Houston Astros Prospect Discussion
by John Sickels on Dec 29, 2008 1:00 PM EST
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Two guys
Two guys I’d be interested in are Ross Seaton and Drew Sutton.
Seaton was a third rounder, but would have gone much higher had there not been fears that he would go to Tulane. I believe the Astros gave him 700,000 to sign. Will be interested in how he does in 2009. Perhaps a B- for now?
Sutton is old for a prospect (25) but did have an impressive AA season and followed it up with more of the same in the AFL. The performance likely merits a B+ but the age probably knocks him down to a B-/C+. He could play a role for Houston next year – I believe he’s played 2B, SS, and the OF.
Suton is a Butcer in the feild
If some how the Astros would move him the the OF he would be great, but his glove is what is holding him back.
Throwing out some grading ideas for discussion
Castro B (should be a solid-if-unspectacular catcher)
Bud Norris B- (two good pitches, high K rate, seems like he should be interesting major leaguer in some form)
Seaton B- (over-slot guy who might remain a sleeper to some)
Brian Bogusevic C+ (great tools, interesting story, but still a 24 year old with only 150 ABs since 2005 . . .4th outfielder?)
Jordan Lyles C+ (interesting performance, but projects as #3 starter, a long way from the majors)
Eli Iorg C (sweet tools, but plate discipline is pretty bad for a 25 year old older than his competition and is already limiting his production)
Drew Sutton C (really hit this year, but old, repeated the league, has never hit like this outside of a Sally League stint as a 22 year old . . .95 percent chance his upside is utility guy)
Koby Clemens C (would he even get a chance? some interesting skills, would have been a college junior in 2008)
Felipe Del Paulino C (old, lost season, if he makes it he’ll be a reliever)
Lyles had a very nice debut
He was dominant in rookie ball, and that he even was making appearances in the NYP league as a 17 year old was impressive. I really like what I’ve read about his fastball velocity/command, and the fact that he already has 3 usable secondary pitches at his age is a nice bonus (cutter/curve/change).
RIght.
Numbers are quite good. But he was still a pretty major reach . . .if he had gone where he was projected (somewhere between rounds 5 and 10), then he’d be regarded as a possible sleeper but not more than that. Scouting reports on him have him pegged as a guy with some decent offerings and projection but nothing standout.
If he can pitch well in full-season ball next and/or his stuff takes a step forward . . .well, clearly we’d have to re-evaluate him then. I don’t see a reason to jump the gun based on the current results.
already exceeding early scouting reports
The pre-draft scouting reports had him throwing in the upper 80’s, which caused me to seriously question what they were thinking on draft day. But, at his workout with the club and as a professional, he’s thrown 91-93, which combined with his other other attributes (command, mechanics, secondaries, and projectability), would have placed him much higher than a 5th-10th-round talent. The velocity will probably need to jump another tick to put him as more than a #3 at this point, but he’s definitely young enough to do that and is a guy worth watching.
Koby
He should be moving to Corpus Christi (AA) this season, so he’s not too far away from Houston. Well, at least it’s not that much of a drive. At this point, there aren’t that many guys ahead of him: Santangelo, Towles, Quintero, and Palmisano. Eventually, Castro should pass him and become the everyday catcher by ’11. But, Koby does have an outside shot to become a backup catcher if the cards fall right.
Another guy worth discussing is Chris Johnson. He put up great numbers at AA (.870 OPS) and was considered a breakout candidate entering the season by some (including Callis). He struggled after moving to Round Rock, but put up solid overall numbers in the AFL. His plate discipline could still improve, though he’ll probably never be a high OBP guy. He’s a good defender who can rush his throws, leading to errors. He’s considered the 3B of the future and should be in Houston at some point in ‘08. I’d give him a B-.
by astrosfan76 on Dec 30, 2008 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Geez guys
Don’t all speak at once. No better way to kill a conversation among prospect enthusiasts than to bring up the astros, eh?
I’m surprised nobody brought up Justin Smoak because I really think his bat will — oh right, they passed on Smoak and drafted Jason Castro instead.
this team and its future are seriously frakked.
A few more to add to the mix
1. Chia Jen Lo – where does he rank?
2. Sammy Gervacio – hit a bit of a bump after climbing the ranks as a closer but still good stuff
3. Hope from the injured????
Any word on Josh Flores’ rehab from knee problems?
Sergio Perez – solid after coming off injury
How far does Brad James fall after his rough return from injury?
Tip Fairchild?
4. Digging deeper two guys who pitched at Lexington might have some promise: Leandro Cespedes 137 K/130 IP and Fernando Abad 94 K /76 1/3 IP
Astros
I wonder if John is going to be able to find 20 C prospects in the whole system.
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