Inside the f'd up mind of Ned Colletti
Many people on this board like to speculate who Ned is and what he's thinking or going to do. Right now, on Dodger Thoughts, there's an excellent interview that covers his plans for the upcoming season -- including thoughts on Andy LaRoche v. Nomar, Ethier v. Pierre, Hu and Abreu's position on the team, Kuo and Greg Miller, Clayton Kershaw, and much much more. You can check it all out here: http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/897243.html
Or, I can give you some extended excerpts:
"Andy and Nomar give us two good options at third base....We're gonna let them figure it out. I think (Andy) is on the verge of being where (James) Loney and (Matt) Kemp were a year ago, where (Andre) Ethier and (Russell) Martin were two years ago. It's time to give him an opportunity to stick with the club and play as much as he earns....Nomar's got the versatility to play some first base as well. James is gonna need a day off here or there....It's probably the first Spring Training where (Andy) has had more than a legitimate chance to make this club. Most of the time a player has to make the club. He's almost gonna have to not make the club. It's a pretty good spot to be in." (interesting here, also, is that he refers to Ethier as being in the class of players like Martin, Kemp and Loney. it's, of course, completely untrue from a talent perspective, but it might suggest that Ethier's not going to be relegated to the bench by Pierre.)
"[I]n LaRoche's case, if he can be productive even part-time, I'd be willing to give him an opportunity to stay. Abreu, due to his versatility in the infield, perhaps the same. ... I think both players may have an opportunity to be here less than full-time."
"We need somebody with Abreu's versatility. We need somebody with (Chin-Lung) Hu's versatility - at least one or the other, if not both"
asked about the possibility of an Ethier-Jones-Kemp outfield (i.e., sitting Pierre): "It's a Joe Torre question, but it's not out of the realm of possibility....I like the competition of it. Nothing wrong with competition. When you have competition, you have a chance to be a better club. Just like at third base. Let the players decide who's gonna play and how often they're gonna play."
On Kershaw: "He's not somebody that we're going to delay his arrival... He may be here before he's completely ready, depending on injuries. But there's still some refinement for him, still some of the finer points of the art of pitching that he's still learning. He's not 20 years old yet. But he's got tremendous ability.""
On Kuo (then Greg Miller): "We had the same hope a year ago, after how he pitched at the end of the '06 season. He's another one that feels fine right now, but we'll have to wait and see. We could use him. We don't have many left-handed pitchers. Greg Miller's another one, another lefthander that's got a chance to make this club."
DeJon Watson on Miller: "He was in Arizona Fall League, and he's healthy. The velocity was back last year - he was anywhere from 92 to 97 (mph) the entire year. The command was the thing we were really trying to harness through the course of the year."
There's also info on Schmidt's recovery, Kershaw talking about his plans to refine his change-up this year (and also discussing command issues), a little talk about the possibility of Kershaw being promoted to the bullpen, and a little more talk on Delwyn Young and Hu making the team.
Anyway, this diary is already pretty massive. But it's a lot of "news." And spring is in the air! Can you feel it?
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Whew
by mckeeno on Jan 17, 2008 9:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey man
by PujolsJunkie on Jan 17, 2008 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool-a-Coo
by mckeeno on Jan 17, 2008 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say
by PujolsJunkie on Jan 17, 2008 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds like an It's-It
by count sutton on Jan 17, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's It
by Sox Puppet on Jan 17, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re:
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 17, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Cool-a-Coo
by JPro on Jan 18, 2008 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
Clayton would look good in Dodger blue, though. maybe Colletti can coax Darren Lewis out of retirement and sign him, too.
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he doesnt trust laroche
by rayver723 on Jan 17, 2008 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3rd base market, you mean?
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also
by npurcell on Jan 17, 2008 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I havn't read the article, but I will...
by cooper7d7 on Jan 17, 2008 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa, interesting
by jpahk on Jan 17, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what happens long term...
would it be tough to pry away any of hu/dejesus/dewitt?
A's have still yet to add any infield prospects, but would it take much to get any of them away as B/C+ prospects?
right now i'm thinking dodgers dont need an blanton/street/ellis/chavez A's best trade chips.
maybe all prospect deal? Simmons/Robnett/Bailey for Dejesus/Dewitt?
by rayver723 on Jan 17, 2008 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
street
by npurcell on Jan 17, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true, what would you give up?
by rayver723 on Jan 17, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
needs
by wily mo on Jan 17, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
question....
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
incomplete
by wily mo on Jan 17, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
by npurcell on Jan 18, 2008 5:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by McLovin on Jan 19, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Fell Mislead
by rwperu34 on Jan 17, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Also, the bit about Miller possibly making the club out of spring - he can't find the strike zone, walking better than 1 an inning. He'll have to have one hell of a spring.
by dodgem on Jan 17, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by marcello on Jan 17, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If a healthy Kemp doesn't get 500 AB
by Galt on Jan 17, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pierre and Nomar
by marcello on Jan 17, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And then
by sharksrog on Jan 18, 2008 4:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
by marcello on Jan 18, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
I care about only one team.
by sharksrog on Jan 20, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup
not that Colletti isn't an idiot sometimes (the last off-season's signings of Pierre, Schmidt and Nomar), but he's not the type of idiot people make him out to be. he's actually (imagine this) aware of the same issues and same prospects that people on this web site are. and he values them.
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so basically
Or
one of Kemp/Ethier and LaRoche will sit, in which case he's just plain retarded.
or
Nomar and LaRoche will get about 300 AB each, and Kemp, Ethier, and Pierre will all get about 300-400 AB each in which case he's wasted a significant amount of money, overvalued "flexibility", and refused to put a consistent lineup.
I would imagine it's going to be largely option C, but since Torre is a "veteran" guy, it's going to be biased towards option B.
by Galt on Jan 17, 2008 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
short-sighted and stupid, yes
also, sitting Ethier isn't "plain retarded." playing Pierre is retarded. but don't mistake Ethier as an above-average left fielder.
honestly, i'm not positive how it will play out. if i had to guess, it'll be 200 at bats for Nomar, 400 for LaRoche (though Nomar being Loney's backup could play into the equation too). i'm way less sure about the outfield, but i'm pretty positive that neither Ethier nor Pierre will significantly cut into Kemp's playing time. also, just worth mentioning -- i love, love, love Kemp for his upside, but his stats from last year really were an illusion. if you want to know someone who's going to Jeff Francouer on everybody, it's Matt Kemp, unless he learned some pitch recognition in the off-season. he's still a good player (and should start over the other two), but i'd temper expectations a little.
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 17, 2008 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kemp
I still say Kemp is LA's best OF right now. Jones may prove me wrong, but he struggled mightily last year despite being in a contract year. If Kemp sits to let Pierre/Ethier get some AB's, then Colleti/Torre made a huge mistake. If it is Ethier sitting though, I have much less of a problem with it.
by guru4u on Jan 18, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodger fan:
Need some help from Dodger fans.
by The Colonel on Jan 17, 2008 7:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Furcal
martin
Loney
Kent
Furcal
LaRoche
Eithier 7
Jones 8
Kemp 9
Of course the disasterous signing of Pierre totall screws up the outfield and contemplating starting the washed up Garciappara doesn't help. Fortunately, try as Ned did, they did not pick up a third baseman. Although Ned could still make that mistake!
by butkussayers on Jan 18, 2008 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hu
Given his age and defensive prowess (or lack thereof), Kent will likely need to be spelled a fair number of games. Also, whichever back-up (Hu or Abreu) makes the majors will take over for Kent when the Dodgers are leading late.
If Abreu makes the majors, Hu will likely start the year at triple-A (and continue playing there until someone gets injured, traded or September -- whichever comes first).
As of 2009, Hu will be their starting shortstop (don't panic if Colletti signs an old, cheap backup for a year or two -- it'll just be because he doesn't like handing positions to rookies without a backup plan). Abreu is likely to play second base long-term, and I don't think DeJesus is a serious threat to take over short.
Personally, I'm not sure what to make of his power. He certainly seems to have gained a lot of it this year, but I don't want to make too much of his short sample in the majors, and his time in the minors is tough to interpret, since it all either happened at a level he was repeating (double-A) or Las Vegas (not a real ballpark). I think it's fair to say he has more power than, say, Cesar Izturis (Keith Law's comp from 2006) -- but how much is tough to say.
by bleedjaxblue on Jan 18, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no Coletti fan
We all know that Torre will give LaRoche the nod over Nomar and Kemp the nod over Pierre. But the kids have to earn it. If I were a Dodger fan, I'd be pretty excited about this team.
by cmathewson on Jan 18, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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