Rays 2010

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2007 8:44 PM EDT Comment 19 comments

Everyone else was doing it so I thought I'd give it a try. This one is a little easier than the other teams because we have a top prospect or young position player at just about every position, but there is still some debate about who will be playing where.

C-Dioner Navarro (has hit well since the ASB so he stays)
1B-Carlos Pena
2B-Akinori Iwamura
3B-Evan Longoria
SS-Reid Brignac
LF-Carl Crawford
RF -Delmon Young
CF-BJ Upton
DH-Elijah Dukes!

Starting rotation:
Scott Kazmir
David Price
Jake McGee
Jamie Shields
Wade Davis

CL-Jeff Niemann
RP-Juan Salas
RP-Edwin Jackson
RP-Mitch Talbot
RP-Chris Mason
RP-Some Lefty

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Rocco!

I wonder what the DRays will do with Baldelli. Upton has shown he can handle CF.

Also, my gut tells me that Dukes wont be on the team by 2010. I dont think we have heard the last of his off-field issues.

by PapaMolina on Aug 27, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Baldelli...

CF for the White Sox next year?

by mateodh on Aug 28, 2007 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where will they put

Pedro Alvarez?

by Bowser on Aug 27, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I see Davis in the bullpen

I think Hellickson will be the 5th starter.

by Bravesin07 on Aug 27, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Q?

And what about Edwin Jackson? He has a 2.8ERA since the ASB. The Rays may have an embarrassment of talent on the pitching staff as well...

by Dfarth on Aug 27, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I personally...

think the league has somewhat figured out James Shields. Well, at least more so than they knew during the 1st half. He might be a back of rotation guy by 2010.

by Havok1517 on Aug 27, 2007 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

cont.

if in the rotation at all on TB.

by Havok1517 on Aug 27, 2007 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shields

I actually agree with Havok on this point. I love Shields, but i have always said i think he is a back of the rotation guy when compared to the other pitchers we have in the organization.

http://tampabaysportsfanatic.blogspot.com/

by deerayfan072 on Aug 28, 2007 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Back of the rotation

is an independent term. Just because he's #4 in my projected rotation, it does not mean I'm projecting him to be what an average #4 starter. He may very well be a #2/3 starter by the leagues standards and be #4 in the Rays rotation just based on what the others are projected to do. Now, will all of these guys reach their ceiling? Certainly not. If they do the Rays may very well win 115 games. But it's highly unrealistic.

When people are saying he's going to be a #4 starter, they are saying they see him as a 4.50-5 ERA guy, which I disagree with. Not where he's ranked within the Rays org.

by Tyler on Aug 28, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

I've watched his past few starts, and he's been dominant.

27.1 IP, 1.98 ERA, 0.99 WHIP, and an ungodly 28 K to 2 BB.

His numbers would look even better if he hadn't gone out for the 9th inning in his last start. He had a shutout going, but allowed a 2-run HR with 1 out in the 9th.

by omambiyick on Aug 27, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, misguided post

He missed by about a month on that theory.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 28, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

huh?

how on earth could you say that given his recent numbers? and that with a whole bunch of his recent starts against elite teams -- the Red Sox, Yanks twice each, Cleveland and Detroit, also.

to me he's had a remarkable year given the competition he faces, the shoddy defense and pen behind him, and the terrific numbers he has, which have gotten better as the season goes on. he had a good rookie year, and a very good sophomore season, with a really fabulous August -- exactly the opposite of what you assert, baselessly.

if a 2.38 ERA and 34 Ks in 34 innings with just 5 walks in August is your definition of figured out, I know a few Cy Young winners who would like be figured out like that.

by scooter on Aug 28, 2007 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't

I love Hellickson, but I don't think he's nearly as good as Davis. Davis has 3 plus pitches, a plus fastball, cutter and a plus curve. He also has a usable change.

J-Hell doesn't have Davis' velocity or curve. Plus, Davis will be ready sometime mid-late next year. Hellickson won't be pitching in the show until at least the middle of 09. That gives Davis a huge advantage going into the 2010 season, having a significant advantage in experience.

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2007 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hellickson reminds me of a young Oswalt

Hellickson pitches 91-93 and his Curve is a plus pitch.

by Bravesin07 on Aug 27, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Davis

Pitches at 92-95 touching 98 and his curve is better.

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So is it safe to assume

That you own Oswalt and Carlos Gomez in your fantasy league...

by Dfarth on Aug 27, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Check that

I mean hellickson...

by Dfarth on Aug 27, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They

got some nice OF prospects that will need to find a home on someone's team.

by Havok1517 on Aug 27, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Desmond Jennings

if anyone is still curious...

from: http://basilsblog.net/2007/08/26/catfish-win-rain-shortened-game-with-savannah/
Dated 8/26

"Oh, the Catfish made a couple of roster moves. Desmond Jennings (2nd on the team batting .315) was placed on the DL, retroactive to August 23. No official word on if he'll make it back to the team this year, but his number (15) was reassigned."

Looks like he's done for the year. He had been battling knee soreness.

by Curtis Pride on Aug 28, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs