I’m surprised his name hasn’t come up. Is he untouchable?

I think if a deal gets done, at least Escobar or Kelly Johnson will get dealt. The Braves seem to believe in Prado magic.

I think Hanson’s flyball tendencies in Petco would be sick – he might be another Chris Young.

is under a very under market value for the next 5 years… I covered this on my blog…. www.fanalytic.com recently.

Also mlb trade rumors had some links that said the padres were looking for 2 young pitchers and a near mlb ready CFer…. I am sure a guy like heyward would interest them despite his lack of being in a CFer.

I think Hanson, Flowers and either Shafer or Heyward is the starting point. I am reading that the Padres want more of a MLB ready CF, which makes Shafer more appealing. But we all know Heyward has more upside (and more time to bust as well). And if the Padres insist that Atlanta takes Greene to get the deal done, I think Lillibridge will go to San Diego as well. But Atlanta taking on Greene’s contract will likely give them a small bargaining chip in trying to make sure that it is Shafer and not Heyward that they send.

Peavy & Greene
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Shafer, Hanson, Flowers, Lillibridge, and maybe a small time C+ type of prospect might get it done.

I think the Braves have the minor league talent to land Peavy and the price tag will include 1 of the 3 you want to make untouchable.

Now, should the Braves go after Peavy? That i’m not so sure about.

i dont understand why people are so against trading prospects for proving big leaguers.
if i was in the financial position to do so, i would do it EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Not a Kazmir-Victor Zambrano idiot move, but a trade like Jason Heyward for Jake Peavy. Are you kidding me? Where do I sign up?
In hindsight, how does it look that the Yankees wouldn’t trade Hughes or Kennedy for Santana last winter? I argued it then as I will now, you trade the guys who “could be” for the guys who “already are” every time.

I like Heyward a lot as a prospect, but the dude is 19 years old. There’s no such thing as a can’t miss player. Remember the last seriously hyped can’t miss OF, his name was Delmon Young. Hey, how’s that working out? Would you have traded Delmon Young for Jake Peavy? I sure as hell would have.
Look at what the Rays did. They traded him for Matt Garza, who isn’t in the same league talent wise as Peavy (no knock against Garza), and they are in the ALCS now knocking on the door to the World Series. Sure Garza is not the only reason, but he was a big part of what they did this year.
If I was the Braves, I’d give them whoever they wanted to land Peavy. He’s a battle tested ACE pitcher, and they are harder to come by then anything else in baseball.

i understand that prospects are cost controlled. I also understand that pitchers are more prone to injury, but that also includes young pitchers like Hughes or Clay Buchholz, two of the players named in Santana rumors that were “untouchable.” I’d rather have a guy like Peavy who has been in the league since 2002 then an unknown prospect. And most of the teams that are gunning for Peavy are not going to be in a situation where they can’t afford him, that was another reason why I didn’t mention it.

Also, there aren’t many Evan Longoria’s. Go back to say 2002 and look at the Top 100 prospect lists. How many of those guys became actual stars? Let me check out the top 25 for shits and giggles:

1. Josh Beckett, rhp, Marlins – star
2. Mark Prior, rhp, Cubs – was good when healthy, is never healthy
3. Hank Blalock, 3b, Rangers – an ok player, not a superstar
4. Sean Burroughs, 3b, Padres – bust
5. Carlos Pena, 1b, Athletics – above average i’d say
6. Juan Cruz, rhp, Cubs – good middle man but not a star
7. Joe Mauer, c, Twins – all star
8. Wilson Betemit, ss, Braves – bust
9. Drew Henson, 3b, Yankees – super bust
10. Mark Teixeira, 3b, Rangers – star
11. Austin Kearns, of, Reds – average OF
12. Joe Borchard, of, White Sox – bust
13. Nick Johnson, 1b, Yankees – decent when healthy, never healthy
14. Ryan Anderson, lhp, Mariners – bust injured
15. Angel Berroa, ss, Royals – bust
16. Dennis Tankersley, rhp, Padres – bust
17. Nick Neugebauer, rhp, Brewers – bust injured
18. Josh Hamilton, of, Devil Rays – star took the long way
19. Jerome Williams, rhp, Giants – bust
20. Brandon Phillips, ss, Expos – same as hamilton
21. Justin Morneau, 1b, Twins – star
22. Casey Kotchman, 1b, Angels – decent 1B, not a star but above average
23. Jon Rauch, rhp, White Sox – decent middle man
24. Carlos Hernandez, lhp, Astros – bust
25. Ty Howington, lhp, Reds – bust

as you can see, its less than a 50/50 bet, actually it’s not even close to 50/50. So maybe if you are absolutely convinced that Heyward will develop the power and become a superstar, then you don’t trade him. BUT to me, all things equal, I’d always take the established guy over the prospect. Of course I’m not running the Marlins here, every situation is different. But all the teams who will trade for Peavy will be able to afford him. The only reason you trade for a Jake Peavy is because you think you’re close to winning a World Series, and to me, he’s a Top 3 pitcher in the game and I’d give prospects all day to land him. I’m not a fan of trading a Heyward type for anyone, but an elite SP with an affordable contract I’d absolutely be interested in.