Who is Community Prospect #56?
by the pinstripes on Nov 17, 2008 10:07 AM EST
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After a 259 votes Michael Bowden has been declared the winner with 20% of the vote. Tyler Flowers came in second place with 15%. Angel Salome, Dellin Betances, J.P. Arencibia & Daryl Jones will be removed from the poll as they received less than the 5% minimum. Andrew Lambo, Nick Weglarz, Daniel Cortes, Phillippe Aumont & Todd Frazier will be added to the poll. If you wish to vote other just list the person below. This way we're not wasting a spot.
1. MATT WIETERS - C (Baltimore)
2. DAVID PRICE - SP (Tampa Bay)
3. JASON HEYWARD - OF (Atlanta)
4. TRAVIS SNIDER - OF (Toronto)
5. MADISON BUMGARNER - SP (San Francisco)
6. COLBY RASMUS - OF (St. Louis)
7. CAMERON MAYBIN - OF (Florida)
8. TREVOR CAHILL - SP (Oakland)
9. NEFTALI FELIZ - SP (Texas)
10. MATT LAPORTA - 1B/OF/DH (Cleveland)
11. MIKE MOUSTAKAS - 3B (Kansas City)
12. TIM ALDERSON - SP (San Francisco)
13. PEDRO ALVAREZ - 3B (Pittsburgh)
14. RICK PORCELLO - SP (Detroit)
15. DEXTER FOWLER - OF (Colorado)
16. BRETT ANDERSON - SP (Oakland)*
17. DEREK HOLLAND - SP (Texas)
18. ANDREW McCUTCHEN - OF (Pittsburgh)
19. BUSTER POSEY - C (San Francisco)
20. CHRIS TILLMAN - SP (Baltimore)
21. LARS ANDERSON - 1B (Boston)
22. JUSTIN SMOAK - 1B (Texas)
23. THOMAS HANSON - SP (Atlanta)
24. ELVIS ANDRUS - SS (Texas)
25. ANGEL VILLALONA - 1B (San Francisco)
26. JHOULYS CHACIN - SP (Colorado)
27. BRIAN MATUSZ - SP (Baltimore)
28. ERIC HOSMER - 1B (Kansas City)
29. TIM BECKHAM - SS (Tampa Bay)
30. MAX RAMIREZ - C/1B (Texas)
31. JARROD PARKER - SP (Arizona)
32. MICHAEL STANTON - OF (Florida)
33. MAT GAMEL - 3B (Milwaukee)
34. JESUS MONTERO - C (New York)
35. BRETT WALLACE - 3B (St. Louis)
36. JORDAN SCHAFER - OF (Atlanta)
37. WADE DAVIS - SP (Tampa Bay)
38. LOGAN MORRISON - 1B (Florida)
39. CARLOS SANTANA - C (Cleveland)
40. FERNANDO MARTINEZ - OF (New York)
41. JAMES McDONALD - SP (Los Angeles)
42. JEREMY HELLICKSON - SP (Tampa Bay)
43. JOSH VITTERS - 3B (Chicago)
44. YONDER ALONSO - 1B (Cincinatti)
45. TAYLOR TEAGARDEN - C (Texas)
46. FREDDIE FREEMAN - 1B (Atlanta)
47. GORDON BECKHAM - SS (Chicago)
48. BRETT CECIL - SP (Toronto)
49. ALCIDES ESCOBAR - SS (Milwaukee)*
50. JORDAN ZIMMERMANN - SP (Washington)
51. CHRIS CARTER - 1B/DH (Oakland)
52. CARLOS TRIUNFEL - SS (Seattle)
53. AUSTIN JACKSON - OF (New York)
54. BEN REVERE - OF (Minnesota)
55. MICHAEL BOWDEN - SP (Boston)
CANDIDATES - Wilmer Flores, Reid Brignac, Tyler Flowers, Michael Main, Adrian Cardenas, Michael Saunders, Jake Arrieta, Andrew Lambo, Nick Weglarz, Daniel Cortes, Phillippe Aumont & Todd Frazier
TESTERS - Chris Perez, Kyle Blanks, Michel Inoa, Martin Perez, Greg Halman, Michael Burgess, Jeff Samardzija, Carlos Carrasco, Jose Tabata, Aaron Hicks, Kila Ka'Aihue, Aaron Cunningham, Christopher Marrero, Adam Miller, Jason Donald, Beau Mills, Jeremy Jeffress, Desmond Jennings, Matt Dominguez, Jordan Walden, Angel Salome, Dellin Betances, Daryl Jones & J.P. Arencibia
Please post more ideas for testers and we will consider them
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voted frazier
flowers, dominguez, arencibia are the next couple in my thoughts.
i look for guys with major league quality bats that will play as plus at whatever position they might land at.
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by variablesdont on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
tyler flowers
gets my vote.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Nov 17, 2008 10:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy Jeffress
I say other. Jeffress’s ERA was higher than his defense independent numbers, and he still strikes out gobs of hitters with great stuff.
Out of the poll options, I voted Caradenas.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Nov 17, 2008 10:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I will try to remember to put Jeffress on the poll tonight.
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by King Billy Royal on Nov 17, 2008 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
as soon as Brignac gets on, I could go for Jeffress, Dominguez, or DJ
by daveh33 on Nov 17, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I voted for Frazier here and Saunders is a good prospect but Jeffress should geta look soon. A nice writeup on saberscouting.com comparing Hellickson and Jeffress… he says that he goes back and forth over who he likes better and Jeffress CLEARLY has the better arm
http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/06/16/jeremyjeffressreport/
Actaully, the report USED to compare both Hellickson and Jeffress but now its been split up but they are both there. The link above is Jeffress.
by casejud on Nov 17, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
other: walden
seems like it’s about time. the other candidates are slightly underwhelming.
by jpahk on Nov 17, 2008 10:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Other
Carlos Carrasco – feel like I’m becoming blue in the face
by thudean on Nov 17, 2008 11:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
He may have been a bit over rated elsewhere in the past, but at this point he’s probably the biggest oversight here.
by acerimusdux on Nov 17, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inman
I think it’s about time Will Inman gets some consideration as a tester.
by rutgersjpm on Nov 17, 2008 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
-1
imo.. inman has no business in the top 100
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Nov 17, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Inman DOES have business here as a tester.
I know this Wil sound strange for some but what exactly about accomplishments has Cahill done more than Inman? Take a look at them. Both made AA at the end of the same age…Inman dominated low A MORE than Cahill…
…then Inman gets whiped off the face of prospect-ranking-earth for allowing some homers in AA last season
He comes back to AA and has a GREAT SEASON and eliminates the homer problem and now he isnt being touched because people JUST NOW dont like his delivery, which is the same one he has always had.
He was one of THE best pitchers in the Texas League at the age of 21 and is a terrific pitching prospect. Couldn’t disagree with you morer pinstripes.
by casejud on Nov 17, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not saying he isn’t a decent prospect but there are many other pitchers i’d rather have over him.
are you not concerned w/ 71 walks in 135 innings? if i’m going to go w/ a guy who struggles w/ command i’ll take my chances with jeffress who has much better stuff imo.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Nov 17, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im not
His command was always a strength in the past… he led the league in K’s… I think guys were laying off the great curveball and he wasn’t giving in. Just like the homers he allowed in 2007 and corrected in 2008, I think he’ll adjust. I’d be really surprised if he didn’t improve the walk rate by a lot in 2009.
I think Inman is SERIOUSLY undertated round these parts right now. That said, I might take Jeffress too…maybe. Just wanted to mention Inman though.
by casejud on Nov 17, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get real
Sorry but, hes not deserving yet…not close
by casejud on Nov 17, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Niese and Inman should be pretty close to each other
A little later in the top 100, I’d like to see both.
by aap212 on Nov 17, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly
I don’t see how Niese touches Inman as a prospect myself. I look at thier records and I see Inman having better results and periphs everywhere until this year until you adjust for context…Eatern League vs Texas League. I think Inman will have a career and Niese might not.
by casejud on Nov 17, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he could belong near here
but, this list is very hitter heavy.
If it were more balanced, I think Niese might have a shot in the 60-70 range. On this list, there’s several guys we probably have to get to before Niese.
Carrasco, Samardzjia, David Huff, Chris Perez, off the top of my head.
by acerimusdux on Nov 17, 2008 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly right back at you Casejud
I’ve heard nothing about Inman having a pitch as strong as Niese’s curveball, and Niese has had better walk rates and home run rates the last two years.
by aap212 on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
Can’t argue that i guess. i still think inman is going to be a better big leaguer than Niese though. we’ll have to wait and see on that one i guess.
by casejud on Nov 18, 2008 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Went Saunders here
After voting for what seemed like an eternity for Bowden.
by killa on Nov 17, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Weglarz
This year’s Dexter Fowler (though they are nothing alike as prospects, I know), in this way: added outstanding plate discipline to his skillset, and it’s not like the enormous power he demonstrated previously is gone. Next year he will re-establish his power, harnessing his new skill (as opposed to developing it). Has as much power upside, I think, as anyone on the list, may still stick at OF, and now has as much plate discipline as anyone on the list. And is starting to get on top of his development curve, as his lost injury year and cold-weather background no longer seem to be a factor. He might be around 30 in my own personal list.
by gogotabata on Nov 17, 2008 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how does he separate himself from the other LFers on the rangefinder?
lambo, kulbacki, and michael taylor all have equally good arguments, i think. i’d rate them lambo, taylor, weglarz, kulbacki, but i don’t think i’d vote for any of them before matt dominguez or todd frazier.
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by variablesdont on Nov 17, 2008 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lambo
Lambo is the only guy I’d rate on the same plane as Weglarz — Taylor doesn’t have the track record, and is much more likely to flameout. I just don’t think Kulbacki has all that hot of an upside; he certainly doesn’t look like a possible middle of the order guy to me.
I think Matt Dominguez should be on the list already, especially as a plus defender. Todd Frazier and Chris Valaika are both back end of a top 100 for me.
by gogotabata on Nov 17, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone please convince me
What makes Tyler Flowers a better prospect than Angel Salome or JP Arencibia?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Nov 17, 2008 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
cool name?
personally, I’ll take Salome
by daveh33 on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His ability to take PEDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That and the fact that his glove will probably move him off catcher!!!!!!!!!!
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by King Billy Royal on Nov 17, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't vote Flowers, but...
It’s not his glove that would move him from behind the plate. It’s this guy named Brian McCann.
Admittedly, he does need to work on his throws to 2nd, but reportedly the rest of his catching game is good.
by parish on Nov 17, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AS: Salome is 3/4 of a foot shorter and has less plate discipline and power projection.
JA: Apparently has no understanding of the strike zone.
by aCone419 on Nov 17, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Salome also had a PED issue!!!!!!!!!!
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by King Billy Royal on Nov 17, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys on the list that I think shouldn't be on it yet
Teagarden, Cecil, Gamel, Triunfel. That’s actually not too bad. I think this is a pretty interesting list so far . . .
by gogotabata on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Teagarden=Buchholz
or at least the Rangers and Red Sox are pretty close to thinking so. If Buchholz were still eligible we would have gotten to him way before we got to Teagareden, even with the ugly half season in the majors factored in. Teagarden’s not going to the hall of fame but he is going to be an average to above average hitting, well above average fielding catcher to as high a degree of certainty as say, anyone from #30 on is likely to reach their potential. Certainly puts him ahead of Flowers who wishes that a year or two from now he will be where Teagarden is today, on the cusp of a starting catcher job with no roadblocks in his way that aren’t likely to be moved out of the way.
by Dalman on Nov 17, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a fair comparison
Different teams have different needs. Since Boston needs a catcher, and since they have excess young starters (Dice K, Beckett, Lester, Masterton, Bowden, etc) they are likely willing to deal one of their arms for a slight downgrade prospect wise at catcher. They understand that they will have a much easier time filling any pitching hole via the free agent market then finding a decent catcher on the open market.
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by King Billy Royal on Nov 17, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By that argument
Considering the Rangers don’t need a catcher and do need starters, then they might think in terms of strict talent Teagarden is better than Buchholtz. I don’t disagree with your conclusion, btw (Buchholz is definitely better than Teagarden) but Teagarden is still pretty damn good
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by OldProspects on Nov 17, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arrieta
seems to be falling, and I can’t figure out why.
by AndrewTorrez on Nov 17, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Michael Main
He’s the #1 prospect in the Best System in Baseball… it surprising he’s not there
by Baseball North on Nov 17, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He is?
I thought he was a Rangers prospect.
Kidding.
But I didn’t know he was number 1. Ahead of Smoak, Holland, Feliz, Perez, Andrus, Teagarden and David Clyde?
by wobatus on Nov 17, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to some
Who have seen him in person alongside all those others. I think this next year he is going to skyrocket up the polls into a possible top 10 spot. Hes that good.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Only...
You didn’t vote for just all Rangers prospects throughout the entire poll.
by cwhitman412 on Nov 17, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Flowers?/Cardenas?
Neither one of these guys belongs this high.
by rhd on Nov 17, 2008 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sure they do
Roughly. But, sigh, a run-off between them for 56 is pretty snoozefville, yet we may be headed that way.
How high do you think they should be, who do you put ahead of them and why? I bet a lot of folks here think they should be higher.
by wobatus on Nov 17, 2008 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
on the voting for Bowden for an eternity part.
by Dalman on Nov 17, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tester
I still think we’re giving Inoa the short end of the stick…
by GuyinNY on Nov 17, 2008 5:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Might be a tick too early
But I just want to whisper the name everyone will be shouting a year from now: Engel Beltre
by gogotabata on Nov 17, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't make me laugh
His MLE OPS this year was comically bad— in the .400s.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 17, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was 18 this year
Does MLE take age into consideration?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
And it’s a horrible way to evaluate prospects.
by slamcactus on Nov 17, 2008 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLE OPS!
Jason Heyward has a MLE OPS of 606.
Angel Villalona has a MLE OPS of 525.
by gogotabata on Nov 17, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and you'll notice that I thought both of those players were ridiculously overrated on this list
Heyward should have been in the 10s-20s. Villalona shouldn’t even be on the list at this point.
People love ranking based purely on upside because there’s no accountability. You can always just say “oh, he didn’t work out,” or “tools never came together,” or whatever. Which leads to ridiculous outcomes like this list. (Granted, ballot-stuffing also had a lot to do with where Villalona went.)
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by PaulThomas on Nov 17, 2008 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLE
is a horrible way to evaluate prospects. If you want to know how good a prospect would be in the majors right now, subjective valuation of minor league numbers combined with scouting reports are more valuable. The only reason to use MLE is if you’re deciding which immobile AAAA 1B/DH bat your team should give an NRI as a potential bench bat. Even then, scouting reports are probably the better bet.
by slamcactus on Nov 17, 2008 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should use MLE
to settle the Flowers vs Cardenas run off. :)
by acerimusdux on Nov 17, 2008 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fine by me, I'm voting for Flowers...
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by PaulThomas on Nov 17, 2008 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I guess Paul expects all EIGHTEEN year old prospects to have good MLE OPS!!!!! Talk about cherrypicking your stats to make a guy look bad.
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by King Billy Royal on Nov 17, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, FIVE exclamation points? Impressive. I bow to your skillful use of punctuation.
I expect players who want serious consideration as top prospects to not be embarrassingly bad at baseball. Engel Beltre is embarrassingly bad at baseball right now.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 17, 2008 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shhhhh
Lets keep that one on the D.L. for a little while. With all the other great ranger prospects lets try and keep another one as under tha radar as possible.
But seriously I could realistically see next year having Feliz, Holland, and main as top 10 prospects in all of baseball if they don’t use their eligibility up this next year. Smoak could be a top 15 prospect. Andrus could be a top 20 prospect. And Beltre should be a top 50 prospect. Call me a Ranger homer all you want but those are serious projections.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on theFeliz and Holland and Smoak, and possibly even Andrus and Beltre but a little over zealous on Main...
But for Beltre to get that much pub, he has to learn to take a walk to start with.
For Andrus to get there, he just has to keep hitting and stealing bases and playing defense and add a few more XBH in AAA .
Main would have to dominate both the Cal league and the Texas (AA) league to even get mention of that type of hype.I Love Main, but I see more of a top 30 or so in a year.
Smoak is possible, especially if he keeps on the pace he set in the AFL and starts like is rumored in AA…
Feliz and Holland both could be in the top 10 a year from now, they just have to maintain their seasons on AA/AAA.
The strange thing is that Texas will have a better system a year from now, even though right now they are considered 1 or 1a.
by laxtonto on Nov 17, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Every team will have a better system a year from now if all their prospects carry identical statlines to higher levels
unless they graduate like 7 players, or something.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 17, 2008 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the entire point, teams at the top of the prospect rankings should be graduating a lot of guys or a key premier player
it is hard to see Texas lose more than 1 or 2 guys this year that would be weighted in the prospect rankings,with everything happening perfectly to force call ups. Most teams that are ranked #1 or #2 tend to have significant attrition to the next year.
Hell in 2008 just look TB, they will drop to the 3-6 range with the loss of just Longoria and injury problems. Or Bos with the loss of Masterson, Ellsbury, Lowrie and Bucholz that should drop them to around 10.
2007, Col was #2 and graduated 3 good players and dropped to the middle of the Pack. 2006 was Ariz 2005 the Dodgers. It is very rarely do you see a team ranked #1 or #2 get better not worse.
It falls back to the cyclical nature of baseball. Texas and Oak should be on the way back down the prospect ladder, not staying the same or getting better.
by laxtonto on Nov 17, 2008 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't the fact that Tampa is going to drop way down after losing one prospect tell you something?
Texas, Oakland, Atlanta… whoever it is, they’re no lock to have a better system a year from now. If Feliz or Cahill blows out his elbow, I venture to say that would have a rather potent impact on the system ranking.
The point here is that you’re giving them credit for performance at higher levels without discounting for the risk that they won’t carry that performance to those higher levels.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 17, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Feliz: Another solid season and he stays top10
Holland: Another solid season and he will be top 10
Smoak: If he lives up to the hype he will be top 15 no problem
Main: I think he has the ability to pull a Derek Holland next year. I think you could easily see him dominate the Cal league for the first couple months and then around early to mid June get promoted to Frisco and get even better. He would skyrocket up the charts. Maybe Top 10 is a bit high but Top 15-20 would almost be guaranteed
Andrus: If he can maintain his OBP which he looks capable of doing. And get his SLG up to 400 he will be a surefire top 20 prospect. To give you an example, if he had the same amount of ABs next year and same number of hits if he simply hit 6 more doubles, 1 more triple, and 2 more home runs he would have a 396 slg%. I don’t think thats too far fetched for him.
Beltre: The concerns about his walking are valid. But then again he is only 18 and as the old adage goes “you don’t walk your way off the island” I think it applies to him. I am not looking for a dramatic improvement in his walk rate but even just a slight one will show me good signs. As his body matures he looks to develop decent power and he has the speed to be a good baserunner. Learn the art of it more and he could put up really good numbers next year.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Main can't pull a Derek Holland
People already know who Main is, and they’ve known who he is since he came into pro ball. Part of pulling a Derek Holland is that people have no idea who you are for the most part.
by aap212 on Nov 17, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Main can't pull a Derek Holland
because if he did, Dewey’s head would explode!!!!!!!!!!!
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by King Billy Royal on Nov 17, 2008 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What I mean is skyrocket up the charts
I realize Main is much more known than Holland is/was but so far he will be ranked mostly on projection with little statswise to back it up. He puts up a year statswise like Holland did this year and it could vault him to elite status. Holland year vaulted him up to top prospect status. As long as he puts up a solid year he will be an elite prospect.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
If every single Rangers prospect with potential fulfills it, and no Rangers prospect gets injured or has their progress slow, then yeah, I guess they could have a great farm system next year. Actually, scratch that – they have an excellent system right now and it will probably remain excellent, but I severely doubt it will be as good as you hope
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by OldProspects on Nov 17, 2008 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I went Flowers
wanted to go for Flores, but think Flowers is more deserving here.
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