Vote on awards-AL Cy Young

by kershaw_equals_stud on Oct 3, 2008 9:30 AM EDT Comment 23 comments

Ok, so I keep seeing everyone arguing about if CC should win a Cy Young and if Manny should be considered for MVP. Lets vote on a few of these issues... this is how it should be anyways, true baseball fans voting for the awards.... Since I can't put more than one poll in this post (at least I don't think I can) I will just put out 4 seperate posts (hope I don't tick everyone off). I'm really curious to see how the voting goes.

Thanks.

Poll

AL Cy Young

Cliff Lee

260 votes

K-Rod

6 votes

Roy Halladay

87 votes

other

4 votes

357 votes | Poll has closed

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I know Lee had a better year in most aspects.

But if i had one guy to pitch a game this season, I would pick Doc Halladay for the AL.

You can’t argue with Lee’s Record tho, the dude doesn’t loose.

Remember: baseball guys... baseball...

by Metty5 on Oct 3, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

for all those people voting for lee

please educate yourself

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/index.php?s=halladay&submit=Search+Unfiltered

by Wheelhouse on Oct 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

for all those

who think that reading BP is necessary to have a grip on a Cy award.. please educate yourself

by nms on Oct 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+ 1

by world dictator on Oct 3, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Though the article does make a valid point. Also I would prefer Halladay to Lee if i had to pick. Really kinda hard to argue with the year Lee had though. Give the man his award, he’s earned it.

by casejud on Oct 4, 2008 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

-1

For all those who think reading a short article exploring the topic we’re discussing is some sort of negative… uh… why is that again?

by alskor on Oct 4, 2008 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wtf?

I didn’t say that at all. It was a nice read, and it was worth thiking about.
But that doesn’t mean that to think about the Cy award you’ve GOT to be reading whatever BP writes.

by nms on Oct 5, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wtf indeed

Nobody said you have to be reading BP to have an educated opinion. The original poster suggested people read the article and for some reason you took the opportunity to s*** on BP for some reason… just struck me as odd.

For all those who think that reading BP is necessary to have a grip on a Cy award.. please educate yourself

Im not sure what youre trying to say here. You certainly did imply that reading the article wasnt worthwhile. “Please educate yourself”? What does this mean?

by alskor on Oct 5, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

um

did you read the post I responded to AT ALL?
I was trying to mirror it… hence the “please educate yourself”

by nms on Oct 5, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So?

The fact that Lee faced inferior competition means that he can’t be the Cy winner?

by Dfarth on Oct 3, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love Halladay

I am a HUGE Halladay fan but in reality Lee deserves the Cy Young. He had an unbelievable season. Do I think he will ever repeat it? Not a chance. This guy is likely the next Estaban Loiaza but I have to give him credit as he deserves the Cy Young this season.

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Oct 3, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give Lee his due

I’m a Jays fan and while I agree with the article (which all it really says is that the race should be a lot closer than it will be), I would still hand the award to Lee. The argument can go both ways. While Halladay has faced stiffer competition, he’s also had a better defense behind him and played in a more of a pitcher’s park. While I think that few people would rather take Lee over the long haul than Halladay, Lee had the better year so it’s his award (which is a yearly award and not a career award).

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by parrot11 on Oct 3, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cliff Lee

No question.

Never, Never, NEVER give up

by hero66 on Oct 3, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow

thanks for that incredible insight ;)

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Oct 3, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Halladay was awesome this year

as was Lee. It’s really close call. I voted Halladay, but I Lee will probably win the award. He is fully deserving.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 4, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

HUH?

If he deserves the award why didn’t you vote for him? That doesn’t make any sense but I doubt any explanation would either.

by casejud on Oct 4, 2008 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He thinks Halladay and Lee are both fully deserving. It’s not that hard to comprehend.

by assorted small objects on Oct 4, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure

I guess, my bad

by casejud on Oct 5, 2008 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I voted Lee

Halladay had a great year too. Too much has been made of peripherals and their competition/divisions. Too little has been made of the fact that Lee gave up 68 runs in 223.1 IP while Doc gave up 88 runs in 246 IP. 2.74 RA to 3.22. That’s a substantial difference that isnt made up by the mitigating factors people keep bringing up, IMHO.

Either one would be a good choice, and I certainly dont feel either one would be robbed were the award given to the other… but I would say Lee has been the best pitcher in the league this year.

by alskor on Oct 4, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Halladay and Lee have nearly identical VORP, yet Cliff is winning the vote 3-1. No doubt media attention and other peripheral stuff like that is the difference.

Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/

by ejruiz on Oct 4, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs