Community Prospect List: #106
by the pinstripes on Dec 18, 2008 10:21 AM EST
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After the 150 vote runoff the winner of the poll is Danny Duffy with 54% of the vote. Jeff Niemann(5%), Scott Elbert(5%), Jefry Marte(2%) & Luke Hughes(1%) will be removed from the poll because they fell below the 7% cutoff. David Huff, Jemile Weeks, David Cooper, Brandon Erbe & Josh Reddick will be added to the poll.
1. MATT WIETERS - C (Baltimore)
2. DAVID PRICE - SP (Tampa Bay)
3. JASON HEYWARD - OF (Atlanta)
4. TRAVIS SNIDER - OF (Toronto)
5. MADISON BUMGARNER - SP (San Francisco)
6. COLBY RASMUS - OF (St. Louis)
7. CAMERON MAYBIN - OF (Florida)
8. TREVOR CAHILL - SP (Oakland)
9. NEFTALI FELIZ - SP (Texas)
10. MATT LAPORTA - 1B/OF/DH (Cleveland)
11. MIKE MOUSTAKAS - 3B (Kansas City)
12. TIM ALDERSON - SP (San Francisco)
13. PEDRO ALVAREZ - 3B (Pittsburgh)
14. RICK PORCELLO - SP (Detroit)
15. DEXTER FOWLER - OF (Colorado)
16. BRETT ANDERSON - SP (Oakland)*
17. DEREK HOLLAND - SP (Texas)
18. ANDREW McCUTCHEN - OF (Pittsburgh)
19. BUSTER POSEY - C (San Francisco)
20. CHRIS TILLMAN - SP (Baltimore)
21. LARS ANDERSON - 1B (Boston)
22. JUSTIN SMOAK - 1B (Texas)
23. THOMAS HANSON - SP (Atlanta)
24. ELVIS ANDRUS - SS (Texas)
25. ANGEL VILLALONA - 1B (San Francisco)
26. JHOULYS CHACIN - SP (Colorado)
27. BRIAN MATUSZ - SP (Baltimore)
28. ERIC HOSMER - 1B (Kansas City)
29. TIM BECKHAM - SS (Tampa Bay)
30. MAX RAMIREZ - C/1B (Texas)
31. JARROD PARKER - SP (Arizona)
32. MICHAEL STANTON - OF (Florida)
33. MAT GAMEL - 3B (Milwaukee)
34. JESUS MONTERO - C (New York-AL)
35. BRETT WALLACE - 3B (St. Louis)
36. JORDAN SCHAFER - OF (Atlanta)
37. WADE DAVIS - SP (Tampa Bay)
38. LOGAN MORRISON - 1B (Florida)
39. CARLOS SANTANA - C (Cleveland)
40. FERNANDO MARTINEZ - OF (New York-NL)
41. JAMES McDONALD - SP (Los Angeles-NL)
42. JEREMY HELLICKSON - SP (Tampa Bay)
43. JOSH VITTERS - 3B (Chicago-NL)
44. YONDER ALONSO - 1B (Cincinnati)
45. TAYLOR TEAGARDEN - C (Texas)
46. FREDDIE FREEMAN - 1B (Atlanta)
47. GORDON BECKHAM - SS (Chicago-AL)
48. BRETT CECIL - SP (Toronto)
49. ALCIDES ESCOBAR - SS (Milwaukee)
50. JORDAN ZIMMERMANN - SP (Washington)
51. CHRIS CARTER - 1B/DH (Oakland)
52. CARLOS TRIUNFEL - SS (Seattle)
53. AUSTIN JACKSON - OF (New York-AL)
54. BEN REVERE - OF (Minnesota)
55. MICHAEL BOWDEN - SP (Boston)
56. TYLER FLOWERS - C (Atlanta)
57. ADRIAN CARDENAS - SS (Oakland)
58. REID BRIGNAC - SS (Tampa Bay)
59. JAKE ARRIETA - SP (Baltimore)
60. JORDAN WALDEN - SP (Los Angeles-AL)
61. MICHAEL MAIN - SP (Texas)
62. WILMER FLORES - SS (New York-NL)
63. MATT DOMINGUEZ - 3B (Florida)
64. MICHAEL SAUNDERS - OF (Seattle)
65. DESMOND JENNINGS - OF (Tampa Bay)
66. CARLOS CARRASCO - SP (Philadelphia)
67. AARON CUNNINGHAM - OF (Oakland)
68. J.P. ARENCIBIA - C (Toronto)
69. GIO GONZALEZ - SP (Oakland)
70. PHILLIPPE AUMONT - SP (Seattle)
71. JEFF SAMARDZIJA - SP/RP (Chicago-NL)
72. MICHAEL INOA - SP (Oakland)
73. AARON HICKS - OF (Minnesota)
74. JEREMY JEFFRESS - SP (Milwaukee)
75. ANGEL SALOME - C (Milwaukee)
76. DANIEL CORTES - SP (Kansas City)
77. GREG HALMAN - OF (Seattle)
78. JACOB McGEE - SP/RP (Tampa Bay)
79. KYLE BLANKS - 1B (San Diego)
80. MARTIN PEREZ - SP (Texas)
81. JULIO BORBON - OF (Texas)
82. NICHOLAS WEGLARZ - OF (Cleveland)
83. JAMES SIMMONS - SP (Oakland)
84. GORKYS HERNANDEZ - OF (Atlanta)
85. JOSE TABATA - OF (Pittsburgh)
86. JASON DONALD - SS (Philadelphia)
87. KYLE SKIPWORTH - C (Florida)
88. DARYL JONES - OF (St. Louis)
89. AARON POREDA - SP (Chicago-AL)
90. MICHAEL BURGESS - OF (Washington)
91. CHRIS PEREZ - RP (St. Louis)
92. NEFTALI SOTO - 3B (Cincinnati)
93. JONATHAN NIESE - SP (New York-NL)
94. TODD FRAZIER - SS/3B (Cincinnati)
95. ENGEL BELTRE - OF (Texas)
96. ADAM MILLER - SP (Cleveland)
97. VINCENT MAZZARO - SP (Oakland)
98. NICK ADENHART - SP (Los Angeles-AL)
99. BEAU MILLS - 1B (Cleveland)
100. CHRISTOPHER MARRERO - OF (Washington)
101. DELLIN BETANCES - SP (New York-AL)
102. IVAN DEJESUS - 2B (Los Angeles-NL)
103. HANK CONGER - (Los Angeles-AL)
104. COLE ROHRBOUGH - SP (Atlanta)
105. DANNY DUFFY - SP (Kansas City)
CANDIDATES - Matt Moore, Nick Noonan, Sean Doolittle, Jason Castro, Brad Holt, Kila Ka'aihue, Ethan Martin, David Huff, Jemile Weeks, David Cooper, Brandon Erbe & Josh Reddick
TESTERS - Jose Ceda(93-0%), Nick Barnese(96-2%), Zach McAllister(97-0%), Sean West(99-2%), Dominic Brown(99-2%), Ryan Tucker(100-3%), Julio Teheran(102-5%), Rafael Rodriguez(102-4%), Blake Beavan(102-5%), Will Inman(102-4%), Adam Moore(103-3%), Yorman Rodriguez(103-3%) & Cedric Hunter(103-1%), Michael Taylor(104-5%), Chris Coghlan(104-5%), Tim Melville(104-4%), Andrew Lambo(104-4%), Brett Lawrie(104-5%), Jeff Niemann(105-5%), Scott Elbert(105-5%), Jefry Marte(105-2%) & Luke Hughes(105-1%)
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Ethan Martin
He has no professional body of work at this point, but the Dodgers have definitely proven they know what they are doing when drafting HS pitchers. Even if he fails at SP, he could then just become their best 3B prospect!
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.
by Savoy on Dec 18, 2008 10:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Old timer
I want to see your top-100 list!
by siddfynch on Dec 18, 2008 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im working on mine
Good to see this post becuase I was wondering if you were still taking them.
by casejud on Dec 19, 2008 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
92-94 mph fastball that hits 96, a power curveball, and a good changeup. Excellent athlete. Excellent organization for guys like him.
by aCone419 on Dec 18, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kila
he mashed
I agree - Noonan is as valuable as a dead horse… and he too should be beaten by some dude in a top hat who looks like he’s holding his junk.
by cool hand Charlie on Dec 18, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
kila kila kila
Who's world is it? It's yours.
by BlackOps on Dec 18, 2008 11:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Question about testers
Do we really need to see guys who garnered 2% of less within the past 10 rounds? From the looks of it, Ceda and McCallister, West, and Brown may all come up next, but each failed pretty miserably back in polls 97-99.
I’d really like to see some complements to all these low-minors players or the injured guys with previously high ceilings. Can we get some unexciting AAA players who project to be major league regulars and are just not so impressive ARL? In reality, some of these guys will be good contributors and have no real blemish except that they don’t have HOFer ceilings.
Guys like Niemann or Kila qualify for this. So would Eric Hurley, David Freese, Allen Craig, etc. These are all guys that are not AAA retreads and certainly have some MLB upside.
I guess my request is to the voters as much as the poll managers. The fascination with guys like Lawrie, Teheran, or Melville seems a little much when guys with bona-fide MLB talent are still out there, and right on the cusp of the major leagues.
by siddfynch on Dec 18, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
so what your asking for is...
a Micah Hoffpauir tester?
by uwbadger on Dec 18, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Castro
He may have been a reach, but his winter league numbers, along with his already solid rep as a defensive receiver and game caller, lead me to believe he is being underrated around here. he needs to be on the list soon, and bud norris should be a tester by now.
the astros deserve their horrendous rep among prospect junkies, but system bias is an ugly thing.
by clark on Dec 18, 2008 11:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Houston's farm is not even that bad anymore...
The Astros had one of the better drafts this past year, and a added a number of guys who should garner consideration for this list: Castro, Brian Bogusevic, Jordan Lyles, and Chris Johnson. Next season Ross Seaton could also compete for a top 100 spot.
by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 18, 2008 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coghlan
Plus Defense at 2B. Plus speed. Plus plate discipline. Nothing not to like.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on Dec 18, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
REDDICK! REDDICK!
Then Maybe some Holt.
by tannerman17 on Dec 18, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Erbe!
He has tons of potential to become a great pitcher!
by Orioles77 on Dec 18, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That a Baby!
Erbe is going to be a stud. Projectable frame, solid stuff, succeeded in the Carolina league as a 20 year old. He gets a bad rap for having poor control, and while needs to iron out his fastball command, his walk rate really wasn’t that bad this year- 3 BB/9. He struck out more than a batter an inning, and held opponents to a .216 average against. The only thing separating him from getting national media attention is his high ERA- 4.30, which was brought on because of a high HR rate, he gave up 21 in 150.2 IP. I look for him to move to AA next year, play the whole year there as a 21 year old, improve his FB command, therby dramatically decreasing his HR rate and ERA.
by Birdfan01 on Dec 18, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of the issue is that he was so horrible last year
If his 2007 hadn’t been rotten, he would be a shoo-in.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Dec 18, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Moore?
Not sure what the hold up is here. Love this guy. Stuff is excellent and while I’m a bit of a skeptic with short-season stats, they’re pretty solid as well. It all adds up into a nice package.
Castro or Noonan next for me out of the available candidates, I think. But we’ll see.
by mrkupe on Dec 18, 2008 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Noonan
ahead of Coghlan? I’m very curious why.
"So's your mom"-David Sloane
by gatling on Dec 18, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He did say "out of the available candidates"
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 18, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I said, "available candidates"
I meant out of the guys who I could put a vote in for at this point.
But if you wanted to make an argument for Noonan over Coghlan . . .Noonan’s tools are better. He’s faster and he’ll probably have better power. I’m not really concerned about plate discipline statistics out of teenagers in full season ball unless they’re just obscenely awful in some way, and Noonan’s aren’t. Obviously Coghlan has better skills but considered the age differential, you’d expect that.
It’s an interesting comparison and a pretty close one, I think.
by mrkupe on Dec 18, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd characterize Noonan's plate discipline as "obscenely awful"
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by PaulThomas on Dec 19, 2008 2:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Naw
Certainly not good, as it’s his major weakness. But he wasn’t King anywhere close to once per game, and he produced just fine for his age/position/competition level regardless.
I should note, I’m not trying to say Noonan is an uber-prospect. But then again this isn’t prospect #6, it’s prospect #106. I think this guy has the stuff to be a major league regular second baseman, and a pretty good one at that. If he still can’t figure out how to work the strike zone when he’s 22, call me. Until then, I like the overall package.
You can find plenty of guys in the majors who strike out a bunch but do things with the ball when they connect. Guys who make plenty of contact but do nothing with it are Neifi Perez.
by mrkupe on Dec 19, 2008 3:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Moore had two straight seasons in rookie ball
We will learn more from him after a full season in the minors.
by therayspartyleader on Dec 18, 2008 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coghlin
Founder of the Johnny Giavotella fan club.
by doublestix on Dec 18, 2008 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stubbs should at least be a tester
He’s going to be a solid MLB contributor.
by Snake the Jake on Dec 18, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, he should be on the tester list
another guy getting close to the majors, but suffering from prospect fatigue
by siddfynch on Dec 18, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Castro
He’s an above-average hitter, who is patient, and has a quick swing. His power potential is average, maybe a little above. Goldstein says he has a plus arm – I think it’s a tick above-average. He has some problems with his footwork, but is a good receiver, and is very athletic for a catcher. He also has the ability to steal a bag. Castro played in short season A, and the Hawaii winter league (really fall) combining for .296 BA .438 OBP .420 SLG% .858 OPS in 216 at-bats. Castro’s XBH% was only 30% but, that is not a bad number – just not great – and his on base numbers were great. He struck out 54 times compared to 38 walks. Those are just his pro numbers. He also played for Stanford during the College World Series, and came up in the clutch in a number of instances for them – that’s when I was sold on Castro.
I think those numbers, particularly the OBP are top 100 numbers, and I think he has clearly established himself as one of the best prospects from the 2008 draft, after being immediately looked at as an overdraft. I also do not think you can undervalue what a good catcher can add to his team, especially the Astros, who have lacked one who can hit for a long time.
For those of you asking about his ETA, "Watch," Acta said, "Castro could be ready for the majors by the end of the season." That is a quote from Nationals manager Manny Acta during the winter meetings.
by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 18, 2008 6:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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