Community Prospect #68

by Brickhaus on Jan 31, 2008 8:15 AM EST Comment 20 comments

Brent Lillibridge takes the last one...

LIST

1. Jay Bruce OF CIN
2. Evan Longoria 3B TB
3. Colby Rasmus OF STL
4. Clay Buchholz RHP BOS
5. Clayton Kershaw LHP LAD
6. Joba Chamberlain RHP NYY
7. Cameron Maybin OF FLA
8. Homer Bailey RHP CIN
9. David Price LHP TB
10. Andy LaRoche 3B LAD
11. Jacob McGee LHP TB
12. Johnny Cueto RHP CIN
13. Travis Snider OF TOR
14. Brandon Wood 3B/SS CAL
15. Matt Wieters C BAL
16. Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
17. (T) Joey Votto 1B CIN
17. (T) Andrew McCutchen OF PIT
19. Wade Davis RHP TB
20. (T) Chase Headley 3B SD
20. (T) Reid Brignac SS TB
22. Daric Barton 1B OAK
23. Rick Porcello RHP DET
24. Franklin Morales LHP COL
25. Jeff Clement C SEA
26. Matt LaPorta OF/1B MIL
27. Mike Moustakas SS KC
28. Chris Marrero OF WAS
29. Fernando Martinez OF NYM
30. Matt Antonelli 2B SD
31. Desmond Jennings OF TB
32. Carlos Gonzalez OF OAK
33. Jason Heyward OF ATL
34. Fautino de los Santos RHP OAK
35. Jed Lowrie SS BOS
36. Angel Villalona 3B SF
37. Gio Gonzalez LHP OAK
38. Ian Kennedy RHP NYY
39. Carlos Triunfel SS SEA
40. Steven Pearce 1B/OF PIT
41. Jordan Schafer OF ATL
(Kosuke Fukudome OF CHC)
42. Adam Miller RHP CLE
43. Nick Adenhart RHP CAL
44. Wladimir Balentien OF SEA
45. Austin Jackson OF NYY
46. Eric Hurley RHP TEX
47. Jose Tabata OF NYY
48. Geovany Soto C CHC
49. Lars Anderson 1B BOS
50. Chin-Lung Hu SS LA
51. Chris Davis 3B TEX
52. Luke Hochevar RHP KC
53. Jarrod Parker RHP ARI
54. Taylor Teagarden C TEX
55. Manny Parra LHP MIL
56. Deolis Guerra RHP NYM
57. Neil Walker 3B PIT
58. Josh Vitters 3B CHC
59. Ross Detwiler LHP WAS
60. Hank Conger C LAA
61. Elvis Andrus SS TEX
62. Ian Stewart 3B COL
63. Jordan Walden RHP LAA
64. Michael Burgess OF WAS
65. JR Towles C HOU
66. Brett Anderson RHP OAK
67. Brent Lillibridge SS ATL

CANDIDATES:
Bill Rowell 3B BAL
James McDonald RHP LA
Beau Mills 1B/3B CLE
Tim Alderson LHP SFG
Jair Jurrjens RHP ATL
Justin Masterson RHP BOS
Daniel Cortes RHP KCR
Gorkys Hernandez OF ATL
Oscar Tejada SS BOS
"Other"

MORE CANDIDATES - PITCHERS
Radhames Liz (4/64), Anthony Swarzak (3/67), Cole Rohrbough (3/64), Alan Horne (3/64), Carlos Carrasco (3/62), Jaime Garcia (2/66), Hiroki Kuroda (1/59), Jeremy Jeffress (1/67), Jeremy Hellickson (0/59), Will Inman (0/59), Matt Latos (0/66), Max Scherzer (0/49), Jeff Niemann, Troy Patton, Scott Elbert, Michael Bowden, Chris Volstad, Matt Harrison, Brad Lincoln, Chuck Lofgren, Collin Balester, Sean Gallagher, Greg Reynolds, Jeff Manship, Donald Veal, Bryan Morris, Nick Hagadone, Brett Cecil, Joe Savery, James Simmons, Jordan Zimmermann, Clayton Mortensen, Brett Sinkbeil, Chris Mason, Wilmer Font
Aaron Poreda (4/65), Chris Tillman (1/49c), Trevor Cahill, Kasey Kiker, Tony Butler, Michael Main, Omar Poveda, Neftali Feliz, Dellin Betances, Tommy Hanson, Tyler Robertson, Henry Sosa, Brandon Erbe, Kyle Drabek, Jeff Locke, Blake Beavan, Phillippe Aumont, Madison Bumgarner, Matt Latos, Josh Smoker, Chris Withrow, Dan Duffy, Julio Teheran
Jon Meloan, Casey Weathers, Dan Moskos, Chris Perez, Eduardo Morlan, Felipe Paulino del Guidice, Kevin Mulvey, Wade LeBlanc,
MORE CANDIDATES - HITTERS
Dexter Fowler (7/67), Tyler Colvin (4/65), Chris Nelson (1/61), Brandon Jones (0/58), Mat Gamel (1/63), Wes Hodges, Todd Frazier, Jordan Brown, Drew Stubbs, Nolan Reimold, Bryan Anderson, Aaron Cunningham, Nate Schierholtz, Kellen Kulbacki, Justin Maxwell, Max Ramirez, Kyle Blanks, Josh Rodriguez, Michael Bourn, Tony Thomas Jr, Brandon Hicks
Nick Weglarz, Ryan Kalish, Matt Sweeney, Hector Gomez (1/61), Jesus Montero (1/60), Adrian Cardenas, Gerardo Parra, Cedric Hunter, Nick Noonan, Oscar Tejeda, Kevin Ahrens, Matt Dominguez, Devin Mesoraco, Will Middlebrooks, Wendell Fairley, Andrew Lambo, Ben Revere, Neftali Soto, Engel Beltre, Fernando Perez

Poll

Who is the #68 Prospect?

