Rookies and Lost Souls

by jumanjifan01 on Jan 16, 2008 5:47 PM EST

I was hoping someone would mention this at some point this offseason, but no one has.

Does anyone else remember the project we embarked on last year where we ranked players who had lost their prospect status, but whose major league fates were still very much up in the air (e.g. Casey Kotchman or Edwin Jackson)?

I think that it can be even more interesting to prospect these kinds of players than actual prospects because there's a ton of volatility. Every great prospect burnout tears up the lower minors, and some continue to succeed all the way to the top, while for others, the success slows down. Who will sink? Who will learn to swim?

I know it would be a lot of work -- and I probably wouldn't want to do it all -- but I thought I'd bring it up. I'd certainly help shaping the list and revising the rules and running a few of the polls. Is there any interest in doing this again?

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ah yes

that was my pet project but i don't think i ever finished it. i'm working on and off on a prospect-list-style ranking of all non-established players. i'll post it when i'm done.

by wily mo on Jan 16, 2008 6:06 PM EST reply actions

watch yourself

non-established prospects are only half the fun. the other half is ranking them against proven guys like chad gaudin and jeremy bonderman, or cole hamels and justin verlander, to really see which organizations have good depth, versus which ones just have good names.

check the link in my signature if this idea interests you.

i've got 10 teams left to evaluate, after which i will rank the entire organizations against each other, and after which i will rank the top 75 pitchers under 25 years old.

ORGANIZATIONAL DEPTH REPORTS (Astros: better than you thought)

variables don't; constants aren't

by overlord on Jan 16, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions

oh sure

i've seen your site. and i'm actually including most of those guys. (hamels, verlander - bonderman has been around so long he didn't occur to me, although now that you bring him up i remember i was going to put him in last year, which caused somebody to yell at me. but you're right about his age. and i think i overlooked gaudin.)

by wily mo on Jan 16, 2008 6:29 PM EST up reply actions