Mike Moustakas to attend USC
I don't know if this is just posturing but it's pretty disheartening news for us Royals fans.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/233027.html
The first real bit of news about the Royals' negotiations with No. 2 overall pick Mike Moustakas come in the form of a message to The Kansas City Star from Scott Boras, who is advising Moustakas.
"As far as I understand from the family," Boras said, "he's returning to school."
Moustakas did not immediately return a phone message.
Moustakas previously signed a letter of intent with USC. If nothing is done by 10:59 tonight Kansas City time, the Royals would receive the No. 3 pick in next year's draft as compensation.
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This is why KC will never win
I think they were trying to
by Darce on Aug 15, 2007 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Bravesin07
If you think KC will never win because they refused to give a high school player a major league contract, your an idiot.
+1
Didnt
by Darce on Aug 15, 2007 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest
I don't think Bravesin07 needs to think...
by uga007 on Aug 15, 2007 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
should have
Not picking on you. Just that I've seen the "should of" phrase used a lot here recently, and as an english teacher, it gets me.
continue.
by Curtis Pride on Aug 15, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Bear in mind...
They should have taken a college pitcher
Come on
You can't compare Greinke and Griffin to this situation. Greinke has had psychological issues, no one could have predicted that. Griffin? That was just a stupid pick, and everyone knew it at the time. Who made that pick? Oh yea, Allard Baird.
This why they need trading draft picks
Obviously they did make a big mistake...
by Angels and Demons on Aug 15, 2007 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations, Bud
by igreen01 on Aug 15, 2007 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
+1
OK
It isn't good when they had a shady ref
San Antonio Spurs and David Stern
Uh
well they cheated a way to a title
I'm no Spurs fan
And your criticism of Stern is still unexplained and off-base. He's not perfect, but he took a sport that was barely considered a major sport in America (I believe that the NBA Finals weren't even televised when he became commissioner) and has cultivated it into an exceptionally profitable and popular enterprise.
+1
by abbreviatedman on Aug 15, 2007 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
+2
I AM a Spurs fan, by the way, so feel free to call me biased, but...yeah. Quit talking crap about the Spurs.
by ajohnst1 on Aug 15, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If you gonna give out MLB deals to prospects
by NYYLover1000 on Aug 15, 2007 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That story was completely overblown by the
Nevertheless, I really hope for the Royals to sign Moustakas. That's really unfortunate. Nevertheless If I was the Royals I would of drafted Matt Wieters and take my chances of giving him a MLB deal.
by NYYLover1000 on Aug 15, 2007 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
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Now take a look at the popularity of baseball in places like KC, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay . . .well, we have quite a different story. And we know the sports fans are out there in these places, it's just that baseball has basically totally ignored them.
The overall well-being of the game is not going to be won in New York or Boston. It's going to be won in the small markets.
+1
Look, I'm scared for baseball in 5 or 6 years if something isn't done about the draft. Not only will the big market teams have a huge payroll, they will have the best players in the draft as well.
Response
LOL
People have been sounding the death knell for baseball since the turn of the 20th Century. I wish I had a nickel for every prophet of doom ... Mahalo
Matt
by WayneCampbell05 on Aug 15, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm more worried about 20-30 years
And then there's the fact that MLB seems to make short-sited decisions that benefit ratings/attendance in the short term but dilute their product in the long-term. Stuff like inter-league play is a perfect example; ratings for inter-league games are basically similar to intra-league games. The All-Star game is another example. Bud's thought process must have been something like, "OH NOS!!1 I'm taking heat because of a completely freak occurance that has occured ONCE in the history of the AS-game (or however often; the point is "rarely")! Better do something drastic like determining home-field advantage for the LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP in an exhibition! That seems like it'll get people to stop complaining about me!" So now we've got this stupid "now it counts" BS where AS-game managers use their pitchers just like they were before so it really did nothing to address the problem. Ugg.
So now that I've turned this completely into a rant, I'll just say that I think baseball currently offers an inferior product in basically every aspect besides the game itself.
No
world series ratings
by FrazierFan on Aug 15, 2007 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Query
Also, maybe the popularity of those three cities you mention (KC,Pittsburg,TB) has more to do with the horrific ownership than any MLB policy. Mahalo
Matt
by WayneCampbell05 on Aug 15, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
there's always next June?
According to everything I've read
In other words, they will have to overdraft a player at 2A to guarantee he signs. If they don't, the player can just hold out for a huge contract and know that the Royals will be forced to give in. It's a really crappy situation for Royals fans...
The problem is...
Or another option...
No Way
Again...
what
I agree that they shouldn't make a stupid deal with Moustakas...I just think they they should have known better when they drafted him 2nd overall...
Yea...
The second pick will probably be a bit of an overdraft, however. Which is fine, it will still be an excellent prospect.
Yeah and then they won't sign them either
Royals' fault: - and other FO's stupidity as well
Even more so, why the hell is David Glass listening to Bud Selig at all? Rank stupidity, letting teams like the Tigers, Yankees, and Red Sox run roughshod over the slotting system while you hold the line and cost your team a LOT of money down the line, for the sake of what amounts to a pittance now.
It's total Game Theory. When a system is broken and a minority of the players start taking advantage of a loophole to post huge gains, a loophole that has only minor consequences, the rest of the players must follow suit or be left behind. That this is in particular a system that affords the most benefit to those most behind, and that the players taking advantage of the loophole are those most ahead, makes this even more glaring. The fact that most teams are playing the drafting game so incredibly sub-optimally is a sign of the rank stupidity among front offices.
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Vitters
Exactly
by Angels and Demons on Aug 15, 2007 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with most of the things you said that said
Nevertheless, it would have been a little bit easier to give out a MLB contract to a polish college player who has a ton of ability and more than Moustakas. That way, if you drafted wieters, the Royals organization wouldn't really thought twice to give out a MLB contract. Hey the royals was willing to give out the big bucks, but they shot them selves in the foot in picking the wrong player.
by NYYLover1000 on Aug 15, 2007 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the correction.
As to Moustakas, it's still the Royals fault for passing up better talents (if not in everybody's eyes, obviously, but at least similar talents) for one they thought they could sign, but not doing the research necessary to see if they actually would want to sign him for what he was asking. I actually understand and kind of agree with the notion that you don't give a high school player a ML contract. Although, at this point, it might be better to bite the bullet and sign him, rather than take the 3rd overall pick next year with no leverage. Also, you know that ownership won't just add the money you would have spent on Moose to next year's draft budget.
But the point is, you don't spend the #2 overall pick on a high school position player asking for a ML contract and then not sign him because he's a high school position player asking for a ML contract. Or, apparently, you do.
by abbreviatedman on Aug 15, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Re:
This is the truth.
I see..
What?
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
All players...
And again
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lack of leverage
by BlueEyesAustin on Aug 15, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
just so you know
i mean i get what you're saying but it took a second
I realized that halfway through.
by abbreviatedman on Aug 15, 2007 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Good point
Or
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Over Yet
It's certainly not looking good but I still think there's a chance this gets done...
+1
And that's
If I'm the Royals, I make sure I take him the next time around and thoroughly enjoy offering him a $75,000 contract (or whatever 6th round slot is).
Wieters in 08
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
Like Hochevar?
Huh?
This would be similar to the LaPorta situation.
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
True
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wieters..
Link:http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-wieters0814,0,6316833.story
If the Royals, draft Wieters, Wieters loses his leverage, and will have to take any offer above slot money.
I Disagree
Not necessarily slot
What does he do if a team gives him a firm offer next year at slot or slightly above? Turn it down, play another year of indy ball, and cross his fingers for the next season? That's quickly going into Matt Harrignton territory.
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Another Reason
Matt
by WayneCampbell05 on Aug 15, 2007 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
by BlueEyesAustin on Aug 15, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like a deal might still be possible
by Angels and Demons on Aug 15, 2007 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
And BA
by BlueEyesAustin on Aug 15, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Moustakas
We act as if it the teams right to have these kids play for them. I grew up in southern california too, I would hate to have to live in KC. Obviously he's doing it for the money to a large (if not the entire) extent.
How about rather than bemoaning a franchise that shouldn't exist we congradulate the University of Southern California for putting together the best collection of amateur athletic talent in the country?
As a socal guy, and of greek descent, Im stoked that Moustakas is staying with his roots while also making some green. He shouldn't have to apologize for that.
Sure
I'm sure ESPN would drool over the thought of showing a NYY-Boston game 50+ times a year.
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
by Bowser on Aug 15, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I Think It's Funny
Also Posted on the Wieters Threat...
He wants to play pro ball, he declares, gets selected wherever, and goes and plays. He wants to go to college and be Greek (which is relevant, apparently), he doesn't declare. End of story, end of entitlement, end of Boras elevating greed to an art form in baseball. (For the amateurs, anyway. A-Rod's another story.)
by brawnyhombre on Aug 15, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions

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