Bill Rowell

29 votes

James McDonald

21 votes

Beau Mills

29 votes

Tim Alderson

13 votes

Jair Jurrjens

15 votes

Justin Masterson

10 votes

Daniel Cortes

11 votes

Gorkys Hernandez

8 votes

Oscar Tejada

3 votes

Other (Please specify)

5 votes

144 votes | Poll has closed

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Thanks Brickhaus

for putting Tejada on this poll.
I cant wait to see how much people are underestimating him.

by team name deleted on Jan 31, 2008 9:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Other-

Kiker. I thought he had enough support on the last one to get on this one.

by rothe on Jan 31, 2008 10:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Other

Yeah i think i may go with Kiker aswell

Batting practice tomorrow you be there....I have Pop, everyday

by laxtonto on Jan 31, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll have him

on the next one. People had been pressing for the other ones on as well.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 31, 2008 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I still enjoy this list for what it is, but....

A month ago, I posted this on one of the old Community Prospect list and I think it was true then and very true now.

Group think bias ?
I'd love to see these votes come with a disclosure if you own the player in a fantasy league. This list seems a bit more static than many of the top prospect lists I've seen. My guess is, when a player gets hyped on this site, he probably also gets picked up by many of us. A disproportionate number of votes are then cast for those players despite performance. We all want to feel good about our roster so we vote for our guys. This list, imo, is peppered with both, guys that probably should have fallen to the back half of the top 100 and guys that are not yet worthy of the top tier. Just a thought.

Your thoughts?

by my dixie wrecked on Jan 31, 2008 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

+1

I agree with this sentiment a lot. I think a lot of people are voting for players on their fantasy teams and favorite teams.

But the question remains... are they voting for people on their fantasy team to make their team look better, or did they acquire the player because they really feel that confident in them? Chicken or the egg?

By the way, I voted for Jair Jurrjens again this poll. I do not have him on my sim team (I am in only one league) but I did try to acquire him about a month ago. So it would have been a case of me trying to get him because I think he will be good, and that's also why I am voting for him.

"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile

by Boxkutter on Jan 31, 2008 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

this list seems pretty different that others

i've seen. look at goldstein's list, for example.

by larry on Jan 31, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well

that list is one way, other lists will be other ways.
What I do at the end of these lists is put myself a spreadsheet together and average every player out, so that I can get an average of the lists...
I am not saying that that is what you must do, but if you feel that any list is missing some one part, make your own list.
This is a community list and the community is what is driving the polls here, so vote every poll and state your case and maybe your guys will get on there somewhere.

by team name deleted on Jan 31, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm confused

was this supposed to be addressed to me? if so, why?

by larry on Jan 31, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes you...

you asked why they were soo different... rather, you implied you were concerned at why they were soo different.
If you wanna see different, just look at ESPN's new list: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3221365&action=l ogin&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist% 3dlaw_keith%26id%3d3221365

Talk about different...
I can't even begin to comment on some of these guys.

by team name deleted on Jan 31, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i did no such thing

there isn't even a question mark in my post. the guy said this list was static. i said it seemed pretty different from other lists (including last year's), like the one released by goldstein today. argue with someone else.

by larry on Jan 31, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

it is a joke he is not listed yet

by dlpme77 on Jan 31, 2008 11:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Jokes

I think it is ignorant to say that this list is a joke just because a player you feel needs to be on the list is not.
There are only 100 spots on a top 100 list, and I know for a fact I think that there are 120 names I want to put on that list, but someone is gonna get left off.
If you feel that a player should be on, put his name in a comment and back up your player with some stats, comparisons, or projections from a credible site.
Thanks

by team name deleted on Jan 31, 2008 11:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

+1

It's not like there are any no-brainers left at this point, and frankly, there's very little separation between #50 and #150. If you really think someone deserves to be on, back it up in the comments.

As for Jones specifically, I can see why people might not be that high on a 24 year old who only had a .814 OPS in the International League. That's about 80 points lower than, say, Justin Ruggiano at the same age with a similar skill set. Yes, Jones is more toolsy than Ruggiano, but I doubt anyone would be pressing for Ruggiano to be on the list even if we went to 200 instead of 100.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 31, 2008 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jones

I think that Jones is a bit early... On my personal list, Jones did not make the top 100. On his own team, there are even 2 better players not on the list yet in Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez.
Not saying Jones isn't a superior athlete, and BA had him at #4 on their rankings, http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/265139.html,
but I think Jones is another season from cracking the top 100.

by team name deleted on Jan 31, 2008 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs