Porcello

by Trobone on Jul 1, 2007 9:24 PM EDT

Has anyone read anything new about him signing or not? Do people here think the tigers will pony up the money to get him signed or are they happy to get the draft pick next year?

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Too early

The deal won't be announced until the 11th hour, as most over-slot deals are. I would think the Tigers will pony up the cash because (1) they knew the ballpark figure it would take to sign Porcello and wouldn't have selected him if they weren't willing to come close to it, and (2) they know they won't get anything close to a Porcello-like talent with the 27A pick next year.

by CW @ Minor League Ball on Jul 1, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions

But maybe

They took Porcello knowing that if they didn't sign him they would get 27A next year. Obviously they won't get a Porcello talent at 27A next year but they won't have to pay him Porcello money either. You see what I mean?

They will sign or not sign Porcello based on how much he is asking for and whether they think he is worth that amount of money. I don't think the compensation pick comes into their decision making much.

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by Grrranderson on Jul 1, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Sounds Like

Baseball people are split. Maybe 40% of him signing...

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by Dfarth on Jul 1, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions

Baseball needs a slotting system

to avoid crap like this.

http://www.redsminorleagues.com

by dougdirt on Jul 2, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions

+1

Of course, the Tigers never would have got Porcello then, just as it should be. ;)

by doublestix on Jul 2, 2007 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions

It has one...

what is plan B?

by jfish26101 on Jul 2, 2007 1:02 AM EDT reply actions

They Think They Can Sign Him

This was a fairly deep draft. Lots of talent still on the board. No guarantees they could get equal value in 2008. If they didn't think they were going to sign Porcello, they would have picked someone they could sign.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jul 2, 2007 1:08 AM EDT reply actions

he probably signs

tigers realize the kind of talent they have, and like previously mentioned, they KNEW it was going to take a lot, but yeah a slotting system has to be implemented at some point, this is a guy that should be going to kansas city or pittsburgh, the tigers honestly dont need him as much as the bottom teams.

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by realityconquest on Jul 2, 2007 2:51 AM EDT reply actions

Slotting System?

How are you going to enforce a slotting system when HS draftees can opt to go to college? The only way I know of to do that is for these kids to lose their college eligibility if they enter the draft. Only problem with that is what happens if a kid overestimates his pro value? Is it really fair to tell him he's stuck and can't play in college? No one held a gun to these team's heads, the Tigers nor the ones who passed on him. I just don't get why it's so important to protect mulltbillionaire owners from themselves.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jul 2, 2007 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Why is baseball

the only sport where you can hire an agent, get drafted, then still be considered an "amateur" per the NCAA rules? That part seems very, very confusing to me.

by guru4u on Jul 2, 2007 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Semantics...

Not agents, but advisors. You can be drafted in the NBA and return to college as well.

by cooper7d7 on Jul 2, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions

No you can't

You can enter the draft and then take yourself out by the NBA imposed deadline, which I think is a week or so before the draft. But if you stay in the draft, your college eligibility is done whether you get drafted or not. Unless of course your Randolph Morris and you can find some crazy loop hole to go back to college after you didn't get drafted.

by joerote on Jul 2, 2007 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

Both wrong?

I misread 12.2.4.2 of the NCAA bylaws

http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/division_i_manual/2006-07/2006-07_d1_manual.pdf

You do not lose eligibility if you are not drafted.

I was also confusing this with an NABC proposal to allow high schoolers entering the draft to be eligible even if they played professional for 1 year. As the NBA has essentially banned HS'ers from the draft, this is no longer an issue.

by cooper7d7 on Jul 2, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Not true

Once you're drafted, you're done. The NBA has a deadline of when you can pull your name out of draft consideration (which I think is somewhere around 2 weeks before the actual draft date). If you don't pull out by then, your college career is over. The NBA draft is only 2 rounds though, and I cannot remember if there is a bit of a loophole whereby if a player is not drafted at all, he can go back to school if he did not hire an agent. But I do know that if you're drafted, you lose your amateur status.

Maybe it is a bit semantics. Does a Porcello actually sign with Boras to be his client? Is Boras officially considered "hired"? If he's just an advisor and Porcello is not technically his client yet, then the rules are closer than I thought.

by guru4u on Jul 2, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

If you were the Tigers....

and you are truly thinking in some budgetary concerns...

I would think you pay him and take it out of next year's (or the following years') draft/international signing money. Heck, if they pick later in the 1st round again next year they could take some "signability" pick and save 2-400 K.

If you get a chance at a a unique talent (especially that late in the draft) I think you pay him.

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by Torncuff on Jul 2, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions