Maybin
going... going... GONE off Roger Clemens.
He looks good at the plate so far.
It's still amazing that he went from A+ to MLB within a month without having ridiculous production there.
Thoughts on how he'll do if they let him start for the rest of the season?
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It was a shot
Though
he's a superstar in the making but I'm not sure how much success he can sustain at this level..
I guess .270 6 17
oops
If they let him start for the rest of the season
Clemens should be ejected again
Just because your old A** couldn't get one by a 2 day rookie doesn't mean you have to hit him... it should be a wakeup call that you don't deserve the money your getting..
Clemens should be suspended again for throwing at a batter it couldn't of been more obvious.
Are You Nuts?
I'm not a Clemens fan or anything (nor am I a hater), but your claim is about as crazy as advocating a trade for Ronny Paulino.
by RDoumit41 on Aug 18, 2007 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Clemens is nuts
Not HIT on purpose
That is the definiton of good pitching
by Kanst42 on Aug 18, 2007 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
pitch inside if you want to be a great pitcher
hahaha
quite the improvement over yesterday, probably one of the worst debuts ive seen from a rookie. at least 3 runs he was defensively responsible for because of horrible play in the OF, several stranded at the plate and then running into a ball he bounced off the plate.
by PooNani on Aug 18, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
nah
oh, and he hasn't made it back to the majors since. so for his MLB career he has made 6 outs in 3 PA.
He was clearly still looking....
Hes looking a lot more comfortable after that single on the hit and run. Good call by Leyland to call that.
The homerun was a bomb to center. And he hit it off a splitter which I thought was pretty impressive for him (even though Clemens missed it up by a little bit).
A couple more thoughts:
2.) It looked like, in the 3rd AB, that Clemens/Posada may have found a spot to exploit. He couldnt lay off the high fastball on 0-1 and was clearly going to go after it again on 0-2 until he realized it was coming at him and got beaned. Maybin looked good against lower fastballs and splitters, but I havent seen him against a curve or slider.
You can see the hype though when hes out there. He has all the tools to be an elite player. I really think hes going to be a superstar.
He still has a ways to go though. Expect a long adjustment period with a lot of Ks soon though. If he works through it though, hes going to be awesome.
Re: vlad
by McLovin on Aug 18, 2007 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I explicitly said....
Maybin is very close size-wise to Vlad, though needs to fill out more.
Maybin seems like he can reach out and get to bad balls and still makes contact. I feel like his contact rate will be better as he gets pro experience than he has shows in the minors. Im not saying he will have Vlad-esque contact rates, but I feel like he will hit over or around .300 after hes gone through some adjustments.
Maybin has a high torque swing like Vlad. Maybe that was just today, but it sure looked like it to me today.
Lastly I thought he looked like vlad leaving the box heading to first. I feel like that is because, like Vlad, hes a huge guy with a lot of speed.
Again, they are just my thoughts. Obviously he wont be exactly like Vlad. Players are never exactly like their comparables, but I see a lot of similarities.
+1
by Kanst42 on Aug 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
by McLovin on Aug 19, 2007 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Your not.......
Like you said, this doesn't mean every aspect of Vlad's game, but as far as size, and plate coverage I clearly see it.
This is fun though. It's also great to see the armchair hack scouts who wouldn't shut up about him not being able to hit a ball in the air silenced. Double the pleasure.
by Bondomania on Aug 18, 2007 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I Didn't See His Other AB's...
by Brett Keith on Aug 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks like Pedro Cerrano
Maybin
by dj @ Minor League Ball on Aug 18, 2007 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That is true that...
He looks like he should be able to have plate coverage like Vlad though. Maybe not to that extreme, but he looks like he will be able to get to pitches around, but outside the strike zone and still put a powerful swing into them.
I dont know about Beltran, I just dont see it.
Another thing I noticed that reminded me of Vlad was the way he took off after making contact. He just looked like Vlad leaving the box.
I dont necessarily have as great an eye for this sort of thing as others, but those are just in the notes Ive been taking watching the game.
Just from watching this game
He said "could"
Lets see how Maybin does against Rivera
I agree
Should we all just love Felix, and Upton and Delmon, and never profess any high hopes for a guy outside the top 10?
And it is interesting to see Maybin face Rivera...
Maybin K'd
The 1-1 and 1-2 pitch...
Maybin K'd, but didnt look bad against Rivera. Those were just very good pitches by a very good closer.
Defense
by PooNani on Aug 18, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
My notes (just from watching on Fox...
Maybin:
Fielding blunder: Still looks very nervous. Seems like he wants to make big plays to prove himself. Needs to get comfortable and just play the game. Let the plays come naturally instead of trying to force himself to be able to make a big splash right away. Let his talent take care of him.
AB1: Took a good pitch for a called strike 1. Looked more comfortable at the plate.
Singled through 2B on a hit and run with a 0-1 count. Did a good job of going the other way with a splitter and slapping it through a hole. I like the call for a hit and run there. Knowing Maybin is pressing it was smart to get him to just focus on making contact at all. Hopefully this will relax him at the plate and in the field.
AB2: Took first pitch for a ball. He swung and fouled the ball down the first baseline on pitch 2. On the third pitch he drove the ball deep over the centerfield fence. It again looked like a splitter low in the zone, a little higher than Posada wanted it. Maybin took off out of the box, seeming pretty excited, but I don't know that he knew it was out. That was a bomb though.
NOTE: Maybin has done a very good job about getting to splitters low in the zone. I haven't seen any breaking pitches out of the zone to see if he'll chase them, but he seems to be able to stay on pitches with a lot of downward movement.
AB3: Took first pitch again for a strike. Looks like McClendon really wanted him to relax at the plate. Probably told him to go up there looking to take the first pitch every time. Second pitch is a high fastball that Clemens blows right by him. I get the general feeling that pitchers with good fastballs are going to be able to attack him there effectively for now. If he can adjust though, given his size/strength, he's going to hit some absolutely monster home runs when he gets ahold of those pitches. For now I get the feeling that its going to be a bit of a hole in his swing. Clemens and Posada must have seen it too, because they came back up and in with a fastball on 0-2. Unfortunately for the Yanks, it came in too far and hit Maybin in the wrist for an HBP. Until it started coming too far in, it looked like Maybin wanted it. I get the feeling that high fastball is going to be an issue going forward for him.
Maybe not. In looking at it again, he wasn't far behind it and was pretty on it location-wise with his bat. Im curious to see what happens when pitchers attack him there more.
AB4:
Rivera blew him away. He look that first pitch again for a strike. I feel like its good right now to get him to take his time and do this though it probably isn't helping him much being behind 0-1 each AB. Took the second pitch low and away for ball one. The 1-1 pitch was right on the corner and at the knees and he took for strike 2. Finally Rivera put another 95 mph cutter low and away and Maybin swung through it. Didn't look real bad in the strikeout, the 1-1 and 1-2 pitcher were beautifully placed by Rivera.
great analysis
by The Congo Hammer on Aug 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks...
Pelfry
by wir963 on Aug 18, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
wrong thread
by wir963 on Aug 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Very impressive today.. still though..
I knowh he's slumping lately but with only a bit to go in the minor league season he'd have to completely bomb to the finish to finish significantly worse than Maybin.
I'm not saying Jackson = Maybin, but could there be a chance that a Yankee prospect is a bit underrated ? o_O
There's more
Maybins numbers are now more than ever looking as if they were indeed made somewhat misleading in regards of rumors of a back injury. It seems in a way the shoulder injury which sat him out for a month allowed him as well to rest up his back or whatever was nagging him. His numbers since coming back are as good as what his peers were
doing.
I'm not sure anyways were you are getting he put up better or similar numbers.
Maybin
.316 91 323 68 102 15 5 14 53 169 51 91 25 6 .409 .523 .932
Jackson
.289 114 443 77 128 27 4 12 50 199 39 96 28 9 .352 .449 .801
He has only 12 hr's 27 doubles and 4 triples in over 100 more ab's than Maybin. Higher BA,SLG,OPS...Obp.etc. Shoot, with a 120 less ab's Maybin actually had 3 more rbi's as well. I really think with a healthy back and no missed time Maybin would easily have had about 30 doubles, 20 dingers and 2-3 more triples and probably around another 10-15 sb's
Maybin has a higher k rate, but also a higher walk rate. You must also factor in to how Maybin was being pitched to at High A. Reports were saying he was getting junk for the most part and in order to sometimes make something happen would swing for stuff he probably normally wouldn't swing at. This is the case though with a lot of oyung stud hitters coming up.
Having a better pedigree of hitters around you in a batting lineup makes a huge difference to how you are being pitched. In AA Maybin had others around him(Joyce,Thomas,Larish..etc) whereas in Lakeland....pretty much zilch. Better lineups force pitchers to actually "pitch to you". I think this factor has been seriously overlooked when evaluating Maybin's raw numbers.
Now Jackson numbers are not bad, but I don't see with or without the numbers how he'd be considered near the prospect as Maybin, or in your case matched hype.( I know you said he does not equal, but nonetheless)) Thats without throwing in arm,defense,size, and project-ability, which Maybin still has plenty of. Work ethic and the mental aspect of the game are areas that Maybin as wells is tops in. I must say I have no idea where Jackson rates in those two areas, but they can't be better than Maybins I'll tell you that. Maybe they match or come close, but I seriously doubt surpass.
Maybin WAS in the same league I think you meant as well ;)
I guess my only question is why would you say still impressive...but.....when commenting on Maybins game today and then bring up Jacksons numbers immediately as a comp. I guess I don't see the same type of prospect status or hype warranted. You also have to remmeber Maybin was a top ten pick, so hype would be ramped up just because of that alone.
by Bondomania on Aug 19, 2007 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you might want to amend this a little
Should say that he is in the same league that Cameron Maybin was in before he got called up to AA and before he got called up to MLB.
Maybin's minor league stats in 2007 (2 games in GCL, 83 in FSL, 6 in EL): .316/.409/.523
Jackson in 2007 (60 in Sally, 54 in FSL): .289/.352/.449
You can pick out whatever numbers you want, but on the whole Maybin had much better numbers at a higher level of play (didn't play half the year in the Sally League). Maybin also was significantly better in 2006 (.304/.387/.457 vs .260/.340/.346).
Jackson might be underrated (I have no idea what he is "rated"), but comparing him to Maybin isn't a good way to make that case.
by dj @ Minor League Ball on Aug 19, 2007 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions

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