Community Prospect List: #107
by the pinstripes on Dec 19, 2008 10:03 AM EST
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After 352 votes the winner of the poll is Matt Moore with 16% of the vote. David Huff(4%), Jason Castro(3%), Jemile Weeks(3%) will be removed from the poll because they fell below the 5% cutoff. Julio Teheran, Rafael Rodriguez, Michael Taylor & Chris Coghlan will be added to the poll.
NOTE: I went back to the 5% cutoff for this poll. KBR may change it back for his.
1. MATT WIETERS - C (Baltimore)
2. DAVID PRICE - SP (Tampa Bay)
3. JASON HEYWARD - OF (Atlanta)
4. TRAVIS SNIDER - OF (Toronto)
5. MADISON BUMGARNER - SP (San Francisco)
6. COLBY RASMUS - OF (St. Louis)
7. CAMERON MAYBIN - OF (Florida)
8. TREVOR CAHILL - SP (Oakland)
9. NEFTALI FELIZ - SP (Texas)
10. MATT LAPORTA - 1B/OF/DH (Cleveland)
11. MIKE MOUSTAKAS - 3B (Kansas City)
12. TIM ALDERSON - SP (San Francisco)
13. PEDRO ALVAREZ - 3B (Pittsburgh)
14. RICK PORCELLO - SP (Detroit)
15. DEXTER FOWLER - OF (Colorado)
16. BRETT ANDERSON - SP (Oakland)*
17. DEREK HOLLAND - SP (Texas)
18. ANDREW McCUTCHEN - OF (Pittsburgh)
19. BUSTER POSEY - C (San Francisco)
20. CHRIS TILLMAN - SP (Baltimore)
21. LARS ANDERSON - 1B (Boston)
22. JUSTIN SMOAK - 1B (Texas)
23. THOMAS HANSON - SP (Atlanta)
24. ELVIS ANDRUS - SS (Texas)
25. ANGEL VILLALONA - 1B (San Francisco)
26. JHOULYS CHACIN - SP (Colorado)
27. BRIAN MATUSZ - SP (Baltimore)
28. ERIC HOSMER - 1B (Kansas City)
29. TIM BECKHAM - SS (Tampa Bay)
30. MAX RAMIREZ - C/1B (Texas)
31. JARROD PARKER - SP (Arizona)
32. MICHAEL STANTON - OF (Florida)
33. MAT GAMEL - 3B (Milwaukee)
34. JESUS MONTERO - C (New York-AL)
35. BRETT WALLACE - 3B (St. Louis)
36. JORDAN SCHAFER - OF (Atlanta)
37. WADE DAVIS - SP (Tampa Bay)
38. LOGAN MORRISON - 1B (Florida)
39. CARLOS SANTANA - C (Cleveland)
40. FERNANDO MARTINEZ - OF (New York-NL)
41. JAMES McDONALD - SP (Los Angeles-NL)
42. JEREMY HELLICKSON - SP (Tampa Bay)
43. JOSH VITTERS - 3B (Chicago-NL)
44. YONDER ALONSO - 1B (Cincinnati)
45. TAYLOR TEAGARDEN - C (Texas)
46. FREDDIE FREEMAN - 1B (Atlanta)
47. GORDON BECKHAM - SS (Chicago-AL)
48. BRETT CECIL - SP (Toronto)
49. ALCIDES ESCOBAR - SS (Milwaukee)
50. JORDAN ZIMMERMANN - SP (Washington)
51. CHRIS CARTER - 1B/DH (Oakland)
52. CARLOS TRIUNFEL - SS (Seattle)
53. AUSTIN JACKSON - OF (New York-AL)
54. BEN REVERE - OF (Minnesota)
55. MICHAEL BOWDEN - SP (Boston)
56. TYLER FLOWERS - C (Atlanta)
57. ADRIAN CARDENAS - SS (Oakland)
58. REID BRIGNAC - SS (Tampa Bay)
59. JAKE ARRIETA - SP (Baltimore)
60. JORDAN WALDEN - SP (Los Angeles-AL)
61. MICHAEL MAIN - SP (Texas)
62. WILMER FLORES - SS (New York-NL)
63. MATT DOMINGUEZ - 3B (Florida)
64. MICHAEL SAUNDERS - OF (Seattle)
65. DESMOND JENNINGS - OF (Tampa Bay)
66. CARLOS CARRASCO - SP (Philadelphia)
67. AARON CUNNINGHAM - OF (Oakland)
68. J.P. ARENCIBIA - C (Toronto)
69. GIO GONZALEZ - SP (Oakland)
70. PHILLIPPE AUMONT - SP (Seattle)
71. JEFF SAMARDZIJA - SP/RP (Chicago-NL)
72. MICHAEL INOA - SP (Oakland)
73. AARON HICKS - OF (Minnesota)
74. JEREMY JEFFRESS - SP (Milwaukee)
75. ANGEL SALOME - C (Milwaukee)
76. DANIEL CORTES - SP (Kansas City)
77. GREG HALMAN - OF (Seattle)
78. JACOB McGEE - SP/RP (Tampa Bay)
79. KYLE BLANKS - 1B (San Diego)
80. MARTIN PEREZ - SP (Texas)
81. JULIO BORBON - OF (Texas)
82. NICHOLAS WEGLARZ - OF (Cleveland)
83. JAMES SIMMONS - SP (Oakland)
84. GORKYS HERNANDEZ - OF (Atlanta)
85. JOSE TABATA - OF (Pittsburgh)
86. JASON DONALD - SS (Philadelphia)
87. KYLE SKIPWORTH - C (Florida)
88. DARYL JONES - OF (St. Louis)
89. AARON POREDA - SP (Chicago-AL)
90. MICHAEL BURGESS - OF (Washington)
91. CHRIS PEREZ - RP (St. Louis)
92. NEFTALI SOTO - 3B (Cincinnati)
93. JONATHAN NIESE - SP (New York-NL)
94. TODD FRAZIER - SS/3B (Cincinnati)
95. ENGEL BELTRE - OF (Texas)
96. ADAM MILLER - SP (Cleveland)
97. VINCENT MAZZARO - SP (Oakland)
98. NICK ADENHART - SP (Los Angeles-AL)
99. BEAU MILLS - 1B (Cleveland)
100. CHRISTOPHER MARRERO - OF (Washington)
101. DELLIN BETANCES - SP (New York-AL)
102. IVAN DEJESUS - 2B (Los Angeles-NL)
103. HANK CONGER - (Los Angeles-AL)
104. COLE ROHRBOUGH - SP (Atlanta)
105. DANNY DUFFY - SP (Kansas City)
106. MATT MOORE - SP (Tampa Bay)
CANDIDATES - Nick Noonan, Sean Doolittle, Brad Holt, Kila Ka'aihue, Ethan Martin, David Cooper, Brandon Erbe, Josh Reddick, Julio Teheran, Rafael Rodriguez, Michael Taylor & Chris Coghlan
TESTERS - Jose Ceda(93-0%), Nick Barnese(96-2%), Zach McAllister(97-0%), Sean West(99-2%), Dominic Brown(99-2%), Ryan Tucker(100-3%), Blake Beavan(102-5%), Will Inman(102-4%), Adam Moore(103-3%), Yorman Rodriguez(103-3%) & Cedric Hunter(103-1%), Tim Melville(104-4%), Andrew Lambo(104-4%), Brett Lawrie(104-5%), Jeff Niemann(105-5%), Scott Elbert(105-5%), Jefry Marte(105-2%) & Luke Hughes(105-1%), David Huff(106-4%), Jason Castro(106-3%), Jemile Weeks(106-3%)
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Ethan Martin
The heir to the Billingsley/Kershaw mantle.
Or maybe not, but hey, we are in the hundreds.
by aCone419 on Dec 19, 2008 10:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
MaxRam over TnT?
Interesting list, overall… some interesting rankings – the sTRangers refuse to give up Taylor Teagarden for anything short of the next Nolan Ryan while Max Ramirez could be had for the next Jamie Moyer… yet, Max ranks 15 places higher than Tea…
Interesting.
If at first you don't succeed, try the outfield! -- Ed
by eglooney on Dec 19, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stats
This list is pretty much based on hitting stats and ARL. Most people voting here think they know better than teams or scouts when it comes to the non-tangibles.
by DrunkIrish on Dec 19, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
michael taylor
if taylor is anywhere near that good in AA in 2009, he’s a top 10 overall prospect. coghlan doesn’t have that upside, and even if martin does, he’d still be 2 years away from contributing in the majors after making the 2010 list.
it’s gotta be taylor.
When they should be sacrifice bunting, they are buying effeminate designer jeans. When they should be fouling off pitches, they are masturbating. Always, they are masturbating.
by variablesdont on Dec 19, 2008 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kila's line
blows that out of the water and it was done in AA and AAA. Much better plate discipline, he’s MLB ready and the power looks like it could be for real.
by slurve on Dec 19, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
a 24 year old first baseman in the texas and pacific coast leagues outhit a 22 year old left fielder in the SAL and FSL.
i’m not a believer in kila, but he’s a legitimate challenger to taylor, at this point.
When they should be sacrifice bunting, they are buying effeminate designer jeans. When they should be fouling off pitches, they are masturbating. Always, they are masturbating.
by variablesdont on Dec 19, 2008 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got plate discipline
at a high level. I’m NOT saying he’s as good as Ryan Howard, but compare their respective lines in each of their 24 y.o. seasons. It’s very possible to have that progression curve and be a successful MLB’er.
by slurve on Dec 19, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i completely agree, but
like with ryan howard, until they actually prove they can do it at the major league level, it’s never gonna be taken as a given, nor are they gonna be given the benefit of the doubt.
When they should be sacrifice bunting, they are buying effeminate designer jeans. When they should be fouling off pitches, they are masturbating. Always, they are masturbating.
by variablesdont on Dec 19, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well that goes
for any prospect – more so for those in the lower levels
by slurve on Dec 19, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well you have to consider positional difference here
If Coghlan came close to that OPS regularily with his good defense at 2B, he would without a doubt be be near the top of most propsect lists. Taylor has to put up better offensive numbers in LF to be as valuable as Coghlan. Taylor is following the developmental path as Coghlan right now considering age and level, but I will almost always take the most advanced player in this situation. Also, Coghlan has a better BB/K ratio at AA, which puts him just a bit more ahead than Taylor.
by tdot mariner fan on Dec 19, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
taylor is a 6'6" behemouth
he is legitimately a massive piece of humanity. he’s kinda limber, as well, and he has a great arm in LF.
i’ve come around on coghlan. he’s a nice player, but while positional adjustments are useful, a guy with 1.000 OPS upside (and upside is still very much a relevant term for taylor, considering he had 3x as many doubles as homeruns in the FSL, while playing his home games in a cavernous park) is more valuable regardless of what position he plays.
When they should be sacrifice bunting, they are buying effeminate designer jeans. When they should be fouling off pitches, they are masturbating. Always, they are masturbating.
by variablesdont on Dec 19, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Martin for me too
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 19, 2008 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coghlan
then Kila (very close between them) then Taylor then Holt/Martin (interchangeable), all are in my Top 100
by Navi's_Navy on Dec 19, 2008 11:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Teheran vs. Inoa
For someone who is familiar with the scouts’ views, what’s the difference between these two guys besides signing bonus?
by parish on Dec 19, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who actually would know?
They have pitched like an 11 combined innings. I think they are similar but Inoa has the “shiny new toy” effect going and the big bonus. Of course money and talent are never parallel, just ask the Orioles.
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by strums on Dec 19, 2008 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Niemann
God, I’m a broken record.
by demondeaconsbaseball on Dec 19, 2008 5:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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