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#1 Strasburg... then who?

It's a no-brainer that Strasburg will be selected #1 overall in next June's Draft.  His filthy stuff and exceptional performance warrants his placement atop the 2009 draft class.  However, after Strasburg, it gets very interesting in my opinion.  Is there a consensus #2 or #3 guy?  Likely Top 5?  Where does last year's holdout Aaron Crow fit in?

 

I know its early, but I've decided to rank the Top 10 players for next June's Draft.

 

1. Stephen Strasburg (Nationals)

2. Aaron Crow (Mariners)

3. Grant Green (Padres)

4. Donovan Tate (Pirates)

5. Dustin Ackley (Orioles)

6. Tyler Matzek (Giants)

7. Mathew Purke (Braves)

8. Alex White (Reds)

9. Kyle Gibson (Tigers)

10. Mychel Givens (Nationals)

 

I would like to hear your thoughts on the 2009 Draft.

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Strasburg

Is it definite he gets picked #1? I know he’s the consensus best player, but I would say there’s always a chance his demands are too high and he falls a couple of spots.

by supermets on Dec 28, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well

That’s a good point. It is possible that the Nationals might not want to match Strasburg’s asking price. However, I also think it would be a mistake for the Nats not to take this extremely talented pitcher who seems to be the best talented arm out of the college ranks in awhile (since Prior).

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by Dewey Finn on Dec 28, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nats spending

I think the Nats are in a good place to pick strasburg and meet the price to get him. They showed a willingness to spend this offseason reportedly offering even more money than the yanks. Ultimately their reputation was their undoing. So they will have to continue to build internally just like Tampa Bay. So I believe the stars align and the Nats take Strasburg.

by PhillyPhanatic on Dec 28, 2008 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about the second pick?

Does the fact that the Nats have another pick at the 10 spot affect their strategy? Will they go all out to sign the best player at #1 or do they save money for their other first roung pick?

by DiegoAsFan on Dec 29, 2008 1:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Crow...

if they are so willing to spend, why didn’t they sign their 1st rounder last season?

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by Boxkutter on Dec 29, 2008 1:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE:

As far as the Nats strategy regarding the 1st and 10th pick. I don’t know, i honestly didn’t consider that. That could very much effect the Nats decisions. As far as the Nats not spending on Crow possibly they didn’t feel like committing the amount of money he was asking for to a player they didn’t feel deserved it. Strausburg is the top prospect available in this draft and his stock will be much higher than Crow’s was. The Nationals spending philosophy could have also changed leading to the desire to spend this offseason. I just feel the Nats would spend to get a potential ace like Strausburg. But now considering they have 1 and 10 they might go in a completely different direction.

by PhillyPhanatic on Dec 29, 2008 3:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Price

I am pretty sure David Price would have an argument about being the best pitcher out of college since Prior.

by jbg3004 on Dec 30, 2008 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum

So might the reigning Tim Lincecum, who needed all of 37 games (13 in the minors) between college and the beginning of his first Cy Young campaign.

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by Roger on Dec 30, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At the time of the draft...

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by doublestix on Dec 31, 2008 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Please, God...

Let him fall to #15. I don’t ask for much, and as I Ranger fan, I certainly don’t get much. You owe me this!

I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.

by Ajax68 on Dec 28, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Smoak

already fell to you last year. Rangers have gotten enough.

by supermets on Dec 28, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You already got Smoak damnit

You got your fill of luck for the next 10 years.

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by Zonis on Dec 28, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Smoak doesn't pitch

When we finally get just one (that’s all I’m asking for…one) front line pitcher, then it’s enough.

I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.

by Ajax68 on Dec 28, 2008 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Holland and Feliz

aren’t good enough for you?

by supermets on Dec 28, 2008 11:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lmaoo..

The Rangers have the best system…

by schmosterballs92 on Dec 29, 2008 12:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am suprised that no one has mentioned the concerns about Strasburg pitching mechanics

They are defiantly not the cleanest and will be by draft time a definite point of concern

by laxtonto on Dec 28, 2008 7:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I found it interesting that someone compared his talent to Prior a few posts earlier. Driveline Mechanics did a brief analysis of his mechanics and compared his arm action to prior’s.

It also says:


Strasburg reminds me a lot of Mark Prior – a truly dominant right-handed college pitcher with troubling mechanics: Bad arm action combined with slow tempo. I predict a steady loss of velocity over the first few years of his career leading to him dropping his arm slot and then a major shoulder injury.

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by raisingcain on Dec 29, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Drop the word "college"

And it sounds like Carlos Zambrano right now.

by guru4u on Dec 29, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

since when

Did anyone critisize Mark Priors mechanics, the consensus on him was that his mechanics were picture perfect.

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by jbluestone on Jan 2, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was the consensus, but it isn’t necessarily true. Many mechanics “experts” have significant differences in philosophy, but I think Kyle (writer of the article) was saying that the forced scap loading was a big problem, and is something strasburg also does. Here is his article on scap loading, if you’re interested.

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by raisingcain on Jan 2, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Crow goes that high

but other than that list looks good.

by Bud Light on Dec 28, 2008 5:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

I would move Gibson up a few spots. Also, what does the community think about Austin Maddox?

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by King Billy Royal on Dec 28, 2008 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would...

say mid first round. I think he is better then Kyle Skipworth last year, but others might not. He has a lot of power potential and if he can stick behind the plate, he could end up being a Mike Piazza type(very unlikely).

by joegonzo on Dec 29, 2008 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be a Royal in 6 months

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by doublestix on Dec 29, 2008 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alex White

With another strong season he’ll likely cement himself as the #2 prospect available. I could see Green being the #2 guy, but White to me is #2 right now. Crow likely falls to the 4-5 range IMO.

by guru4u on Dec 28, 2008 6:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Last seasons CWS

White was amazing in the CWS last season. His “stuff” was outstanding.

by nyy601 on Dec 28, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Green or White w decent seasons go 2-3 depending on Mariners tastes. Although I think they grab White. Green falling to SD is there ideal scenario except Strasburg falling.

by Bud Light on Dec 28, 2008 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

im working on my top 50+ (draft eligible) college players list

I should have it finished sometime in January. It will be on several different websites.
but here are a few that should be top 10

Strasberg is without a doubt the top talent (that doesnt mean he FOR SURE goes #1)
Grant Green-SS/USC
Dustin Ackley-CF/UNC
Alex White-RHP/UNC
Aaron Crow
Kyle Gibson-RHP/Mizzou
Andy Oliver-LHP/Okie St.
Robbie Shileds-SS/Fla. Southern
Kendall Volz-RHP/Baylor
Josh Phegley-C/Indiana
Ben Tootle-RHP/Jax St. (closer)
Jason Stoffel-RHP/Arizona (closer)

Mix in some strong HSers
Matt Purke-LHP
Mychal Givens-SS
Donovan Tate-OF
Tyler Matzek-LHP

and possibly Tanner Scheppers depending on how he recovers in his independent league

by bkmhoxx on Dec 28, 2008 6:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How is Gibson?

Do you know anything about him? Is he starter material, or is he going to end up in the bullpen?

by demondeaconsbaseball on Dec 28, 2008 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a lazy bastard

http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/03/25/kylegibsonreport/

Found that on Saber Scouting… he looks interesting, but the complete absence of a changeup is a real concern. He sounds a bit like Jeremy Bonderman.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Dec 28, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Velo

Currently sits in the high 80s-low 90s, however, some believe he can had a few more mph as his body fills out.

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by Dewey Finn on Dec 28, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oops, typo!

had should be add

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Dec 28, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gibson is nice

I got to scout Gibson and Crow last year.
I personally liked Gibson more than Crow (although i dont think he is quite as good)
Gibson throws in the 91-93range with good movement. Gibson has an amazing slider and a change in the 70’s. Gibson also has a very good pitchers body and is very projectable.

by bkmhoxx on Dec 28, 2008 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

phegley

probably the best player i’ve ever played with, including brandon crawford, danny mcdaniel, brad bergesen, tyson ross, justin friend, etc. him and matt bashore are going to lead the hoosiers this year.

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by flipgatey3 on Jan 1, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ackley

Ackley hasn’t played CF (or OF) since the first half of his freshman season. Not sure if he can get back into it this late in the game. Helluva hitter though.

by Ellis on Jan 4, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Donovan Tate

Tate has agreed to play football with Butch Davis at UNC. He could change his mind, but I doubt he does.

by Robinson Checo on Dec 28, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Crow vs White

Would it be a $ issue for why Crow would be selected behind White?

As far as I know, Alex White is a fastball/slider guy. Crow’s FB/SL combo is better.

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by Dewey Finn on Dec 28, 2008 7:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

where's P-Kendall Volz?

I would rate him awfully close to Crow….

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 28, 2008 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

also Fields

Yeah i would probably rank Crow just a tad bit ahead of White since he is a year older and ready for the show. BUT it will depend on what White shows this year too.
White thorws in the 94-97 range with a sinking FB and a killer slider. White is working on and develeoping his changeup. White also is a great athlete with an amazing arm.
Crow has all of those things, minus a little bit of athleticism, with an odd arm delivery that some think may lead to future injury. I could actually see White sneaking up to the #2 pick behind Strasburg by years end.

and lest we forget Josh Fields.
He is top 20 caliber since he could get outs in MLB right now.

by bkmhoxx on Dec 28, 2008 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fields

Seattle can still sign him. I’m not convinced that he’s not their best option for saves right now (absent any FA signings). If the Mariners do sign him in time (up to a month or so before the draft IIRC), he might get some action in the bigs in the second half of 09. I agree – he could get outs in MLB right now.

by guru4u on Dec 28, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Braves

I don’t think they let white pass if he’s there even though they are notorious for drafting high school guys.

I’m really, really hoping that Grant Green drops to the Braves though.

by Jay212033 on Dec 28, 2008 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

re

braves insiders have already said if donovan tate lasts, they take him no matter what.

they say he is a high school level player and athlete in the same class as hayward

by ScottAZ on Jan 5, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm convinced that

Tyler Matzek will go top 5.. He’s a big lefty with plus stuff, good command, and he knows how to pitch. I think he’s going to bust out in the spring and separate himself from the rest of the HS pitchers. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go to the mariners or pirates.

by spoondoggie on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope that Alex Wite or Grant Green falls to the Orioles!

If not, then I would be happy with Donovan Tate or Tyler Matzek.

by Orioles77 on Dec 28, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Grant Green would fill that SS hole nicely

by Birdfan01 on Dec 28, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone have a link to any list of the top college prospects?

It’d be greatly appreciated.

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by hero66 on Dec 28, 2008 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

CBB

this site isnt necessarily for prospecting but its still very helpful for such

http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/2009-season-coverage/top-50-players/

by bkmhoxx on Dec 28, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Baseball America has top college and HS player lists.

by prhood on Jan 4, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners

new GM is big on college guys, so I think they’ll take the best hitter on the board in Green. If Ackley has a big spring I think he could leap frog Green.

by MightyMoose on Dec 28, 2008 11:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hoping...

that since Washington wasn’t able to sign Crow this past year, they will pick a player with slightly less demands and Seattle can take Strasburg #2… similar to what happened when Prior came out but Minnesota took Mauer #1 due to signability concerns.

If that can happen, and the Seahawks get a good player in April, it may partially make up for the worst season in Seattle Sports History.

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by Boxkutter on Dec 29, 2008 1:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty weird to read

I understand the primary point you’re making is to have the top rated guy fall to your team, but given the concerns about Strasburg’s mechanics it’s fairly foreboding for you to want him to fall to your team so that you could get the “Mark Prior” player instead of the “Joe Mauer” player.

by jibs on Dec 29, 2008 9:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it’s very early, but from the Indians point of view, who do you guys think is available around the #15 spot?

by JP_Frost on Dec 29, 2008 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think I'll probably be available

Though one never knows

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by OldProspects on Dec 29, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

closer?

a couple options at closer in Tootle and Stoffel possibly?

maybe another HS star like Matt Davidson/3B or Jake Marisnick/OF ?
Jacob Turner? Austin Maddox? maybe even Mychal Givens?

possibly Kentrail Davis falling to 15?

Blake Smith or Robbie Shields have a chance to be there as well.
(all of this depends on this season of course)

by bkmhoxx on Dec 29, 2008 10:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Robbie Shields...

is going to be this years Gordon Beckham.

by joegonzo on Dec 29, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Green or Alex White

I’d wager it would be one or the other.

There’s a guy called Donovan, Tate in the draft? Someone call Jennifer Aniston, her ex boyfriend’s found a new gig!

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by Buzz Bissinger on Dec 29, 2008 11:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

My top 10...

would look like this:

1. Steve Strasburg (Nationals)
2. Matt Purke (Mainers)
3. Grant Green (Padres)
4. Alex White (Pirates)
5. Aaron Crow (Orioles)
6. Dustin Ackley (Giants)
7. Donovan Tate (Braves)
8. Tyler Matzek (Reds)
9. Kyle Gibson (Tigers)
10. Robbie Shields (Nationals)

by joegonzo on Dec 29, 2008 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My if the Pirates landed White (who I feel will be better long term) and can manage to sign him, what a difference a year or 2 makes.

Also I don’t know how Ackley falls to 6. If he moves back to CF (like he is supposed to) and can be an above average fielder, I think that makes him the best positional player in the draft. I’m not saying it can’t or wont happen but I’d be surprised if it does.

by jfish26101 on Dec 31, 2008 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Andrew Oliver

He’s having problems with the NCAA over eligibility. If he is suspended, could he quit and become a free agent, or would he just go to an independent league?

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by J-Gao on Dec 29, 2008 6:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Indy league

he’d still have to go into the draft next year.

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by doublestix on Dec 29, 2008 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Take

This is all still so early, but it’s fun too. My take so far:

1. Wash – Strasburg
2. Seat – Green
3. SD – White

4. Pirates will take a college arm or bat, most likely Green or White if they fall. I can see them grabbing Ackley here or maybe Gibson (if the Pirates don’t take Gibson I think he slides down to around 10-15.

5. Orioles – They have a slew of young pitching and taking Wieters and Matusz the last two years, they are not afraid to pay and will likely opt for the top talent remaining. If Tate is still there, I think they grab him, but they also could use a 1B so I don’t think Ackley is a stretch if he’s still around.

6. Giants – have so many young arms they need to get a near ML ready bat and would love to get Ackley or Green should they fall.

7. Braves – Love local kids and would be thrilled if Tate is still around. Otherwise, I’d see them going for a young arm Matzek or Purke.

8. Reds – Were rumored to be interested in Crow last time around, so if they so choose he should be available in this spot.

9. Tigers – Sorely need talent, either college or hs. Outside of Porcello, one of the worst minor league systems, imo, in baseball right now. Should take the best available college bat or top talent remaining.

10. Nats – Having likely taken Strasburg they should take the best remaining talent available. If Tate’s still around, they should nab him. Possibly Givens, or top HS talent that’s still around.

by MightyMoose on Dec 29, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Top Ten Mock

1.1 Washington Nationals: RHSP – Steven Strasburg – San Diego State

Steven Strasburg is going first overall in this draft. Book it. One man by his lonesome may not be able to turn a baseball team’s on-field fortunes around, but it only takes one superstar to revive public interest in a moribund franchise. If nothing else, Strasburg has the kind of arm that makes every fifth day a must-see event. He’s got the oft-cited, but impossible to quantify "it"; Felix Hernandez has it, Halladay and Hamels have it, Sabathia and Santana have it, and, above all the rest, Lincecum has it.

For those unfamiliar and thus unimpressed with the mostly non-baseball, non-factual explanation of Strasburg’s greatness, well, there’s this: he has a fastball that sits between 94 and 97 MPH (and touches, on occasion, 99-100 MPH), a plus-plus slider (sitting 78-84 MPH), a raw but developing changeup, definite plus command, and plus makeup. He also has Nintendo numbers through two seasons at San Diego State with 180 strikeouts, 31 walks, and 79 hits allowed — only 18 of them for extra bases — in 134.1 collegiate innings. He’s a phenomenal prospect, by all accounts a first class citizen and teammate, and a tremendous asset to a rebuilding organization.

1.2 Seattle Mariners: SS – Grant Green – Southern Cal

Seattle may be picking second, but in this particular draft they really might as well be picking first. Steven Strasburg is such a slam dunk at pick number one that it appears the Mariners will have their pick of any eligible amateur ballplayer in the country not named Steven Strasburg. Sure, they’ll do their due diligence and scout Strasburg until they’ve had their fill, but in the end they’ll have to be satisfied with the opportunity to upgrade elsewhere – hardly the worst problem to have on draft day.

As easy as it is to project who will be the first name called, predicting who goes where in the draft gets very difficult very quickly when there is such a tightly bunched group of very good looking, but not cornerstone talents. The players slotted two through seven in this mock are the six of the top seven prospects in the country, but the order in which they come off the board is anybody’s guess. Seattle could wind up with Matthew Purke just as easily as Grant Green and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised. If this draft board was organized in tiers, there would be a Strasburg tier at the top and then one with the guys going two through seven right behind.

The Grant Green as a special Troy Tulowitzki/Evan Longoria hybrid model comp that I’ve heard and read makes little to no sense to me, but that’s in no way an indictment of Green’s abilities. Just because you don’t measure up to Tulowitzki and Longoria doesn’t mean you aren’t a fine player in your own right. However, it is fair to say that Green has a long way to go to reach the level of either prospect. In fact, I believe that Grant Green has more to play for this upcoming season than any other college prospect. With a good spring, he goes second to Seattle. If he struggles – and it’s not out of the question for a guy with a less than inspiring walk rate to have a letdown season as pitchers begin to adjust their approach – then he come slip down the board. Of course, even with an off junior season he would still be the premier middle infield prospect by a large margin and a very desirable prospect.

1.3 San Diego Padres: CF – Dustin Ackley – North Carolina

The Padres have the front office leadership in place to turn things around and build themselves an economically smart, long-term winner, but a quick look at the less than stellar talent throughout the organization leaves one with the overwhelming feeling that it’s going to take a lot of patience to get there. Kevin Towers, Sandy Alderson, and Paul DePodesta are too smart to not find a way to build a self-sustaining winner.

It goes without saying that a lot can change between now and June, but Dustin Ackley and San Diego seem like a splendid match. Chase Headley, Matt Antonelli, Kellen Kulbacki, Chad Huffman, Nick Hundley, Mitch Canham, Allan Dykstra, Logan Forsythe, James Darnell, Blake Tekotte, Sawyer Carroll, Beamer Weems, Danny Payne, Brad Chalk, Craig Cooper…the list goes on and on and on. Much like Hugh Hefner and blondes, it seems like the Padres have a certain type.

The list of player comps for Ackley is literally a mile long. Literally, a mile – I measured. In all honesty, for being as unique a player as he is, there sure are a lot of interesting paths his career could take. Heck, on that list of recent Padres draftees you can find a couple of players with interesting parallels to Ackley. Kulbacki, Payne, and Antonelli all offer similar power/speed combinations in a tweener outfielder package.

Antonelli went .332/.475/.509 with 57 walks to 38 strikeouts his sophomore season, Kulbacki hit a historically awesome .464/.568/.943 with 30 walks to 32 strikeouts his second year, and Payne’s sophomore line looked like .356/.455/.628 with 31 walks and 48 strikeouts. Ackley is coming off a .417/.503/.597 season with 53 walks to 27 strikeouts. These rudimentary numbers don’t even begin to tell the whole story, but they do serve as an interesting set of data points to compare and contrast players with similar skill sets. For the record, Antonelli went 17th overall, Payne went 64th, and Kulbacki went 40th.

Ackley is one of my favorite players in this or any draft because, even though there are a lot of players that you can compare him to, in the end he is still, somehow, someway, a really unique prospect. What position will he play? Where will he fit best in a lineup? Will the power develop? How’s his arm holding up post-Tommy John surgery? How much of his prospect value is tied into the answers of these questions? Maybe his skillset isn’t all that unique (there are plenty of examples of high average, good plate discipline, questionable power bats in this draft), but he certainly offers a weird blend of talents for a guy expected to go so high.

1.4 Pittsburgh Pirates: RHSP – Alex White – North Carolina

Tar Heels go back to back at three and four in the first round. Heck of a program Mike Fox is building down in Chapel Hill.

Pirates first round pitchers this decade: Sean Burnett, John Van Benschoten, Bryan Bullington (first overall), Paul Maholm, Brad Lincoln, and Dan Moskos. Bullington over BJ Upton and Moskos over Matt Wieters stand as two of the most egregious draft blunders in recent memory. I still believe in Lincoln as a prospect and Maholm is at least a league average starter going forward, but…yikes, that’s one awful track record of poor performances and freak injuries.

You’ve got to feel for White just a little bit and not just because there’s a chance he winds up playing in Pittsburgh. Not only is he a distant number two to Steve Strasburg in the best righthanded pitcher in the draft race, but he is also a pretty clear number two righthanded pitching prospect on his own college team. Matt Harvey, White’s studly North Carolina teammate, is considered to be the early favorite for the top spot in the 2010 draft. Alex White – baseball’s Susan Lucci.

1.5 Baltimore Orioles: LHSP – Tyler Matzek – Capistrano Valley HS (California)

If anybody has a more current (and less dorky) reference than the Susan Lucci one above, let me know.

One of the better subplots of the 2009 draft will be the battle to come off the board first between Tyler Matzek and Matthew Purke. Matzek’s above-average fastball and four-pitch mix give him the slightest of slight margins over Purke’s wipeout slider and better by a tick fastball. Plus, it would be fun to see a high school arm compared to Brian Matusz join the real version as a professional. The fact I find that fun is a sure sign I need help…

Matt Weiters, Brian Roberts, Adam Jones, Nick Markakis, Brian Matusz, Chris Tillman, Jake Arrieta, and the fifth pick in the draft. That’s a foundation for something; I don’t know what exactly, but something.

1.6 San Francisco Giants: OF – Donovan Tate – Cartersville HS (Georgia)

The Giants organization is flush with pitching and while that isn’t reason enough to pass on whichever high upside high school lefty will fall, it does give Tate just enough of an edge to be the man called at pick number six. Tate is a special athlete with, let’s count ‘em, a plus arm (clocked at 95 MPH), plus speed (6.3 60 time), plus power potential, and plus makeup. Sounds like he’s doing the Carlos Beltran comps justice, at least at this point in his development.

1.7 Atlanta Braves: LHSP – Matthew Purke – Klein HS (Texas)

Atlanta curses their luck for missing out on hometown boy Tate, but only for a quick minute. The moment they realize that, hey, we are picking seventh in a draft with seven elite talents will surely take the sting off not getting the man they want. Purke is a mighty fine consolation prize and a potential top of the rotation arm with a 1-2 punch of a fastball that has hit 95 MPH and a true strikeout slider.

1.8 Cincinnati Reds: RHSP – Kyle Gibson – Missouri

The Reds are an organization with an intriguing collection of young, semi-established big league talent (especially on the pitching side) and high upside, upper minor league players (especially at the plate – I have position players ranked one through seven on an overall top prospect list in the organization). If Tate falls, he could very well be their man, but, assuming he is off the board, the Reds would be wise to look at a starting pitcher from a program that produces good ones. On top of that, Gibson is a groundball pitcher with a plus slider – an enticing combination for a team that plays 81 games each year at Great American Ballpark.

1.9 Detroit Tigers: RHSP – Aaron Crow – Missouri/Fort Worth

A badly needed injection of talent into a system begging for it, Crow’s signing saga (and his scouting reports) from last draft has been hashed and rehashed and rerehashed time and time again.

With nothing particularly fresh or exciting to say about Crow at this point, I’ll pose a question – are there any recent examples of collegiate coaches, head or assistant, moving up a level and joining professional staffs in some capacity? Take a guy like Tony Vitello for example. Vitello’s title with Missouri is “Assistant Coach/Recruiting Coordinator.” His bio indicates he has a Master’s degree in business (appealing to “new school” types), he was a former collegiate player (appealing to “old school” types), he’s an outstanding recruiter (a skill not perfectly analogous to scouting, but close), and his coaching is directly credited for a lot of the progress made with Max Scherzer. Two questions – 1) do enough of those skills translate to the pro game for him to be a worthwhile candidate for a major league job somewhere, and 2) what kind of job would be the best initial fit for him? Last question, I promise – what kind of job would it take to lure him away from his current post? You can forget about Vitello when answering these questions, he is just an example of a young coach with a solid resume. Alright, last set of questions for real this time – how different are the answers to the above questions if the example is a head coach, and not some “no-name” assistant? I couldn’t see a typical college coach at a big-time university (especially if it was his alma mater) leave for anything less than a managing job at the big league level. Conversely, I couldn’t see a big league club offering their top job to a college coach, no matter how successful. Why not? Would it work? Skillset for the jobs too different? Too risky a move?

1.10 Washington Nationals: RHSP – Tanner Scheppers – Fresno State/St. Paul

It’s a rare and wonderful thing to be afforded the opportunity to secure two-fifths of a future big league rotation in a span of an hour or so. Obviously it isn’t a whole lot of fun to stink so bad that you wind up with the ninth overall pick one year and the first overall pick the year after. And it’s hardly a treat to have a front office staff so inept as to not be able to sign a first round pick, but I digress. The opportunity for the Nationals to land two of the ten best amateurs in the country is one that could truly lay the groundwork for a baseball revival in DC.

This pick is obviously contingent on Scheppers health. Alternate picks that make sense include one of the top prep righties (either Shelby Miller or Jacob Turner) or, one of my personal favorites in the class, Vanderbilt lefty Mike Minor. My fandom requires me to root against the Nationals 19 times a year, but even I would have to be excited if they came out of the draft with either Strasburg/Scheppers or Strasburg/Minor. Having a successful franchise in our nation’s capital would be a real positive for Major League Baseball.

by roboz on Dec 30, 2008 11:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think...

Purke will go before Matzek and Scheppers will blow his arm out and regretting not taking overslot money last year.

by joegonzo on Dec 30, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

Scheppers should’ve taken it.

Now he will go back to college and probably throw his shoulder out trying to impress and get more $

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Dec 30, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Minor?

Is he even eligible, if he is, where’d he slot in? In the teens?

by Ralpho316 on Dec 30, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Around...

20. He would be a good pick for someone like the Cubs.

by joegonzo on Dec 30, 2008 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Crow

I think people are starting to underestimate how good he really is.

I guess he’s lost the shine.

Also, I think any team that drafts him will have a good shot at signing him for a reasonable price. I highly doubt Crow can afford to hold out a 2nd straight year.

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Dec 30, 2008 10:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good post

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Jan 1, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh the awful awful things I would do to get Strasburg to fall to #3...

"If I wasn't Bob Dylan, I'd probably think that Bob Dylan has a lot of answers myself." - Bob Dylan

by JollyWaffle on Jan 2, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Strasburg isn't a lock for #1 overall

An injury, a poor season, a huge Boras-advised bonus demand or some bad off-the-field incident could cause his stock to drop. A lot could happen over the next five months.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Jan 4, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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