Interesting Young Players
I want to make a list of Interesting Young Players who are no longer rookies technically, but who are still young and/or unproven. I have a couple of different ideas of what to do with such a list, what to use it for, but the first step is to make the list. I'd argue that such a list should include no one who has more than one year of experience.
Let's see....guys that would interest me.
Alex Gordon
Delmon Young
Adam Jones
Jarrod Saltalamacchia
Asdrubal Cabrera
Justin Upton
Who else?
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as a white sox fan
by larry on Jan 26, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lessee
You didn't list any pitchers, but to me Owings, Hughes, Andrew Miller, Dice-K, Gallardo and Danks would be at the top. I am omitting Lincecum because I think this community already has its mind made up on his future.
John, you said only one full year of experience, does Lastings Milledge work? I believe he has less than 500 AB's, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on him.
by drwmsu1 on Jan 26, 2008 12:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
(+1)^3
by TigerFanInCleveland on Jan 26, 2008 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hermida
by Jgaztambide on Jan 26, 2008 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Miller and Gallardo
by MHD on Jan 26, 2008 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Matt Garza
by auclairkeithbc on Jan 26, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andy Marte
I'd also second Hermida and Mark Reynolds.
Here's an unusual one: Rick Ankiel.
by FI2 on Jan 26, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a conincidence
by bobbymcnally on Jan 26, 2008 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Looking at Marte's minor league numbers the other day I was kinda surprised to lok again with fresh eyes and see a guy who couldnt hit .290 even at lower levels. In other words everybody will point him out as a guy who didnt live up to his tools if he fails instead of considering the possibility that he just wasn't good enough.
by casejud on Jan 26, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't very big on Marte
by Yoda on Jan 27, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like you, I too had my doubts on Marte,
Hello Yoda,
Regarding the attitude part, I just read a report recently (don't remember where, but I think it was based on a credible source - Cleveland Plain Dealer, perhaps,) that Marte's attitude in the Winter League hasn't been that good, and likewise, his performance in the Winter League hasn't been that good either, batting just .198/.313/.260, 30 G/96 AB/6 2B/0 HR/12 RBI/14 BB/29 K, according to MinorLeagueBaseball's profile page.
For me, Marte is starting to get into the category of Michael Aubrey in the sense that "anything we can get from him will be considered a bonus." In Aubrey's situation, it's due to a constant string of injuries and lack of consistent playing time; in Marte's situation, it's not really excelling at the Minor League level for any extended length of time and not taking advantage of the limited opportunities he's had to this point, and granted, he hasn't had many chances to this point, but conversely, he has not forced the Indians to keep him in their immediate plans to this point either. Blake's extended period of solid play both offensively and defensively in 2007 is the main reason Marte was kept at AAA Buffalo, and Marte didn't really light it up at AAA Buffalo to force the Indians to reconsider their decision, outside of one hot month (July or August - can't remember which, but I believe he hit 4 HRs and had something like 21 RBIs if I remember correctly.)
That's been the main problem with Marte in my opinion - he shows flashes of great power and offense, but can't stay consistently solid throughout, going through extended dry spells. On top of that, his defense has been more erratic than you'd expect from someone who was reported to be a plus defender.
One thing is pretty well for certain regarding Marte in the 2008 season - this will likely be his final chance to impress the Indians and deliver on the potential he was reported to have when he was acquired from Boston in the Marte-Crisp (and others) deal. Marte is out of options beginning this season, which is a main reason why Marte will begin in Cleveland as a backup to Blake. In addition, with 3B prospects Wes Hodges likely starting at AA Akron and Beau Mills likely starting at High-A Kinston, Marte does not have much time and leeway left to impress the Indians and show he can be the future starter at 3B for the next several seasons.
Just my 2 cents. :-)
Take care and have a great day!
by indiansfan on Jan 27, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson Betemit
by RollingWave on Jan 27, 2008 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by drob320 on Jan 27, 2008 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
amen to MARTE and HERMIDA
by zingtrain on Jan 30, 2008 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Others to consider
Pitchers to consider: Gavin Floyd, Jon Lester and Jered Weaver
by bryeic on Jan 26, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Young
by favrerocks on Jan 26, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How about
Carlos Quentin
John Danks
by Terry Ryan Jr on Jan 26, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Adam Lind
Shaun Marcum
by Jdog on Jan 26, 2008 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On the subject of Blue Jays
And even though they technically don't count, how about Ervin Santana, Dustin McGowan, John Danks and Rick Ankiel?
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 27, 2008 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That Tim guy.....
by bluechipper on Jan 26, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yessir
by z4 landshark on Jan 26, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Travis Buck
by killa on Jan 26, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I second the Buck nomination
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another one...
by BOSMike on Jan 26, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would
by themurph on Jan 26, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All the guys you listed would be great
by nyy601 on Jan 26, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tony Abreu
by CanuckDodger on Jan 26, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
List
Yovani Gallardo
Ryan Braun
Phil Hughes
Hunter Pence
by gmonsen on Jan 26, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Others
Hitters - Erick Aybar, Matt Kemp, James Loney, Kevin Kouzmanoff (which necessarily involves a discussion on Chase Headley), Seth Smith, Rickie Weeks, Hunter Pence, Felix Pie
by NYCRoyal on Jan 26, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Liriano again
After, ???
by bodyiq on Jan 26, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seth Smith
by sg8335aa on Jan 28, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
chin lung-hu and andy laroche
by NYCRoyal on Jan 26, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Those two are...
by RollingWave on Jan 27, 2008 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my list
Full disclosure: I like one of them a lot more than the other, whom I made my pick in the most-overrated thread here, back when. But both fascinate me.
by wcw on Jan 26, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know he's been in the bigs for a while
by thefordhamflash on Jan 26, 2008 3:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Milledge
by rwperu34 on Jan 26, 2008 4:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Miller
Andrew Miller
Craig Hansen
Dennis Sarfate
Nick Masset
I'd love to see the Mariners get Sonnanstine and now he is behind a ton of you TB prospects.
by snuffy on Jan 26, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Kubel!
by DJSkillz on Jan 26, 2008 4:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Some more
Rick Ankiel (Does he count?)
Carlos Marmol
Felix Pie
Maicer Izturis
Brandon Morrow
Kevin Kouzmanoff
Rickie Weeks
Dan Ortmeier
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Weeks
by drwmsu1 on Jan 26, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize.
Weeks seems like a great guy to look at for something like this. Especially after his very interesting 2007.
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I also didnt realize
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Izturis
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
Aaron Laffey
Carlos Quentin
Kurt Suzuki
Travis Buck
Adam Lind
Jon Lester (barely qualifies?)
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, willie harris?
as for whether he's any good, no. look at his BABIP from the first half of last year and you'll know how he achieved his almost average season.
by larry on Jan 26, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BJ Upton
How much room is there for growth?
by tricer on Jan 26, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Upton
Some solid minor league numbers, on top of a hometown belonging to David Wright and being a brother of a top prospect. He is a great player and a great athlete and a future star. But yes John should definitely give his input.
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He may not have been as good
by elrey34 on Jan 26, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could people please quit parroting...
by butkussayers on Jan 27, 2008 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the unsustainable BABIP
Nobody is denying he's excellent and will only get much better.
by elrey34 on Jan 27, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I undestand
by butkussayers on Jan 27, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe too much?
I expect Drew to be a top 10 SS in MLB by next year.
by Savoy on Jan 26, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Hirsh
Lester
Hermida
Kendrick
Suzuki
Pedroia
Andrew Miller
by laughlin on Jan 26, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Flores
by doubledribble on Jan 26, 2008 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meh
But still the Mets were fools to let him go.
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 26, 2008 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Iannetta
by okbluejays on Jan 26, 2008 6:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually
he also hit .258/.355/.409 after the all star break (albeit in 66 abs).
not great, but respectable numbers for a catcher.
I wouldn't give up on him yet (although it appeared the Rockies may have last year).
by DenverBears on Jan 28, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded on Weeks...
I like Hermida as well, but don't really see how he's any better than Kubel. I like both as sleepers on this list.
by DJSkillz on Jan 26, 2008 6:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kendry morales
by goggles pisano on Jan 26, 2008 6:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how about....
Ian Stewart
Travis Buck
by kashman on Jan 26, 2008 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Adam Loewen?
by willthompson on Jan 26, 2008 7:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
by NYCRoyal on Jan 26, 2008 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Chris Nelson--ready to bust out in a big way?
Kasey Kiker- top pitching arm in draft a cple years ago...will he make a "Jake McGee" type climb on the prospect charts this year?
by LipstickOnDipstick on Jan 26, 2008 8:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guys *in the majors*
by Brickhaus on Jan 26, 2008 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jo-Jo Reyes
by was385 on Jan 26, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Slowey and Glen Perkins
by Lonestar14 on Jan 26, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For me there is a couple
Homer Bailey is intriguing but he's still a rookie but
Edison Volquez is interesting. He has a live arm and he's going to be 25 this year. I wouldn't be surprise if he has a good year but also wouldn't be surprise if he had a terrible one as well.
by NYYLover1000 on Jan 26, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Young and Unproven
Anyone else feel the same way?
by drwmsu1 on Jan 26, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hear hear!
by fargocraig1971 on Jan 28, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More....
Miguel Montero - how good can/will he be?
Franklin Morales - can he be an NL-Liriano?
Eric Patterson - outfield? infield? potential offensively?
