEE - SP/RP (Tampa Bay)
79. KYLE BLANKS - 1B (San Diego)
80. MARTIN PEREZ - SP (Texas)
81. JULIO BORBON - OF (Texas)
82. NICHOLAS WEGLARZ - OF (Cleveland)
83. JAMES SIMMONS - SP (Oakland)
84. GORKYS HERNANDEZ - OF (Atlanta)
85. JOSE TABATA - OF (Pittsburgh)
CANDIDATES - Jason Donald, Nick Noonan, Michael Burgess, Jonathan Niese, Matt Moore, Aaron Poreda, Daryl Jones, Neftali Soto, Nick Adenhart, Cedric hunter, Andrew Lambo, Kyle Skipworth, Kila Ka'Aihue
TESTERS - Scott Elbert(80-2%), Vincent Mazzaro(80-3%), Chris Coghlan(81-3%), Jeff Niemann(81-2%), Adam Miller(82-4%), Christopher Marrero(82-3%), Dellin Betances(82-2%), Ivan DeJesus(83-5%), David Cooper(84-2%), Michael Taylor(84-3%), Todd Frazier(84-5%), Beau Mills(84-5%) & Brad Holt(84-2%), Danny Duffy (85-5%), Chris Perez (85-6%), Jason Castro (85-2%), Jonathan Niese (85-5%), Nick Barnese
NOTE: I have listed by each tester the last time they were on a poll and the percentage of votes they obtained. This should help us with selecting who should be placed back on the poll etc
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"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Dec 3, 2008 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Who won 85?
It isn’t showing, but Tabata, I presume?
Tester
David Huff
I will test him every time until he at least gets testy!
Matt Moore
Left Handed pitcher, sits 92-94, touches 96, shows the making of plus change and curve, 4.5 to 1 K/BB ratio, struck out 35% of the batters he faced (about 13 Ks per 9), allowed less than 6 hits per 9 innings.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
he should get on
Donald, then Jones, Skippy, Moore, mAzzaro, Soto…
What's the likelihood
that he will be better than Poreda in 2 years or James Simmons?
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I think pretty good
And his overall upside is much higher than either. But that’s just opinion.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
higher upside in your opinion brick?
Barnese or Moore?
I’m guessing Moore from your post, but I thought Barnese was generally more well-rounded of a prospect
Moore
Barnese has great movement on his fastball, from everything I’ve heard, but Moore has more pitches that are close to being plus, throws harder, and is a lefty. The con is that Barnese was a level higher at the same age, has better control and is a bit more projectable. Both have incredible track records so far, albeit at very low levels. The stats and Princeton impress me a bit more though, simply because Princeton is a tough place to pitch, and it seems like every year there’s some pitcher who dominates HV because it’s a very pitching-friendly environment (and because the Rays have had a lot of good pitching prospects roll through there).
Vogt early, Vogt often.
+1
voted for him
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
"If I go to this "party", I will give "save us" a piece of my knuckle sandwich…" -- miles
Skipworth's absence from the list is kind of embarrassing at this point
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Well I voted for him, so I feel good about doing my part.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 3, 2008 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Blame the 1B obsession
We have at least a dozen future first basemen on the list already, and another four up for consideration, and that’s not counting all the Gamel/Wallace/Carter/Ramirez guys as 1B. Outside of 1B, there seems to be a fixation on polished, not-very-high-ceiling catchers, and powerless centerfielders. Maybe I’m just the only person here who doesn’t play fantasy baseball.
So yeah, when a catcher or a shortstop or an athletic corner outfielder is missing, it’s because there’s no room at the inn for guys who play defense.
by aap212 on Dec 3, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
now that is a solid post.
rec’d.
this post is subject to revision based upon whatever colin says the HBT annual has to say on the topic discussed.
Went Daryl Jones
Seems to be a solid OF with a good bat. Also considered going with Donald, Burgess, or Lambo.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Dec 3, 2008 7:27 PM EST reply actions
Poreda...
pretty high ceiling with a pretty high floor too. He could be a very good number 2 or he could be a good closer.
unbelievable!
first we had to dodge the noonan nonsense and now friggin nick adenhart has 8% of the vote.
please, i wouldn’t take 3 nick adenharts for 1 adam miller.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Dec 3, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
miller >>> adenhart
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
"If I go to this "party", I will give "save us" a piece of my knuckle sandwich…" -- miles
adenhart
this is akin to voting for cloris leachman on dancing with the stars.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Dec 3, 2008 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOO
I have visions of Larry Walker in my head.
The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.
love me some lambo!
and to think a pitcher that gets rocked consistently has twice as many votes.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Dec 3, 2008 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Larry Walker?
I don’t see the comp at all. I like Lambo, but come on.
Okay...
I might be a bit optimistic, but they’re practically the same size, have a cannon in RF and have that sweet lefty-swing.
The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.
Yeah, but...
Larry Walker was a phenomenal athlete, which Lambo is not. Also, if it hadn’t been for injuries, Walker would be an easy hall of fame choice. You can’t really project any prospect, let alone one outside the top one or two, to be that great.
Scott Elbert
should be added to the poll next time around. He’s headed to the Dodger’s bullpen for now, but expect Elbert – and his exceptional stuff – to eventually find himself back in the rotation.
curious
is this prediction substantiated or just gut feeling? everything i’ve heard runs contrary to that statement.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Dec 3, 2008 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
He's ready for the majors as a reliever now....
If he can prove he can stay healthy, the Dodgers will Joba him.
- Let it be known that I coined the verb “Joba” -
Let it be known that I
despise the verb “Joba”
Unless… Do you mean Scott Elbert is going to put on weight, get hurt and get into a fight with a Giants fan in a strip club in Nebraska?
I just was looking through the list, and...
Carlos Carrasco at 66! What does this community have against Carrasco? I know, belated but, I am just curious as to someone’s reasoning for that ranking.
lol Noonan
I love the vote stuffing, he went from 16 votes to 41 overnight.
Not necessarily stuffing
It’s pretty obvious that the A’s fans tend to come on here later than most of the other fans.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
after a night of cruising the castro
sorry, couldn’t resist.
Poor Padres
Doesn’t look like they’ll get anyone on the list. I do think Hunter is their best prospect at the moment, sadly…
I do, however, think a tester for Kellen Kulbacki would be appropriate at this point. College home run champ, OPS over 1.000 in high-A….
Vogt early, Vogt often.
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