Dan Meyer to the Marlins

by drjayphd on Nov 3, 2008 5:23 PM EST Comment 23 comments

Just came across on ESPN's transaction wire that the Marlins claimed Dan Meyer off waivers from Oakland. Being one of the centerpieces of the Tim Hudson deal, one would think they would've made more of a move to keep him, buuuuut... apparently not. Did he just stall out at AAA? Certainly didn't look like he did much to distinguish himself in the majors, going off the numbers (those being an 0-4 record in 11 appearances, four starts, 7.48 ERA, 1.77 WHIP).

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Yeah...

Who would have thought that Juan Cruz would end up the best player in our package for Hudson back in the day.

Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/

by ejruiz on Nov 3, 2008 5:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

um....

every braves fan…..meyer was another arm in an organization that had solid arms (kyle davies, blaine boyer, macay mcbride, etc) at the time that were at a similar level as he was….cruz was a power swingman arm, and he impressed a ton of braves fans….i know the braves fans i talk with all thought cruz was the biggest loss to the braves in the deal….

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Nov 3, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

-1

Braves fans who didn’t pay much attention to the minors may have been more familiar with Cruz than Meyer, but Bryan Smith ranked Meyer the #18 prospect in the game right before he was traded. There’s no doubt which player Beane and Schuerholz considered the centerpiece of that trade package.

by slamcactus on Nov 3, 2008 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i wouldn't say that

like i said, the fans i knew were quite knowledgable about minors….but the abundance of pitchers who were at the same level as meyer was obvious to fans….oddly, none of them really has worked out (unless davies can parlay his end of the season success into a full season)….meyer was the jewel of that bunch, but was more expendable because of the others….cruz….well….the braves bullpen has been their weak point for all but about two seasons of the last 20….

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Nov 3, 2008 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

-1000

The fact that the Braves had a lot of other pitching prospects doesn’t mean braves fans at the time thought Cruz would be the best player. As one of those fans who went and saw Meyer pitch in the minors in anticipation, I can tell you 100% that he was the only part of the deal that Braves’ fans even cared about giving up.

by aCone419 on Nov 4, 2008 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

um....

i guess the comment i responded to did mention best player, but i never claimed cruz was the best player in the trade…..but that his loss was most detrimental to the braves….and that was very true….cruz could have been a very nice piece of a bullpen over the last few years….

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Nov 4, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The A's had no use keeping Meyer on their roster anymore based on who else they have now

The fact he was part of a marquee trade 3 years ago is pretty meaningless by now. He didn’t work out, time to move on.

by jibs on Nov 3, 2008 5:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Meyer had a shoulder injury, stupidly decided to pitch through it, and ended up requiring surgery

which caused his control to drop from plus to minus.

Object lesson, boys and girls: If you are a pitcher, and your shoulder hurts a lot, stop pitching for a while. And maybe even tell a physician about it.

Wasn’t much room for him on the roster. The A’s have a bewildering number of lefty relief arms (even after getting rid of him and Embree) and only a couple of slots for them.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2008 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Is this news?

roster filler picked up on waivers.

by jahs34 on Nov 3, 2008 6:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Cut them some slack

Everyone is so primed for hot stove season to start that we’ll take anything.

by aap212 on Nov 3, 2008 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Breaking News

Even Billy Beane makes mistakes some times…

Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball

by Yakker on Nov 3, 2008 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

He makes mistakes but this isn't one.

Meyer sucks

by NateHST on Nov 3, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, he really should've known Meyer was going to hide an injury for almost a full season

Until his arm was completely destroyed. Beane is soooo stupid.

by thejd44 on Nov 4, 2008 3:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like some Beane fanboy spin

by aCone419 on Nov 4, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

How is that?

You said yourself that Meyer was the only part that Braves fans cared about losing in the deal. Meyer hid an injury and tried to pitch thru it. It didn’t work. The trade ended up horrible for the A’s because of Meyer’s injury. Had he stayed healthy, the deal would probably have still looked a little bad, since Charles Thomas(the real mistake in the trade) was totally worthless and Cruz didn’t really pan out(or get time to do so). But Meyer’s injury took the deal from slightly in Atlanta’s favor to a total waste on the A’s end. It sucks, but I don’t see how that’s “fanboy spin”.

"So's your mom"-David Sloane

by gatling on Nov 4, 2008 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not only because of Meyer's injury

But because he hid the injury and tried to pitch through it and ultimately destroyed his arm.

by thejd44 on Nov 4, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually

I was referring to the fact that Hudson has exceeded expectations in Atlanta. Many (myself included) thought the downward trend in his component stats made him a likely candidate for a performance fall (as Mulder went), but that hasn’t been the case. Instead, he has stabilized (and even improved in some areas) and remained a valuable pitcher for the Braves.

As for Meyer’s injury, I don’t know (and I don’t think anyone except Dan does) when he was injured. However, since the moment he put on an A’s jersey in 2005, he struggled.

Blaming the pitcher in a situation like this one is a natural (and often reasonable) reaction. However, looking back, there were cracks in Meyer’s armor as far as back as 2004. He may never have turned in to anything on the major league level even if he had been completely honest about his injuries (and the A’s medical staff had treated those injuries successfully, not necessarily a given).

Formerly Uncle Charlie of Minor League Ball

by Yakker on Nov 10, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I used to like Meyer – as did many others – but he hasn’t been the same since the injuries began to creep in. Some thought he would be as good as a #2 (this was 3-4 yrs back). Now, though, just depth. Not a bad gamble but one unlikely to yield much.

by rdf8585 on Nov 3, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

When traded to the A's

most thought he was as good as Haren and better than Blanton.

Just goes to show how injuries can derail top prospects.

Good luck Dan and hopefully a change of scenery is what is needed to live up to your potential.

by Bud Light on Nov 3, 2008 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Actually, most thought Meyer was far and away better than Haren

It was sort of like comparing… well… comparing Hudson to Mulder.

But, weirdly enough, it turned out that Haren became Hudson, and Meyer became…. Arial Prieto.

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Nov 7, 2008 3:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

beane's new big 3 or 4

just didnt go completely as planned…oh well 50% of it was okay…the rest injuries

haren- pitched way beyond expectations…from decent mlb ready back rotation type to ace
blanton- steady innings eater, even though i wasnt a huge fan
harden- always the could be ace, but was always injured
meyer- dont hide injuries, lesson learned hopefully

by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 4, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs