Bullet Points
Bullet Points for Today:
*Assuming that Western civilization still exists 100 years from now, Major League Baseball, Sesame Street, and the Star Trek franchise will still exist and still be popular.
*The paper dollar should be phased out completely by 2010 and replaced with dollar coins. I would do it gradually over a three-year period, produce fewer and fewer paper dollars and more and more dollar coins, give people time to adjust. But the paper dollar is just annoying and is inefficient. It needs to go, the sooner the better.
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Dollar Bill
The next thing that needs to go is the penny. Things would work very well with the nickel being the smallest coin.
by GregJP on Aug 16, 2007 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penny
I don't mind dollar bills, I don't care for all the extra coins I have to have jingling around my pocket.
As far as baseball, it will be interesting where it will be in 100 years. Considering how the game has changed in the last 100 years.
by e 6 on Aug 16, 2007 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The penny, the nickel, the dime & the quarter
It's about time for Mr. Goodcents to add another meal to their menu anyway.
by Stat Ninja on Aug 16, 2007 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dollar coin
It sucks having a wad of coins in my pocket, and how am I supposed to go to a strip club with dollar coins?
by Curtis Pride on Aug 16, 2007 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good point
by John Sickels on Aug 16, 2007 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe strip joint will
by Rajah358 on Aug 16, 2007 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bah...
by slurve on Aug 16, 2007 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by pedrophile on Aug 16, 2007 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by DrBGiantsfan on Aug 16, 2007 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
If you want to phase out the paper dollar, start printing dollars on plastic. That way they will last better and you can even buy in some RFID stuff to combat counterfeiting
by Kanst42 on Aug 16, 2007 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No plastic
Obviously very few waiters/waitresses/bartenders on this forum. Those jobs would get really heavy without the paper dollar.
by Stat Ninja on Aug 16, 2007 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spend at least 90%
even bars on the weekend (though I'm sure they probably add drinks to the bill), lunch, supermarket, corner store, etc.
Everything possible. Not only is faster and cheaper (since I get rewards points back), but I rarely have to deal with coins.
If you spend time in Europe, you'll hate the dollar coins, they are everywhere.
by Curtis Pride on Aug 16, 2007 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Europe
Also, in regards to the strip club question, I had the same thought after not having $1 bills for a month. I kept asking people where you would put the coins and I got 2 responses. First, I had some friends who went to a strip club in Germany and they did what was suggested earlier-turn your coins into strip club money that the strippers would later change into real money. The second suggestion was that the strippers could where like a change purse, or something along those lines strapped to their thigh or other part of their body.
by hurley325 on Aug 16, 2007 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pacman
by JFP on Aug 16, 2007 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pacman with Coins
by FlipYrWhig on Aug 16, 2007 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better grab an umbrella
by Grrranderson on Aug 16, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how baseball bats and balls will be
by Bravesin07 on Aug 16, 2007 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penny first
Did baseball ever find its way into the Star Trek universe? I wonder if Worf would be accused of taking steroids. ;)
100 years from now will the US have finally gone metric? Scouts will be looking for kids throwing 160 kph...
by HavyBeaks on Aug 16, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
coinage
but i'll come down on the side in favor of dollar coins:
- dollar bills have a life expectancy of 18 months. that sucks.
- you wouldn't need to have vending machines that recognize bills any more. well, at least vending machines for things like snacks and soda. for machines that deal in larger currencies (e.g. train & subway ticket machines), they already use dollar coins to give change, since giving bills in change is hard to do for a machine.
- people complain that they'd have to carry around too much weight in dollar coins, but dollar coins don't necessarily have to be big and heavy. and it means you wouldn't need to tote around a zillion quarters (currently the largest useful coinage unit) for laundry, parking, etc., so it could actually help reduce the weight of coins overall.
by jpahk on Aug 16, 2007 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The penny definitely needs to go
by Grrranderson on Aug 16, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, please
All merchants should be forced to round-up or round-down to the nearest nickel.
So, simple and productive.
by floridamarlinscards on Aug 21, 2007 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennies
by FlipYrWhig on Aug 17, 2007 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really??
by HuskerBob on Aug 16, 2007 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Debit Cards
by JFP on Aug 16, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
by Curtis Pride on Aug 16, 2007 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you always pay the balance
There are quite a few places where you can't pay with credit/debit card, or where it slows you down significantly. I usually pay in cash just because it saves me the 30 seconds.
by Brickhaus on Aug 16, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Reason
Matt
by WayneCampbell05 on Aug 16, 2007 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
I've been to a few. Other than Cuba I don't recall ever having problems with debit. But credit is another story.
by pedrophile on Aug 16, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by gottywhat on Aug 16, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
World Traveler
Matt
by WayneCampbell05 on Aug 17, 2007 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do get that but ...
I've found that few stores take credit cards and some even charge extra. You need access to hard cash. I guess you could take a cash advance versus the credit card but then your rate is very high on that.
by pedrophile on Aug 17, 2007 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True Dat
Matt
by WayneCampbell05 on Aug 18, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Personally I always bring a credit card and two bank cards to be safe. You never know what you will get.
by pedrophile on Aug 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by gottywhat on Aug 20, 2007 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is part of it
And in Europe there is no problem using the bank card. As long as you have the PLUS system or one of the other major systems you are OK.
by pedrophile on Aug 20, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a fan of coins
Definately no need for pennies anymore. If it wasn't illegal, there would be all kind of business in melting down pennies, since the metal is worth more than the coin itself.
I doubt Star Trek will be around, but similar sci-fi programming will be around. After 100 years of cultural development, it will just be too anachronistic; plus, at some point, the trademarks / copyrights will run out, and the market will get flooded by cheap imitators.
I can see Sesame Street still being around. There will always be a need for it, as long as TV is still a viable medium, and they spend a lot of money to hire good writers to keep them with the times.
I have little doubt that MLB, in some form will still be around; however, with developments in transportation, I wouldn't be shocked if it merges with NPB to create a truly world league in the latter half of the century. The NBA will do it first, and eventually MLB will need to follow.
by Brickhaus on Aug 16, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do Pennies Still Make Sense?
As Zinc Prices Rise, the Idea of Losing the Cent Gains Currency
By Jeff Donn
Associated Press
Friday, July 7, 2006
A penny used to buy a loaf of bread, but in an age of inflation and affluence, the coin is slowly sliding into monetary obsolescence.
For the first time, the U.S. Mint has said this year that pennies are costing more than 1 cent to make, thanks to higher metal prices.
That idea of spending 1.2 cents to put 1 cent into play strikes many people as "faintly ridiculous," said Jeff Gore, of Elkton, Md., founder of a group called Citizens for Retiring the Penny.
"The penny is going to disappear soon unless something changes in the economics of commodities," said Robert Hoge, an expert on North American coins at the American Numismatic Society.
Still, Gallup polling has shown that two-thirds of Americans want to keep the penny. There's even a pro-penny lobby called Americans for Common Cents.
"It's part of their past, so they want to keep it in their future," said Dave Harper, editor of Numismatic News.
The Mint's announcement is a milestone, because coins have historically cost less to produce than the face value paid by receiving banks and have usually been moneymakers for the government. Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) wants to keep it that way. When he asked Congress to phase out the penny five years ago, he failed; he plans to try again this year.
The idea of a penniless society began to gain currency in 1989 with a bill in Congress to round off purchases to the nearest nickel. It was dropped, but the General Accounting Office in a 1996 report acknowledged that some people consider the penny a "nuisance coin."
Copper, bronze and zinc have been used to make the penny, and steel was used in 1943 when copper was desperately needed for World War II. In 1982, zinc replaced most of the penny's copper to save money, but rising zinc prices are bedeviling the penny again.
In 2002, Gallup polling found that 58 percent of Americans stash pennies in piggy banks, jars or drawers instead of spending them like other coins. Some people eventually redeem them at banks or coin-counting machines, but 2 percent admit to throwing pennies out.
"It's outlived its usefulness," said Tony Terranova, a New York City coin dealer who paid $437,000 for a 1792 penny prototype in what is believed to be the denomination's highest auction price. "Most people find them annoying when they get them in change."
Not Edmond Knowles, of Flomaton, Ala. He hoarded pennies for nearly four decades as a hobby. He ended up with more than 1.3 million of them -- 4.5 tons -- in several drums in his garage. His bank refused to take them all at once; he finally found a coin-counting company, Coinstar Inc., that wanted the publicity.
In the biggest known penny cash-in, the company sent an armored truck last year, into which Knowles's pennies were loaded. Knowles watched helplessly as the truck sank into the mud in his yard. A tow truck rescued it. His years of collecting brought him about $1 a day -- $13,084.59 in all. Knowles, however, no longer saves pennies. "It's too big a problem getting rid of them," he said.
But others have their reasons for valuing the coin, which borrowed its colloquial name from British currency. The "cent" -- meaning 1 percent of a dollar -- has been struck every year since 1787, except 1815, when the United States ran out of British-made penny blanks after the War of 1812. "It's part of the fabric of American culture," said David Early, a spokesman for the government's Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Commission.
The penny took on the profile of President Abraham Lincoln on the centennial of his birth in 1909. The first ones carried ears of wheat on the tails side, but the Lincoln Memorial has replaced those. Four new tails designs with themes from Lincoln's life are planned for 2009 -- the first major redesign since 1959.
Those who want to keep the penny coin include small merchants who prefer cash transactions, contractors who help supply pennies and consumer advocates who fear the rounding up of purchases.
"We think the penny is important as a hedge to inflation," said executive director Mark Weller of Americans for Common Cents. "Anytime you have more accurate pricing, consumers benefit."
Scores of charities esteem the penny, which many Americans donate without a second thought. The wireless network Virgin Mobile USA recently launched a save-the-penny campaign. Its penny truck will travel cross-country to gather pennies for charity.
"People don't like carrying them around, so we dump them into the nearest bowl," said Teddy Gross, who founded the Penny Harvest charity drive in New York City schools.
Last year, students raked in 55 million pennies. They also bagged about 200,000 spare nickels. By the way, the Mint says nickels are also costing more to produce than they are worth
by jonk1982 on Aug 16, 2007 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dollar coins...
ps haha don't even get ms started on bill accepting vending machines, that "zeep! zeep!"
by gottywhat on Aug 16, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry
by gottywhat on Aug 17, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who believes coins are the way to go...
by ftheyankees on Aug 17, 2007 6:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grocery Store
by GregJP on Aug 17, 2007 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I'm well aware of the plastic option...
by ftheyankees on Aug 18, 2007 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$$ and coins - "fiat money"
I agree with above posts that point out the use of credit/debit cards for most day-to-day expenses - certainly has made my life easier (especially now that there are services to help protect identity).
The problem (in my view) is that no matter which physical form the money takes, our money is fiat money. The government can print and print, or mint and mint, and it is not connected to any backing whatsoever! And as more dollars are created they are worth less - hence, we are at a point where the penny is valued less than the materials to make it as noted above.
For reasons both good and bad, precious metals hold real value. In the end paper money is just paper with something printed on it. A promissory note from the government. But it is easier to carry around than physical metals and certainly that is why paper money was invented, as the coins just got too difficult to manage.
I would argue that if we went back on the gold standard, and possibly re-thought our coinage strategy, the US would be in stronger shape economically and we wouldn't have to deal with pennies!!!
by gretschboy on Aug 17, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the man purse
by tycobb420 on Aug 20, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Purse?"
Anyway, all of this talk about having too many dollar coins is bizarre. There are simply too many occasions throughout a day to spend a dollar or two or three for too many dollar coins to accumulate on your person. I haven't had as many as 10 dollar coins at one time in the last five years. When my change pouch gets fat, it is because of all the useless pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters, and you have those in America too.
by CanuckDodger on Aug 22, 2007 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pouch
But seriously, you own and wear a purse, not a pouch. As a gender, we just need to break through that barrier.
by tycobb420 on Aug 22, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually you could get rid of nickels too...
The nice thing about making the dime the lowest level of currency is that we move to one decimal.
by Mike Green on Aug 21, 2007 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs









