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FIRST ROUND

The First Round is ready to go. Make your pick in the comment thread and I will process.

1) Devil Rays: David Price, LHP, Vanderbilt
2) Royals: Matt Wieters, C, Georgia Tech
3) Cubs: Rick Porcello, RHP, NJ HS
4) Pirates: Josh Vitters, 3B, California HS
5) Orioles: Mike Moustakas, 3B, California HS
6) Nationals: Beau Mills, 3B, Lewis Clark State
7) Brewers: Jarrod Parker, RHP, Indiana HS
8) Rockies: Ross Detwiler, LHP, Missouri State
9) Diamondbacks: Jason Heyward, OF, Georgia HS
10) Giants: Madison Bumgarner, LHP, NC HS
11) Mariners: Phillipe Aumont, RHP, Quebec HS
12) Marlins: Matt Harvey, RHP, Conn. HS
13) Indians: Dan Moskos, LHP, Clemson
14) Braves: Josh Smoker, LHP, Georgia HS
15) Reds: Matt Dominguez, 3B, California HS
16) Blue Jays: Devin Mesoraco, C, Pennsylvania HS
17) Rangers: Blake Beavan, RHP, Texas HS
18) Cardinals: Kevin Ahrens, 3B, Texas HS
19) Phillies: Justin Jackson, SS, NC HS
20) Dodgers: Tim Alderson, RHP, Arizona HS
21) Blue Jays: Nick Noonan, SS, California HS
22) Giants: Corey Brown, OF, Oklahoma State
23) Padres: Michael Main, RHP, FLorida HS
24) Rangers: Julio Borbon, OF, Tennessee
25) White Sox: Matt LaPorta, 1B, Florida
26) Athletics: Casey Weathers, RHP, Vanderbilt
27) Tigers: Todd Frazier, 3B-SS, Rutgers
28) Twins: Matt Mangini, 3B, Oklahoma State
29) Giants: Nevin Griffith, RHP, Florida HS
30) Yankees: Andrew Brackman, RHP, NC State

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drays
Rays you are on the clock

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pick 1
LHP David Price from Vanderbilt
Rays in '08.... Free Andy Sonnanstine.

by youALREADYknow on Jun 3, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rays pick price
Rays pick price, confirmed. Royals on the clock.

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

last call
Last Call for Royals

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wieters
for Royals
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jun 3, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry man...
didn't know you were even here...please john change it.

by doublestix on Jun 3, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem
had an internet catastrophe.  Should be fixed now.
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jun 3, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry my internet was down
eom
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jun 3, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pick 3
Chicago Cubs select draft ID #1908 Wieters, Matthew, C, Georgia Tech University

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 3, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cubs
Cubs please pick again.

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uggh, stay organized
One person per team...

Wieters went to KC btw

Rays in '08.... Free Andy Sonnanstine.

by youALREADYknow on Jun 3, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pick 3
Chicago Cubs select draft ID #1908 Porcello, Rick, RHP, Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, New Jersey

Sorry, I saw John took Porcello for them and put the Cubs on the clock. I guess he erased that.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 3, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

porcello
Porcello to cubs

pirates on the board

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pirates
Josh Vitters 3b California

by Count Vertigo on Jun 3, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

vitters
vitters to pirates

Orioles on board

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Orioles
Mike Moustakas, INF/C, Chatsworth HS, Northridge, CA
Mike Emeigh http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/minor_key/

by MikeE on Jun 3, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Assistants
if anyone wants the Pirates,stay close,I have severe storms and not sure how long I will be able to stay on.
Will be here as long as things hold up,just wanted to let you guys know,if I disappear....

by Count Vertigo on Jun 3, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you need to give up the Pirates
I'll take them, although I have the same problem as you do with the weather.
Mike Emeigh http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/minor_key/

by MikeE on Jun 3, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool
I hope that it is not needed,but wanted to cover things in case

by Count Vertigo on Jun 3, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take over...
When and if you need it.

by ISC on Jun 3, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

greek
greek guy to the orioles

nats on the board

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nationals
1-6 (#6 overall):  The Washington Nationals select Mills, Beau - 3B - Lewis & Clark State College (ID)

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow
First shocker pick. He ws my guy at #9 but I had a feeling he mighht be gone..nice pick! The Nats would NOT be disappointed in him.
casedog

by casejud on Jun 3, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mills
mills to nats

brewers on board

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewers
Brewers select Parker, Jarrod RHP Norwell HS (Ind.)

by brewerfan84 on Jun 3, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

parker
parker to brewers

rocks up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eazyb
what prompted the change of heart?  I thought you were big on Porcello

by adschofield on Jun 3, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

safety
The more I thought about it, Porcello is such a huge gamble at #2 overall, while Wieters has a nice combo of safety and upside.  

In real life I probably wouldn't take Wieters if I was running KC's draft due to signability concerns, but we don't have to worry about that here.

Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jun 3, 2007 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Volunteer
I am willing to take a team if someone does not show.

by buccoben on Jun 3, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs
you can take the Cubs around 4 o'clock central.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 3, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rox
if nobody selects for the Rockies, I will right now. Jason Heyward, OF.

by bballfanlvnv on Jun 3, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?
I'd take Detwiler.

by Russ Oates on Jun 3, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heyward or Detwiler
It's a close call, in my mind. I just feel the Rockies need more high ceiling, athletic, toolsy outfielders and Heyward is one.

I really think Price is going to be the college stud and Heyward is going to be the high school stud out of this draft.

by bballfanlvnv on Jun 3, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rockies
rockies????  Buccoben pick the rockies please

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rockies
Ross Detwiler-P

by buccoben on Jun 3, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pick
could not have gone wrong with Detwiler or Heyward.

I'd love to have Detwiler in the system.

by bballfanlvnv on Jun 3, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

det
Detwiler to rocks

dbacks up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DBacks take
Jason Heyward
casedog

by casejud on Jun 3, 2007 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heyward
Heyward to dbacks

giants up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rockies Here
Thanks to who ever selected Detwiler. As I was typing in his name my computer shut off. Ridiculious...

by Angels and Demons on Jun 3, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#10
Giants select Madison Bumgarner, lhp
South Caldwell HS, Hudson, N.C

I knew one of the top 9 wouldn't fall.

by MPK on Jun 3, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right Pick
Not wild about Bumgarner and hope the real draft plays differently, but he was the BPA at this point in this draft.  It was the right pick here.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 3, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no shows
Astros are here, but we dont pick till Rd 3# so I'll be glad to pick for someone if there is another no show

by GoldenSpikes24 on Jun 3, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bum
bumgarnder to giants

Marinersup

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mariners
Phillippe Aumont - RHP - Ecole Du Versant HS (Quebec)

by ConorGlassey on Jun 3, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aumont
aumont to seattle

marlins up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marlins
Matt Harvey - RHP - Fitch HS, Conneticut

by T for Jose Tabatha on Jun 3, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

harvey
harvey to marlins

indians up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Volunteer
Since Rockies showed I can take another team.

by buccoben on Jun 3, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

buccoben
if you are on AOL IM,shoot me a IM ohiohitman1

by Count Vertigo on Jun 3, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate, we at DT are watching
Hey Nate, just shouting out to you, don't blow out.  :)

We at DT.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 3, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indians
Take Daniel Moskos

by jagsbball41 on Jun 3, 2007 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

moskos
moskos to indians

braves up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braves go with
Josh Smoker, LHP, Calhoun HS, Calhoun, GA

tough choice here

by nms on Jun 3, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

reds
Tough pick but reds draft Matt Dominguez, 3b, Chatsworth (Calif.) HS
Giants '08

by z4 landshark on Jun 3, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LAST CALL
last call on reds

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

reds
dominguez to the reds

jays up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blue Jays
Jays select:

Devin Mesoraco, C, Punxsutawney HS (PA)

by Pistol on Jun 3, 2007 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mes
mesoraco to the jays

rangers up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rangers
Rangers take Blake Beavean... RHP- texas hs
lets go oakland

by robb on Jun 3, 2007 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

beavan
beavan to the rangers

cards up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals
Cardinals take Kevin Ahrens, 3b, Memorial High School, Houston, Texas

by fewgoodcards on Jun 3, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice
#10 rated player on Few's cheat sheet...falls to him at #18...hard to be displeased about that...

by siddfynch on Jun 3, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was pretty happy
thanks for writing sidd, i didn't think anyone was reading my diaries there towards the end.

by fewgoodcards on Jun 3, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahrens
ahrens to cards

phils up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah
but it was an overdraft. I don't think he's a 5 tool guy. He's a good all around athlete, but the bat is still his largest question mark.

by phuturephillies on Jun 3, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a surprise there
But I am a huge Jackson fan.

by jeck on Jun 3, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did not see that coming
I was thinking of taking him with the #47 pick

by Kanst42 on Jun 3, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

47
i was taking him at 36, so he wouldn't have made it there

by fewgoodcards on Jun 3, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost took him at #9!
Just to shock some folks. I really like him.
casedog

by casejud on Jun 3, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same
i was REALLY hoping to get him for Atlanta at 33

by nms on Jun 3, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jackson
jackson to phils

dodgers up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dodgers
dodgers select....

Tim Alderson RHP....Horizon HS Arizona

by npurcell on Jun 3, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alderson
alderso to dodgers

dbacks up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes
The Jays pick at 1-21 :)

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jays @ 21
Blue Jays select:

Nick Noonan, SS, Francis Parker HS (CA)

by Pistol on Jun 3, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cripes
My entire Supplemental Round board is leaving the building...

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here
Jackson and Noonan were the guys i wanted in the 40s

by Kanst42 on Jun 3, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my supp round is crap too
i was trying to decide between noonan and jackson and now i get neither

by fewgoodcards on Jun 3, 2007 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

: D
You could always pop Brackman...How far do you think he'll fall?

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
I was gonna pop Noonan at 29...

by MPK on Jun 3, 2007 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jays
yes, jays sorry

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

noonan
noonan to jays

giants up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#22
Giants select Corey Brown, of
Oklahoma State

by MPK on Jun 3, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Move
Brown flew completely under my radar, but after looking him up, I really like him here at #22.  Impact college hitter with power plus tools.  Good job!

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 3, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brown
brown to giants

pads up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Run.....
on high schoolers....
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jun 3, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Padres select
P/OF Michael Main, FL H.S.

by igreen01 on Jun 3, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how?
How did he fall that far???

by Kanst42 on Jun 3, 2007 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was
THISCLOSE to taking him for the Braves at 14

by nms on Jun 3, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smoker/Main
I had Smoker above him on my board too, FWIW

by igreen01 on Jun 3, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

main
i had him even with ahrens at 18, but the cardinals have several arms in the low minors so i went with the bat

by fewgoodcards on Jun 3, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Main
I was actually expecting him to fall some, although I had him at #11 on my board.  I was starting to think he might make it to me at #31...

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
which is it?  what do you see him as?
P or OF?

by nms on Jun 3, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitcher
I think with a blazing fastball and a promising changeup we'd have to try him on the mound first, but it's nice to know there's a backup plan...

by igreen01 on Jun 3, 2007 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

main
main to pads

rangers up

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rangers
Rangers select Julio Borbon OF Tennesee
lets go oakland

by robb on Jun 3, 2007 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm not a huge fan of borbon's
but that could be colored by the fact that there is a legitimate chance the phils will take him at 19.  with the depth the phillies have at CF, i'd really hate to see them take borbon when they could nab a better college bat like frazier or kulbacki, or maybe a prep pitcher like bumgarner, smoker, or alderson.  

by overlord on Jun 3, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CWS
White Sox select 1B Matt LaPorta, UF

by cooper7d7 on Jun 3, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oakland A's select
RHP Casey Weathers Vanderbilt

by foolintherain on Jun 3, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weathers
Another nice pick

by adschofield on Jun 3, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comments
Jackson, Noonan, and Alderson way too high. Beavan and Burbon have been excellent value picks thus far.  Should be interesting to see how far Brackman slides

by natsprospects26 on Jun 3, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alderson
i dont agree :)

by npurcell on Jun 3, 2007 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beau Mills
He was taken too high in my opinion

by adschofield on Jun 3, 2007 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mills
Let's revisit this comment at this time next year :)

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is the knock against jackson?
he's got all 5 tools, and has actually exhibited them in HS.  he hit .550 with 28 XBH in 95 AB  at TC roberson.  he also had 21 SB without being caught, and 14:6 BB:K ratio.  

i think the only reason that he's dropped to this point is because of draft fatigue.   this is the third year in a row that scouts have been at his games, being there last year to see josh thrailkill, and the year before to see cameron maybin.  i think he's a legitimate hitter, and, even though he's toolsy, i would be happy to see him drafted by the phillies, even if it is at 19.  

by overlord on Jun 3, 2007 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

want me to
take the tigers?

by SBcaptain2 on Jun 3, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mcgeary
I would have went with Mcgeary over Alderson personally, I see Alderson as a fringe 1st round guy.

by natsprospects26 on Jun 3, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alderson
6'7, durable his whole career,repeats his delivery extremely well with athleticism, excelled in showcases, impeccable control, reaches 96 with his heater, knockout slider, unique player who is a tough competitor.

thats why i picked him.

by npurcell on Jun 3, 2007 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mcgeary
you would rather have mcgeary and his mid 80's fastball over alderson and his low to mid 90's heater, good slider, and excellent control?

by fewgoodcards on Jun 3, 2007 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twins Proudly Select
Twins select 3rd Baseman Matt Mangini out of Oklahoma State

by yanksfan6129 on Jun 3, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

giant
Giants then yankees. GO!

by John Sickels on Jun 3, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wanted Frazier
So I was pissed, but I think of Mangini as a similar power 3b

by yanksfan6129 on Jun 3, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

giants should take upside here....
sysytem needs it burgess or brackmen

by bartonboi on Jun 3, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#29
Giants select Nevin Griffith, rhp
Middleton HS, Tampa

by MPK on Jun 3, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love Griffith
Yes!!!  Giants MLB needs aren't as pressing at pitcher, so they can afford to use high picks on HS pitchers.  Griffith looks like he has huge upside to me.  Good going!!

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 3, 2007 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for the record, John
Mesoraco's first name is Devin, not Dan.
Mike Emeigh http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/minor_key/

by MikeE on Jun 3, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees take
Andrew Brackman, RHP, NC State
Blogging the Yanks and their farm system.

by River Ave Blues on Jun 3, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit
Brackman is a friggin wreck

by PooNani on Jun 3, 2007 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on talent...
...he's a steal at 30. More upside than anyone left.
Blogging the Yanks and their farm system.

by River Ave Blues on Jun 3, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice
I would friggin love it if the Yanks got Brackman

Of course, I'm not a Yankee fan...

by Jgaztambide on Jun 3, 2007 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

duh.
There's many better picks available at that point

Neil Ramirez and Blake Beaven especially. I'd rather have Burgess over Tall Bard

by PooNani on Jun 3, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait Beavan is gone
ooooopsie poopsie hahaha

by PooNani on Jun 3, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Upside
Yanks can afford to take a huge upside guy like Brackman this early.  I like the pick.
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club

by eazyb81 on Jun 3, 2007 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

risky, but makes sense
I wouldn't want to be one taking Brackman, but this kind of risky pick makes some sense for a team like the Yankees. They can afford to take a risk here and supplement their draft with high-quality talent that other teams cannot afford to sign away later in the draft.

by FI on Jun 3, 2007 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
I just wanted to say thanks to all of you guys that participated in the draft and to John for doing it. I dont have the time to participate, but it cool to watch and I love learning all these kids names, strengths, and all. Great stuff. Thanks again.

-Jerry

by Robinson Checo on Jun 3, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not over...
The fun stuff really begins over the next few hours.  Sitting on sleepers hoping they slip into Rounds 4-5 is where it gets REALLY interesting...

by birdtown on Jun 3, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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