Geovany Soto
I know Matt Murton doesn't really apply, but wondering how good he could be if someone actually gave him an opportunity to play full-time
by nzach54 on Jan 26, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1 on Miguel Montero
by FlipYrWhig on Jan 27, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Devine
by J Michael Neal on Jan 27, 2008 3:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin Morales
by sg8335aa on Jan 28, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hong Chih Kuo and Chin-Hui Tsao
by RollingWave on Jan 27, 2008 12:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's a really good one
Everyone is looking past this kid. I really think that this guy is going to open some eyes this year.
by Jay212033 on Jan 27, 2008 12:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Haven't heard a word on...
by butkussayers on Jan 27, 2008 1:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I second that motion
He can touch 97, his 83 curveball is unhittable at times, and his changeup at 87 is like a sinker.
In September, he allowed a lot of hits, but he definitely improved. I'd love to see John's opinion.
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 27, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John...
by butkussayers on Jan 27, 2008 1:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes
by John Sickels on Jan 27, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes...
by butkussayers on Jan 27, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Daric Barton
by ebradley on Jan 27, 2008 4:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Most of the Dodgers
James Loney
Matt Kemp
Chad Billingsley
Andy LaRoche
Tony Abreu
Chin-lung Hu
Just watch out! The top four have finally made it to the starting positions, to join Russell Martin and Andre Ethier, one year further in. The bottom two have had considerable playing time, and will get more. And too bad we lost Wilson Betemit, but did get Proctor(one year further in) in return.
by berkowit28 on Jan 27, 2008 5:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ya i like
and miguel montero
what ever happend with him? haha
az never gunna give him a chance i guess
and lind is a nice nomination as well
by manny59 on Jan 27, 2008 6:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone In Joe Torre's Dog House
by ChrisLDuncan on Jan 27, 2008 6:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hanley Ramirez
by Bravesin07 on Jan 27, 2008 8:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Elijah Dukes
How about Chris Ianetta?
by asinwreck on Jan 27, 2008 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Iannetta...
Personally, I think people have written him off a bit too quickly. He had a bad (horrible) first month and then wasn't given much of a chance after that. By comparison, Tulowitzki was horrible for most of the first month and then was given the chance to turn it around.
by DenverBears on Jan 27, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Twins Rotation
by JopeX37 on Jan 27, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy Sowers
by willthompson on Jan 27, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Saltalphabet
by Rangers Farmhand on Jan 27, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Since the parameters are loose
Volquez - who may have got the double whammy of being traded away from a rotation spot and to a less favourable park
Iwamura - I did some research on power drop-offs for Japanese hitters. A I should have hit 18 HRs not 7. His oblique injury, or just bad research?
Hamilton - Talk about human interest
by Yoda on Jan 27, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
MY ENTIRE LIST including many above
Shawn Hill
Elijah Dukes
Lastings Milledge
Travis Buck
Kurt Suzuki
Jesse Litsch
Shawn Marcum
Adam Lind
Yunel Escobar
Joey Devine
Jo-Jo Reyes (50.2!)
Rickie Weeks (IDC about the limits a .235/.374/.433 MLB line needs more investigating)
Rick Ankiel
Felix Pie
Miguel Montero
Matt Kemp
Andy Marte
Brandon Morrow
Jeremy Hermida (A whole lot of potential but shaky in his short career so far)
Mike Pelfrey
Adam Loewen
Kevin Kouzmanoff
JD Durbin
Joakim Soria
Kason Gabbard (yet to have been mentioned)
Matt Garza
Manny Corpas
Francisco Liriano
Carlos Quentin
by METSMETSMETS on Jan 27, 2008 4:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Henricus
by BobbyMac on Jan 28, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
James Loney
Butch
by dgrimes248 on Jan 28, 2008 8:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Denforia
Guys I'd like to discuss in more detail include:
Felix Pie
Lastings Milledge - what will become?
Elijah Dukes - see Milledge.
Kurt Suzuki
Ben Francisco - will anyone ever give him a serious look?
Wilson Betemit - ditto. Looks like he could become a productive 3B.
Dallas Braden - Destined for 4A-dom?
Andy Marte - biggest disappointment since ...
by RyanFromBonas on Jan 28, 2008 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Post All Star Break Stats
.340/.401/.555 956 OPS with 10 HR in 256 AB.
Should be a big year for this guy who has been mentioned quite a bit in this post.
by bucklin12 on Jan 28, 2008 3:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Young CFers
Hunter Pence
Felix Pie
Adam Jones
Lastings Milledge
Elijah Dukes
by CubbieBlue66 on Jan 29, 2008 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guys I find interesting
Kurt Suzuki
Chris Young
Hunter Pence
Howie Kendrick
Santiago Casilla
Corey Hart
And no one's mentioned Joel Zumaya?
by nothinlikethetown on Jan 29, 2008 3:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Matt Kemp
by MFBabyFeets1 on Jan 29, 2008 8:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Wood
by dwill66 on Jan 30, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
buy the book. :)
by BobbyMac on Jan 31, 2008 3:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs









