Community Prospect List: #83
by the pinstripes on Dec 1, 2008 8:45 PM EST
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After 327 votes the winner is Nicholas Weglarz with 13% of the vote. Neftali Soto(6%), Adam Miller(4%), Christopher Marrero(3%) & Dellin Betances(2%) will be removed from the poll as they failed to achieve at least 7% of the vote. Kyle Skipworth, Kila Ka'Aihue, Ivan DeJesus, Jonathan Niese & Andrew Lambo will be added to the poll.
1. MATT WIETERS - C (Baltimore)
2. DAVID PRICE - SP (Tampa Bay)
3. JASON HEYWARD - OF (Atlanta)
4. TRAVIS SNIDER - OF (Toronto)
5. MADISON BUMGARNER - SP (San Francisco)
6. COLBY RASMUS - OF (St. Louis)
7. CAMERON MAYBIN - OF (Florida)
8. TREVOR CAHILL - SP (Oakland)
9. NEFTALI FELIZ - SP (Texas)
10. MATT LAPORTA - 1B/OF/DH (Cleveland)
11. MIKE MOUSTAKAS - 3B (Kansas City)
12. TIM ALDERSON - SP (San Francisco)
13. PEDRO ALVAREZ - 3B (Pittsburgh)
14. RICK PORCELLO - SP (Detroit)
15. DEXTER FOWLER - OF (Colorado)
16. BRETT ANDERSON - SP (Oakland)*
17. DEREK HOLLAND - SP (Texas)
18. ANDREW McCUTCHEN - OF (Pittsburgh)
19. BUSTER POSEY - C (San Francisco)
20. CHRIS TILLMAN - SP (Baltimore)
21. LARS ANDERSON - 1B (Boston)
22. JUSTIN SMOAK - 1B (Texas)
23. THOMAS HANSON - SP (Atlanta)
24. ELVIS ANDRUS - SS (Texas)
25. ANGEL VILLALONA - 1B (San Francisco)
26. JHOULYS CHACIN - SP (Colorado)
27. BRIAN MATUSZ - SP (Baltimore)
28. ERIC HOSMER - 1B (Kansas City)
29. TIM BECKHAM - SS (Tampa Bay)
30. MAX RAMIREZ - C/1B (Texas)
31. JARROD PARKER - SP (Arizona)
32. MICHAEL STANTON - OF (Florida)
33. MAT GAMEL - 3B (Milwaukee)
34. JESUS MONTERO - C (New York-AL)
35. BRETT WALLACE - 3B (St. Louis)
36. JORDAN SCHAFER - OF (Atlanta)
37. WADE DAVIS - SP (Tampa Bay)
38. LOGAN MORRISON - 1B (Florida)
39. CARLOS SANTANA - C (Cleveland)
40. FERNANDO MARTINEZ - OF (New York-NL)
41. JAMES McDONALD - SP (Los Angeles-NL)
42. JEREMY HELLICKSON - SP (Tampa Bay)
43. JOSH VITTERS - 3B (Chicago-NL)
44. YONDER ALONSO - 1B (Cincinnati)
45. TAYLOR TEAGARDEN - C (Texas)
46. FREDDIE FREEMAN - 1B (Atlanta)
47. GORDON BECKHAM - SS (Chicago-AL)
48. BRETT CECIL - SP (Toronto)
49. ALCIDES ESCOBAR - SS (Milwaukee)
50. JORDAN ZIMMERMANN - SP (Washington)
51. CHRIS CARTER - 1B/DH (Oakland)
52. CARLOS TRIUNFEL - SS (Seattle)
53. AUSTIN JACKSON - OF (New York-AL)
54. BEN REVERE - OF (Minnesota)
55. MICHAEL BOWDEN - SP (Boston)
56. TYLER FLOWERS - C (Atlanta)
57. ADRIAN CARDENAS - SS (Oakland)
58. REID BRIGNAC - SS (Tampa Bay)
59. JAKE ARRIETA - SP (Baltimore)
60. JORDAN WALDEN - SP (Los Angeles-AL)
61. MICHAEL MAIN - SP (Texas)
62. WILMER FLORES - SS (New York-NL)
63. MATT DOMINGUEZ - 3B (Florida)
64. MICHAEL SAUNDERS - OF (Seattle)
65. DESMOND JENNINGS - OF (Tampa Bay)
66. CARLOS CARRASCO - SP (Philadelphia)
67. AARON CUNNINGHAM - OF (Oakland)
68. J.P. ARENCIBIA - C (Toronto)
69. GIO GONZALEZ - SP (Oakland)
70. PHILLIPPE AUMONT - SP (Seattle)
71. JEFF SAMARDZIJA - SP/RP (Chicago-NL)
72. MICHAEL INOA - SP (Oakland)
73. AARON HICKS - OF (Minnesota)
74. JEREMY JEFFRESS - SP (Milwaukee)
75. ANGEL SALOME - C (Milwaukee)
76. DANIEL CORTES - SP (Kansas City)
77. GREG HALMAN - OF (Seattle)
78. JACOB McGEE - SP/RP (Tampa Bay)
79. KYLE BLANKS - 1B (San Diego)
80. MARTIN PEREZ - SP (Texas)
81. JULIO BORBON - OF (Texas)
82. NICHOLAS WEGLARZ - OF (Cleveland)
CANDIDATES - Jose Tabata, Gorkys Hernandez, Daryl Jones, Jason Donald, James Simmons, Nick Noonan, Michael Burgess, Kyle Skipworth, Kila Ka'Aihue, Ivan DeJesus, Jonathan Niese & Andrew Lambo
TESTERS - David Cooper(76-2%), Michael Taylor(77-1%), Matt Moore(79-2%), Brad Holt(79-1%), Todd Frazier(80-3%), Beau Mills(80-4%), Scott Elbert(80-2%), Vincent Mazzaro(80-3%), Chris Perez(81-5%), Aaron Poreda(81-5%), Chris Coghlan(81-3%), Jeff Niemann(81-2%), Neftali Soto(6%), Adam Miller(4%), Christopher Marrero(3%) & Dellin Betances(2%)
NOTE: I have listed by each tester the last time they were on a poll and the percentage of votes they obtained. This should help us with selecting who should be placed back on the poll etc
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Michael Burgess
gets my vote.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Dec 1, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I know there are questions but Im a sucker for bat speed and power potential. Glad to see lambo getting a chance though. He’s a good hitter. I think Burgess will have more power and be a better all around player though.
Thought about Jason Donald but at this time I try to think that with all things being equal would I trade one player for another and I wouldn’t deal Burgess for Donald.
by casejud on Dec 2, 2008 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Top 3
James Simmons
Jose Tabata
Kyle Skipworth
by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 1, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
jason donald
4th in the eastern league in batting average…as a SS
3rd in the eastern league in OPS…as a SS
1st in batting average on team USA in the olympics…as a SS
1st in OBP on team USA in the olympics…as a SS
2nd in arizona fall league in batting average…as a SS
2nd in arizona fall league in OPS…as a SS
2008 paul owens award winner (best performance as a position player in the phillies minor league system)
2008 darnell stenson award winner (best sportsmanship in the arizona fall league)
i’m gonna dougdirt this until he gets on, dude seriously needs to get on.
When they should be sacrifice bunting, they are buying effeminate designer jeans. When they should be fouling off pitches, they are masturbating. Always, they are masturbating.
by variablesdont on Dec 1, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would have
gone Poreda, but Donald gets my vote as he was next…
by slurve on Dec 1, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Donald, Simmons and Poreda
seem so much higher than everybody else on the field – they’ve all had significant success in AA and could start and succeed in the majors as soon as next year and have pretty decent ceilings
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by OldProspects on Dec 1, 2008 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The sportsmanship
is what got my vote.
by METSMETSMETS on Dec 1, 2008 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Neftali Soto
Kid just can flat out rake.
by dougdirt on Dec 1, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus for me. Even at 2B his offense is pretty valuable.
Simmons could be the 7th A’s prospect to get elected that I’ve never voted for
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 1, 2008 9:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
?
What offense? His fluky 2008 BA?
by METSMETSMETS on Dec 1, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His luck-adjusted OBP is still almost .400
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by PaulThomas on Dec 2, 2008 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kaaihue
why the hell not? If he’s really for real he is a top 10-20 talent for sure.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
by wildthang on Dec 1, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For real
He’s real old and really incapable of playing defense.
by alskor on Dec 1, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i sure hope I don't feel "old" when i'm 24
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by doublestix on Dec 1, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When youre a 1B entering your age 25 season
Yeah. Not impressive.
by alskor on Dec 1, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what does wonders for your numbers?
Repeating the Texas league for the third season.
1st time/2006/Age 22: 102 Games, .202/.305/.303 6 HR
2nd time/2007/Age 23: 70 Games, .246/.359/.447 12 HR
3rd time/2008/Age 24: 91 Games, .314/.463/.624 26 HR
I guess to some, if he was to start 09 at AA again he might end the year as the best prospect in baseball. To me, he’s just a replacement level 1B/DH who will be out of baseball in 4 years.
by alskor on Dec 1, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kila'jaha
reminds me of john jaha. Could be the 4 letters ends with an “a” thing. i think given the opportunity he’ll make it. Some guys don’t get enough opportunities, like say Roberto Petagine (I think Petagine would have been a darn good major leaguer, just like Carlos Pena proved to be-not saying Kila will be quite as good as that).
He had a decent high A season at 21.
by wobatus on Dec 2, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
“Hey Ryan, this Kila guy was taking his third try at AA and finally did well in his age 24 season, but people think he’s like you even though you didnt repeat levels. Plus, you were a much better hitter going into your age 24 season than Kila was – by far. Isnt that funny?”
by alskor on Dec 2, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, hem..
Ryan Howard didn’t break out until he was 24. Kila was 24 this year. Their paths were different – but results VERY comparable at same age + level since they both spent the majority of their respective seasons in AA @ age 24…
Kila: 314 .463 .624 1087 HR in 11.04 AB’s 41/80 K:BB
Ryan: 297 .386 .647 1033 HR in 10.11 AB’s 129/46 K:BB
So, essentially you are dogging Kila because he was promoted to aggressively. Kila’s plate discipline is no typo – he walks TWICE as much as he strikes out where Ryan is a strikeout machine. Go be a douchbag to someone else.
by slurve on Dec 2, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GFY
I dont know why youre taking this personally.
Howard was much better than Kila BEFORE their age 24 seasons. Howard’s breakout wasnt his third try at that league. Kila is an illusion. His lack of XBH that arent HRs is indicative to me that his HR total is an illusion as well.
Seriously, what do people think this guy is going to do in his career? First off, he’s buried, so he’s never going to get a chance anyway. Dayton Moore at least realizes this guy is not a good MLB option. Secondly, he’s a 1B/DH – what kind of line do you predict for him in MLB? Now look at the 1B around the league and try to rank him. Exactly. He’s replacement level or slightly above. Lastly, he has zero defensive value and zero value on the basepaths. He’s a poor man’s Ryan Garko even if he turns out to be what people around here think.
He’s nowhere near a top 100 prospect. I still say he’s out of baseball or floating around AAA in four years. There is no comparison between him and Ryan Howard, even in just their age 24 seasons. They are very different and there are important differences between how they developed. Im not punishing him for being promoted agressively – Kila wasnt young for his league the first time he hit AA. Howard came along slowly, yes, but he wasnt repeating the level – that’s a huge difference. Howard also has much more power than Kila. Howard hits doubles and triples for one. Also, Howard didnt hit a bunch of lucky Texas league HRs that made people think he’s good. Howard has much more power than Kila. Have a scout watch them both and ask him.
Also, when you start a post “Go ask Ryan Howard…” you really dont have any business turning around and calling me a “douchebag” if I respond sarcastically as well.
by alskor on Dec 2, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not
taking it personally – you don’t treat me worse than you do anyone else.
I’m not saying Kila is as good as Ryan Howard. Never did. I used him as an example that just because he’s going to be 25 in first full MLB season – it’s not a big deal as it’s been done. Howard is most certainly better, but a guy with Kila’s plate discipline and passable power is going to be better than you are making him out to be. Who gives a shit if Howard put up better numbers earlier. It’s comparing apples and oranges giving how they were both handled. What matters is what he did this year.
by slurve on Dec 2, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Two points
(a) Statistically, Ryan Howard was MUCH better than Kaaihue
(b) For every one Ryan Howard, there are a hundred guys who fit this profile whose major league success ranges somewhere between Walter Davis and Ryan Shealy.
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by Brickhaus on Dec 2, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
walter davis
He could really stick that 15 foot jumper.
by wobatus on Dec 2, 2008 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NOT!!!
See post above. Kila’s 2008 season in AA was every bit, if not more impressive than Howards.
I agree, guys with Howard’s stat line usually don’t end up better than those 2 examples – mostly due to plate discipline issues. Kila walks twice as much as strikes out.
by slurve on Dec 2, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally disagree
See post above. Kila’s 2008 season in AA was every bit, if not more impressive than Howards.
Only if viewed in a vacuum, outside of context.
by alskor on Dec 2, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think its worthwhile to
look at the effect growing up in Hawaii might have had on his development. The level of competitive baseball is most likely not up to the level it is over here and I think it would be fair to give him some leeway in this regard.
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by wildthang on Dec 2, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh... no
Plate discipline that good renders context invalid. Say what you want about the high HR rate, you can’t deny his control of the strikezone.
by slurve on Dec 2, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im not denying that
Its a plus plus skill he has. I just dont think it makes him a good prospect. His defensive capabilities, lack of contact skills and lack of power will limit him. His patience was never in doubt. What changed this year was the power. I cant say for sure, of course, but there are some big question marks about whether this was a real step forward or an illusion.
The red flags:
-He was in a league that boosts offense signifcantly
-He was older than league appropriate
-He was repeating the league for the third season
-He showed a noticeable lack of SLG prior to 08
-The previously discussed HR/XBH ratio, especially in a league and park that boosts HRs and may turn 2Bs into HRs
The biggest problem I have him with is, again, is that he’s a 1B/DH and excellent plate discipline is only going to take him so far. Now, if you believe as I do that his improved SLG and HR power is an illusion than you dont think he’s going to be anything more than a MLB bench player/AAAA player. BUT If you believe he really took a step forward in terms of power this year – well, you still are probably putting him in the bottom third of MLB 1B if you look at what your reasonable prediction is for him (Offense + Defense) and compare it to 1B around baseball. THAT is why I dont think he belongs on a Top 100 list.
I think Garko is a very reasonable comp as a hitter. Garko was a better prospect because there was some thought he might stick at Catcher and he hit for power all the way up. I really think Kila is a guy who people are going to be embarassed about in a couple years that they thought he was a top prospect.
by alskor on Dec 2, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a small
sample, but his numbers held up in the PCL:
.316 .439 .640 1079 w/ 11 HR in 114 AB’s.
I think his power is for real, but I’ll concede the HR total was probably inflated in AA. Even so, I think he would still have hit 20 or so HR’s in any AA league. According the minorleaguesplits – his park adjusted and luck HR totals stay the same…
by slurve on Dec 2, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Castro
Baseball America just released their Hawaii Winter Baseball Top 20 Prospects. Jason Castro was #6 ahead of Todd Frazier, who was #7, and who has been a tester for some time.
Castro will be an above average catcher both offensively and defensively when he reaches the big leagues sometime in 2010. He also has plus power potential, with an above average to plus arm.
by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 1, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Michael Taylor who is also a tester was #8, and Chris Carter who is on at #51 was 11th on BA list.
Add Castro!
by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 1, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
While that is true
but Dom Brown, and Kyle Drabek are ranked #4 & #5 are probably in the same boat as he is.
by Southwest on Dec 1, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Noonan suddenly getting all of the support?
by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 1, 2008 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Giants prospects have routinely had the ballot stuffed for them (see the positions of Posey, Alderson, Villalona)
Nick Noonan getting on a top 100 list would be easily the most moronic decision on this poll to date, and that’s saying a lot. If you thought Arencibia was bad… Noonan combines his plate discipline with a worse position and far less power.
I’m not saying this out of bias— I know some A’s fans like to be snippy about the Giants, but I’m not one of them. I actually like the team. I just think Noonan is a hack. If you insist on voting for a Giants prospect, at least vote for Henry Sosa, who has at least intermittently demonstrated an actual ability to be good at the game of baseball.
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by PaulThomas on Dec 1, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
he got 1 vote from me.
His plate discipline is not nearly as bad as Arencibia’s. And I think he will make BA’s Top 100.
I dont feel like posting again how he’s better than Cardenas, who is our #57.
by rhd on Dec 1, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um
Noonan’s a pretty good looking prospect. He’s very young, but he’s already shown that he can make good contact and hit for average. If you were to translate his stats in the SAL this year into the college game, I think you’d find that his raw numbers look very solid for a teenager in the middle infield.
He’ll take a while as he needs to develop his skills, but a guy doesn’t need to blow away the league he’s in to be considered a good prospect. For a teenager in the SAL, just holding their own is impressive enough. Of course, other scouting-related factors also play a very heavy role in determining how a guy shapes up in prospectdom . . .but Noonan seems to do fine there.
by mrkupe on Dec 2, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you were to translate his stats in the SAL into the college game,
at any reasonable program, he’d be sitting on the f***ing bench, because his coach would realize he’s terrible and would actually have an incentive to play his better players most of the time.
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by PaulThomas on Dec 2, 2008 2:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?
This is just silly.
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by camwoody on Dec 2, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
Noonan would be looking pretty damn good as a sophomore in college right now. He’s not a great prospect, but he’s nothing near a bench player. The college game isn’t as high a level as PT seems to think.
by slamcactus on Dec 2, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If someone wants to come up with a metal-bat translation of Noonan's numbers, I'll listen
Till then, I’m unconvinced.
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by PaulThomas on Dec 3, 2008 3:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go
Disclaimer: I do not have the statistical information from the teams that Clemson University (where Noonan had committed) played in 2008. I only have Clemson’s statistics. So let’s assume that Noonan is playing at roughly the same level of potential-to-performance as the rest of his teammates.
SAL League 2008 OPS: .707
Nick Noonan 2008 OPS in SAL: .730
Nick Noonan’s 2008 OPS+: +3
Using Sickels statistical translation method, Noonan’s OPS+ is +3 in SAL, +10 in SS ball, +17 in Rookie ball, +24 in NCAA Division I.
Team OPS of 2008 Clemson University team: .807 (.285/.368/.439)
Raw Estimated Nick Noonan 2008 OPS for Clemson: 1.000
OPS breakdown: 44% from OBP/56% from SLG
OBP breakdown: 88% from BA
Estimated statistical line for Nick Noonan 2008: .387/.440/.560(!)
Now, I don’t pretend to be a mathematician. And as I said before, this is flawed, but it’s also the best thing I can provide for the moment. But what can you take from this? Well . . .
Noonan was actually a slightly ABOVE-AVERAGE player in the SAL in 2008, without regard given to position context. So he definitely was not “terrible” at all, and when you consider that he was just a teenager in the middle infield . . .all of a sudden, he sounds like a pretty good prospect, doesn’t he? When you consider that NCAA competition is certainly lesser than what can be found in the SAL, his statistics would almost certainly get a significant boost (although not nearly as large as the one described here – again, this was just used to illustrate a point).
Counter-argument, naturally. Noonan remains a rather undisciplined hitter and developed college pitchers might be more adept at getting him out than many of the pitchers he faced in the SAL. This would certainly apply in some cases but at the same time, it would also be mitigated and even overcome by the lesser quality of competition as a whole in the NCAA, as well as the obvious matter of metal over wood bats (something that would seem to have a lot of benefit to an undisciplined hitter). At the very least, he SHOULD have had a modestly higher level of performance in the college game relative to his peers than he did this year in the Sally League – which, as noted before, was already very slightly above average.
So, just a guess . . .he wouldn’t have been sitting on anybody’s bench.
by mrkupe on Dec 3, 2008 5:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One follow-up
Just to play fair, I wanted to add this. Let’s assume that Noonan DID have some struggles with more advanced pitchers, and let’s also compensate for lack of knowledge about Clemson’s competition. Cut that 1.000 figure to .800. Noonan’s line would then be .310/.352/.448. That’s still a fine, fine campaign for just about any college player, and especially so for a teenage second baseman.
by mrkupe on Dec 3, 2008 5:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a real problem with someone just saying "NCAA Division I"
It’s not going to be appropriate for leagues with elite competition, i.e. the SEC, ACC, and Pac-10. Conversely, that’s going to overstate the difficulty of leagues like the Big 10, NEC, WCC, and Mountain West. The players in the former leagues are radically superior. Most high-level D-I players start out in short-season or Low-A ball. They don’t tend to match their raw college numbers, but college teams tend to have small parks and, of course, use metal bats.
I would think he’d be closer to the +3 than the +24, but maybe I am overrating college teams.
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by PaulThomas on Dec 3, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
College
Fine. Two sets of numbers then. The first set are his numbers if one were to take the difference between +3 and +24, halve it, and round down for OPS +10. You get .344/.391/.497/.888.
The second set of numbers caves totally to you. It assumes that he plays at exactly the same level in college as he did against SAL competition (OPS +3). You get the following:
.322/.366/.465/.831
That’s a VERY respectable level of performance in college ball, and especially so when we view it in the context of a 19 year old second baseman.
by mrkupe on Dec 4, 2008 4:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not remotely true.
He was not even borderline terrible last year. .280/.315/.415 for a teenage middle infielder in the Sally League is a perfectly acceptable line. Converting it to the collegiate level would result in some very promising performance.
And, as always, it should be noted that at lower levels, statistics often take a backseat to scouting reports (and for good reason). Sometimes it takes players time to develop, and major league teams don’t tend to hold it against them. I’m certainly not about to do so.
by mrkupe on Dec 3, 2008 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Paul proving that he’d be on the bench in college is akin to proving the existence of God – therefore he must be right. /sarcasm.
by slurve on Dec 3, 2008 6:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Darl
because it’s an awesome typo.
But next time it’s Donald. He’s way underrated.
by METSMETSMETS on Dec 1, 2008 10:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I went Donald
After him I’ll probably go Simmons/Tabata if they are left on the board.
by Southwest on Dec 1, 2008 11:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tester requests
I’ll second the request for Dan Duffy of KC.
I’ll also put out a request of my own for Austin Romine of the Yankees.
by mrkupe on Dec 2, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
curious about Romine as well
.781 OPS with 10 homers as a 19 year-old catcher (who is likely to stay at the position) in the SAL is pretty solid. Considering how few guys on this list are likely to stick at catcher in the bigs (I’m not counting guys like Ramirez, Flowers, and Montero), I think he deserves a look.
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by lemonjello on Dec 2, 2008 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Noonan? Seriously?
Went with Simmons again.
Never, Never, NEVER give up
by hero66 on Dec 2, 2008 12:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Simmons?
Tell me why I should support this.
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by wildthang on Dec 2, 2008 3:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well,
beyond the fact its been discussed ad nauseam over the last ten polls, how about the fact the alternative is Nick Noonan? Simmons will be on (and belongs on) every other top 100 list this offseason. Noonan will be on no legitimate top 100 lists, and doesnt belong on one.
by alskor on Dec 2, 2008 3:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Luis Valbuena...
for tester.
He’s the kind of player it should be embarrassing for prospect lists to miss, because he’s a GREAT bet to be hitting .280/.350/.450 in the majors within the next 2 years, and he’s a plus fielder. His success has come primarily at the upper levels, though, so he’s sneaking up on people.
He’s a 2B version of Asdrubal Cabrera, and a very valuable player.
by slamcactus on Dec 2, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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