Engel Beltre
I took some flack for giving Engel Beltre a Grade C last year, but I don’t really regret the decision. His rookie ball performance was highly erratic: horrible before the trade that sent him from
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Wow....
Waxing poetic are we??
Nice write up… anxiously waiting for the rest
by laxtonto on Dec 18, 2008 10:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good analysis
Over at LoneStarBall, Beltre is their #11 ranked prospect. I personally would have him down around 15. He has alot of tools but doesn’t seem to excell in any one area. Coachability is also a concern. He was benched a few times this past season due to his strikezone judgement. I think he needs to repeat the MWL.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 18, 2008 10:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i like the compromise
and good analysis
by blalock84 on Dec 18, 2008 11:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Classic Sickels with the meteorology stuff.
by rdf8585 on Dec 18, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Thanks. People sometimes ask what makes my book different than the Baseball America book. It is this kind of personalized thing that I try to do….they can’t because of their format, but I can.
by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2008 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should check out Neko Case’s forthcoming record… It’s all about tornadoes.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 19, 2008 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was initially upset about the C grade
but now I’m starting to think that a B grade might be a bit too high for Beltre. That miserable BB total just scares me too much.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 18, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Neat take.
I’m hoping for a good F5 in about 2-3 years.
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by t ball on Dec 19, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Quick Question
I tried google searching it but to no avail…
What are the Seven Skills? I consider myself pretty well versed in baseball ,erm, stuff, and am quite surprised I’ve never heard this term before.
Thanks
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Dec 19, 2008 12:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Neither Have I///
Five tools plus plate discipline and base running instincts?
by Topgun22 on Dec 19, 2008 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seven Skills
This is something that John has refined out from the standard 5 tool idea:
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2007/2/15/15013/7071
"So's your mom"-David Sloane
by gatling on Dec 19, 2008 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Player A:
33 BB in his first 794 ABs (starting at 17 years old).
Engel:
37 BB in his first 813 ABs (starting at 17 years old).
Player A was in full-season A at 17; Engel started out in rookie league/GCL.
Engel’s also slugging a lot better.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 19, 2008 10:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
OK. I'll bite.
Who is player A?
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 19, 2008 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge. I keep thinking of Engel’s offensive development the same way.
800 ABs in the same league around the same age has to be somewhat telling.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 19, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The aggressive style at the plate
certainly makes one think of Pudge, but it seems like their physique is so different I have a hard time with that comp. I doubt Beltre ever gets a league average or above walk rate, and that’s more of a problem with an outfielder than a catcher. He’ll have to be nothing less than excellent in every other part of his game to make up for that.
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by t ball on Dec 19, 2008 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great comment
I think you just convinced me to buy the book.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
by trza on Dec 19, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs














