Jeremy Guthrie

by JT12340 on Aug 13, 2007 10:15 PM EDT

Can anyone tell me what's going on with this guy of late? He seems to have gotten lit up the last 4-6 starts. His ERA has jumped from 2.94 to 3.22 as his WHIP and BABIP have increased incrementally as well. Has the league finally figured this guy out or is this a case of "dead arm"? Has he changed his pitching motion, has he been tipping his pitches, has his stuff been less crisp overall?

A little insight to what has been going on with him would be great, thanks fellas...

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His ERA is 3.41 after this outing

I think the league is catching up to him and he's hit a wall. That's why August is called the dogdays of summer.

by Bravesin07 on Aug 13, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions

lidled

i agree,
i think he really hit a wall.

he's never pitched this much, has he?

and didn't he pitch this winter?

not surprising

by god allah star on Aug 13, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions

Too soon

Give it more time.

by aCone419 on Aug 13, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

-1

Totally unnecessary IMO. It's not even funny.

Hey fish, leave those kids alone!

by The Congo Hammer on Aug 14, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions

+ obviously a joke

- empathy

= entendred?

by god allah star on Aug 14, 2007 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions

stupid...

and inappropriate. There was no reason to bring that up in this discussion.

by Zabat @ Minor League Ball on Aug 14, 2007 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions

i'll admit, i was a little slow in the uptake

but that got me laughing.

JUSTIN MASTERSON: EXPOSED

variables don't; constants aren't

by overlord on Aug 15, 2007 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions

yea

the league is catching up to him. he wasn't low 3 ERA good. he's having a correction.

by cmaff05 on Aug 13, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions

Guthrie

Reminds me of Bronson Arroyo a couple of years ago.

His talent level never supported his performance, and the correction was just a matter of time.

Some times corrections just happen sooner rather than later.

Oh, and don't read much into tonight, as the Yankees right now are sending out one of the top 10 hitting lineups of all time. (with Giambi and Duncan available off of the bench tonight)

If Hughes and Chamberlain pitch well the Yankees will win the division.

by GregJP on Aug 13, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions

he has absolutely nasty stough

how can you say the talent didn't match the performance. He has dominating stuff.

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by was385 on Aug 14, 2007 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions

Stuff

I would have to respectfully disagree that he has dominating stuff.

I've watched a couple of his starts and I think he has average to slightly above average major league stuff.

by GregJP on Aug 14, 2007 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions

you are in a severe minority

mid-to-high-90's fastball with nasty movement, devastating breaking ball, and a very good changeup.

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by was385 on Aug 14, 2007 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions

uh

or 93 mph straight fastball that is nowhere near the high 90s, an above average slider and changeup

there is nothing "devastating" about his stuff, and ive seen him pitch when he has dominated and struggled.

by PooNani on Aug 14, 2007 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

spoken like someone who has read about,

but not watched guthrie's stuff.

JUSTIN MASTERSON: EXPOSED

variables don't; constants aren't

by overlord on Aug 15, 2007 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Guts

As others have said, Guthrie has looked fatigued the last few outings. That said, 2 of the 3 have been against the Yanks and the Red Sox (at Fenway), so I'm not quite ready to stick a fork in him.

In terms of pitches, it has seemed like he's had some trouble finishing guys off the last few starts. Either his command is off a touch, or guys are laying off pitches they used to be swinging through.

by Yakker on Aug 14, 2007 2:35 AM EDT reply actions

Not so sure

That it's necessarily the league catching up to him as much as just the results evening out over time. His BABIP through June was something like .220. It was only a matter of time before those grounders started finding holes in the infield.

Guthrie will be alright. I think once the season is over, you'll look at his stats and see a pretty darn good starter that was just really lucky in the first half and really unlucky in the second half. Overall, the stats though will reflect his true performance.

by guru4u on Aug 14, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply actions