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Some Thoughts on Arizona

Some interesting players I saw in Arizona.

J.P. Arencibia, C, Toronto Blue Jays: His power is obvious, as are his issues with breaking balls. I thought his arm looked quite strong and he is mobile for a big guy. My opinion hasn't changed...like the power, worry about the batting average and OBP against good pitching.

Gordon Beckham, SS, Chicago White Sox: I caught some buzz from other observers that people are concerned about his swing: they don't like the way it looks, kind of "choppy" was how one person described it to me. Scouts were also downplaying his range, and at least one person I spoke with said Beckham really didn't look like a guy who was drafted in the first round. I will admit that he did not strike me either strongly positive or strongly negative in the one game I saw him play. I wouldn't make too much of this just yet, we need to see more out of him, but some people are concerned.

Andrew Carignan, RHP, Oakland Athletics: He has really good bite on his breaking ball. Didn't get a velocity reading but fastball looked above average.

Jordan Danks, OF, Chicago White Sox: playing well in Arizona, and I thought he was very interesting coming out of Texas in the first place. Speed and athleticism are highly impressive, and he controls the zone well. Some scouts theorize that he may be a guy who hits better with wood than aluminum. Still some concerns about his power, but he could be a Steve Finley/Brady Anderson type, and I mean that in a good way.

Sean Doolittle, 1B, Oakland Athletics: Hitting well down here, but I thought his swing looked long, certainly longer than it looked in college. Maybe he is trying to hit for more power? He played with more energy than most players down here.

Jeff Manship, RHP, Minnesota Twins: Solid fastball, average velocity but some movement, seemed to have some problems locating his secondary pitches, which was the same knock on him in Double-A. Looked kind of tired to me, not unusual given the long season.

Aaron Poreda, LHP, Chicago White Sox: Impressive velocity from the left side in the 90-94 range. Good slider. He has been sharp down here in a relief role, and I could see him as possibly a future closer if they don't think his changeup will hold up as a starter.

Danny Valencia, 3B, Minnesota Twins: HIs swing looked longer than I expected. Decent throwing arm, but I thought his range afield was pretty mediocre, though reports from the regular season indicate an improved glove. Has had some problems with strike zone judgment in Arizona and that could be an issue for him going forward.

Brett Wallace, 3B, St. Louis Cardinals: Huge butt. Like Bob Hamelin type butt. But his bat is absolutely for real. Massive power potential to all fields and he should hit for average as well. On defense, he has the arm for third base. He has more range than you might expect, and I think he can be a below-average but not horrible defender at third in the short run. The problem I see is what happens when he starts, inevitably, to lose his range. Even a minor diminuation in mobility will make him untenable at third. But the bat, yeah, I love the bat.

Eric Young Jr, OF, Colorado Rockies: One of the few guys I mentioned who was playing with tons of energy and enthusiasm. He opened up his swing a bit more since I saw him in April. Works the count. Very fast obviously. Hit a nice home run in the game I saw, though he tends to overswing when he gets power-conscious. They are using him in the outfield right now since his second base defense won't be better than average. A lot of fun to watch.

More Tomorrow.

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"Brett Wallace, 3B, St. Louis Cardinals: Huge butt. Like Bob Hamelin type butt.

by slurve on Nov 4, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

oops..

“Brett Wallace, 3B, St. Louis Cardinals: Huge butt. Like Bob Hamelin type butt.”

If it was Rick Mahorn big, we’d have a problem….

by slurve on Nov 4, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Great stuff

Hope you were able to see Juan Miranda.

The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.

by mckeeno on Nov 4, 2008 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

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don’t know why young is in CF. he is lost out there. if they are turning him into a super-sub type i could see that, but he’s obviously behind fowler in Colorado and won’t have great trade value in CF as it is.

by ScottAZ on Nov 4, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Scherzer? Schafer?

Is Big Max strictly acting as a starter in the AFL?

Also curious about how Jordan Schafer is doing…he finished the summer strong, and wondering if success carried over. Is anyone of the opinion that he’ll be a starter in Atlanta next April?

Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.

by Giants_Junkie on Nov 4, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

J.P. Arencibia

I hope to gawd he learns to hit a breaking ball. Oh and a walk here or there would be okay too. They Jays need a legit young catcher.

by LBDirtbags on Nov 4, 2008 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

I would love to see what you think about Josh Donaldson.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Nov 4, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks, John

I have a feeling the A’s are going to regret taking Weeks at #12.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Nov 4, 2008 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

frankly shocked when they didn't take Wallace in that spot

When he was on the board @ 12, I was excited to have a replacement for Chavez…. oh well.

The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.

by gdub171 on Nov 5, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I still love Weeks

He’s getting an unfair rap

by alskor on Nov 5, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I was suprised we passed on Wallace, but it didn't look horrible at the time

Looked 100% God awful once we got Cardenas. We have no prospects on that side of the infield.

by matt0177 on Nov 5, 2008 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for the notes

especially on Arencibia and Wallace…interesting stuff

by PrincetonCubs on Nov 5, 2008 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

Gordon Beckham

Could you possibly elaborate on what exactly are the complaints about Beckham? Are they saying he looks DIFFERENT from when he was in College? He was never big to begin with or an impressive physical specimin but he’s a player.

I see lots to like… pop, quickness, arm strength, toughness, decent eye. I could see people being disappointed if they expected 30 homer power but I never expected that but it’s plenty for a SS in my mind. Just interested to hear why they seem down on him.

by casejud on Nov 5, 2008 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

John, I hope that you can shed some light on

Julio Borbon and his sudden decision to take a walk..

13BB in 63 AFL AB’s
15BB in 291 A+ AB’
14BB in 255 AA AB’s

Lets play “Which one of these do not look the same..”

If he can establish some form of plate discipline, look out. He already has the exact ISOP and a higher LD% than Ellsbury but had a lower BB% at the same point in the minors… Hype machine here we come.

by laxtonto on Nov 5, 2008 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Probably

says more about AFL pitchers than it does about Borbon.

by alskor on Nov 5, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah.

i did a back of the envelope calculation of offensive stats for the AFL last week and came up with .365 OBP and .460 SLG. they’re probably off a bit because i eyeballed it more than anything but it’s ballpark.

by larry on Nov 5, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

wallace

i watched wallace play 3b for my Sun Devils all year last year and i see no reason for him to be moved off 3b other than that he doesn’t “look” like a 3b. I can honestly say I didn’t see another 3b in the Pac10 that looked much better defensively. He has a solid arm, is a good athlete and pretty quick, and has good reflexes. Granted, he’s no Longoria and Zimmerman at 3b, but I see a lot worse playing 3b in the Bigs. You telling me a Troy Glaus has more range than Wallace now?

Seems players get labled a certain way and can’t shake it for whatever reason. People want to think Wallace is strictly a 1b and I bet most of them have never seen him play

by ScottAZ on Nov 5, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

I only got to see

UCLA’s Jermaine Curtis a couple times but I think I’d easily take his glove over Wallace’s among PAC10 3Bs

by nms on Nov 5, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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Curtis is quicker and has more range, but I wouldn’t necessarily say he has a better glove and he certainly has a worse arm, hence his move to 2b in the pros

by ScottAZ on Nov 6, 2008 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Poreda’s velocity only at 90-94? Sounds a bit low for him.

by The Big Hurt on Nov 5, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

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