Velocity Matters
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=705
This is an excellent blog post from BA. The cliff's notes are;
When rating a pitching prospect, velocity isn't the only thing, but it matters.
Seven different pitchers have a peak velocity of 100MPH or more. Of those, two did it in the high minors. I'm sure nobody is suprised to see Joba Chamberlain on the list. You might not have expected Felipe Paulino to have hit 102MPH!
I'd say the five best prospects on that list are Paulino, Chamberlain, Kershaw, McGee, and Scherzer.
Once again I am reminded how funky Jeff Samardzija's career has been. 98MPH with a measly 4.1 K/9 in 2007?
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I feel like
by sagecoll on Jan 25, 2008 5:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Paulino?
by Dfarth on Jan 25, 2008 8:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Velocity Matters
by Lunkwill Fook on Jan 25, 2008 8:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Velocity does matter
Movement is another vital part but few have really figured out how to obtain it and Maddux is one of them.
by shakezula on Jan 25, 2008 9:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not long
If Poreda really hit 100 as a lefty, I'm going to have to start driving that train. I also wonder where Font falls into the Texas top 10.
by Brickhaus on Jan 25, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Control, or lack thereof
"During the 1960s under Earl Weaver, then the manager for the Orioles' double-A affiliate in Elmira, New York, his game began to show improvement. Weaver had given all of the players an IQ test and discovered that Dalkowski had a lower than normal IQ. Armed with this knowledge, it became apparent why Dalkowski had had such difficulty keeping his game under control: he did not have the mental capacity. Weaver kept things simple for Dalkowski, telling him to only throw the fastball and a slider, and to just aim the fastball down the middle of the plate. This allowed him to concentrate on just throwing the ball for strikes; Weaver knew that not only was his fastball practically unhittable no matter where it was in the strike zone, but that if Dalkowski missed his target, he might just end up throwing it on the corners for a strike anyway. Under Weaver's leadership, he had his best season in 1962."
You almsot have to wonder what could've been if he hadn't gotten hurt, though.
by drjayphd on Jan 25, 2008 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dalkowski Jr
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Mark-McGinn.shtml
Career minor league stats:
37 IP, 32 hits, 61 BB, 24 WP
by HuskerBob on Jan 29, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ERA Matters
by DrBGiantsfan on Jan 25, 2008 10:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just to clarify it...
For whatever reason Zambrano's at least it wrong, but it works for most others.
by grozzy on Jan 25, 2008 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To Further Clarify
Erick Threets- 6.67, High A.
Colt Griffin- 5.36, Low A.
Bobby Jenkd- 4.82, High A, 4.66 AA.
Sean Henn- DNP? No stats listed on thebaseballcube.com for 2002.
Ben Howard- 2.18 AA, 6.20 AAA, 9.28 MLB.
Brandon League- 3.15, SS.
Seth McClung- 2.92 High A, 5.37 AA.
Francisco Rodriquez- 1.96 AA, 2.57 AAA.
Carlos Zambrano- 3.66 MLB.
Aaron Cook- 1.42 AA, 3.78 AAA.
Brad Lidge- 2.45 AA, 3.39 AAA.
Nick Neugebauer- 5.12 AAA, 4.72 MLB.
Anthony Pluta- 5.92, Low A
Comments:
- I'm not sure this list is very good evidence that having 100 MPH heat is all that predictive of future success. There are some good pitchers on this list, but more mediocre and bad ones.
- Velocity has to translate into success on the field even at an early career stage in order to project future success. Performance matters!
by DrBGiantsfan on Jan 25, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Forget Matt Anderson
by The Congo Hammer on Jan 25, 2008 12:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well its not like
by nms on Jan 25, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see
Over the past couple of years, that seems to be something that pops out.
Prototypical new age 6'3 to 6'4 guy that throws 96? Other stuff gets the same ratings as the rest of the guys out there. One other pitch MLB pitch, another needs some work, etc. Tough time most of the time. 5'11-6' guy's throwing 94-96? better results. 6'8 guy throwing 95? better results. Anecdotal and other factors. Someone here said look for one REALLY good thing to help filter. I do that and also look at size a little too.
It would seem to make sense that it has to do with the angle of the plane the hitter typically sees from everyone else. And his expectations for how it is going to look coming in to him. Dovetails a little into deception maybe. But Pedro was Pedro not just because he threw 99, but because he was short and throwing 99 (as well as that wicked change and all the other stuff). Same for Randy. Command and control have to be there obviously. I just think that high speed 100 or so from 6'3 isn't as 'good' as 100 from 6'1 or 6'8 due to lack of others doing the same (granted not too many others doing 100 at all, but hopefully you get my drift).
Just wish I had been able to crack 70. My size would have made all the difference...I know it!
by roaddog on Jan 26, 2008 12:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a point in here
thanks.
by HuskerBob on Jan 29, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I would like to see
by elrey34 on Jan 26, 2008 12:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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