could be lincecum time
From Rotoworld:
"Giants placed RHP Russ Ortiz on the 15-game disabled list, retroactive to May 2, with elbow neuritis in his right arm."
-On Lincecum coming up-
Pros: It would be his turn in the rotation.
He is a god.
Cons: Live on ESPN (is this actually a con?)
-Ryan Howard
-Chase Utley
He's not up yet, but if he does get the call, is this is a good thing? Will he be there to stay?
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Frandsen
by count sutton on May 3, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Frandsen or somebody else will be down
Lincecum is already listed as "inactive" from the Grizzlie's site.
Prediction: ND 6ip 3hits 2er 3bb 7k
by playingwithfire on May 3, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 hits
You guys get your expectations up so high for these guys, but I can't think of a single player that's come up and instantly become a superstar - without any injuries or long stretches of ineffectiveness - since I started looking at this site three years ago. Maybe there are some, but none are coming to mind.
by historypeats on May 4, 2007 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's his arm doing?
by historypeats on May 4, 2007 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he doesnt
later
by casejud on May 4, 2007 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chronic Shoulder Tendinitis
http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2007/3/23/74614/1078
I like Lincecum better than Weaver; the only reason Weaver's in this thread is because he was offered as an example of a phenom who didn't suffer from either long fallow periods of injuries. I'm pointing out that Weaver DOES have injury issues, and that a chronic condition that could be delivery-related might be something you should monitor more closely on your radar screen.
by historypeats on May 5, 2007 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strong chance
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Sabean.....
by DrBGiantsfan on May 3, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't like it
What kind of backwards crap is that? LOL.
by youALREADYknow on May 3, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he means by by how much
by NYYLover1000 on May 3, 2007 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like It
by DrBGiantsfan on May 3, 2007 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is great.
by NYYLover1000 on May 3, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not crap
Look, I'm sorry that I'm always the buzzkill in these threads - I understand that most of the people on this site obsess over young guys, and are therefore super-optimistic - but it goes overboard so often...
I mean, there are a half-dozen easily identifiable reasons to dislike a rookie making his first start on national television against another Grade-A young talent and a lineup with dangerous hitters, and you call it backwards crap? And more people aren't disagreeing with you?
I'm increasingly convinced that John is nearly the only person on this site capable of rationally analyzing players and situations. Most posters or diarists are either blinded by roses, or their perspective is negatively skewed - and then they cite a bunch of stats that support their pre-existing view, especially if there's a pet exotic stat that can be used (Oooh! Look at Cain's xFIP! He's terrible!)
So what? You can find damaging stats on every player. You can find positive stats for every player. Stats are interesting, but they aren't the end-all/be-all. Let's let Lincecum get some games under his belt and evaluate him at the end of the season, instead of post a bunch of worried diaries the first time he goes on a 3-game losing streak.
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by historypeats on May 4, 2007 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take
A wild prediction? You bet. But for such a leap of faith, I have a strong conviction about this one.
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still god a hard-on for Timmy, I see
by The Rocc on May 4, 2007 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freudian slip?
Freudian slip?
"Still god a hard-on for Timmy, I see"
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be as much hype as Hughes Debut
by Bravesin07 on May 3, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
I don't think Tim will walk three, although the four hits look about right. My best guess would be one run.
Now that's not to say that I expect Tim to pitch that way every start. But that is the type of start I would expect him to make a good deal of the time.
Even if he stays up (which I almost can't imagine that he won't), Tim probably won't reach 30 starts. But here are the predictions I made for him a few weeks ago, assuming he got called up soon enough to start 30 games:
IP -- 186
H -- 140
BB -- 75
HR -- 19
K -- 218
ERA -- 3.25
That was when I expected the Giants to keep him on a strict pitch count. Since then I have heard Brian Sabean say that Tim is comfortable throwing 135 to 140 pitches. If the Giants unleash him and his control is reasonably good, I think he could one day lead the league in innings pitched.
Some would say that was a pretty aggressive prediction for a guy with only 69 2/3 innings under his belt. But I have seen him throw 40 2/3 of those innings, and to be honest, I think they are reasonably conservative.
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it Sunday yet?
by fewgoodcards on May 3, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does this mean
by Galt on May 3, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it does
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh Oh
by ufoboy90 on May 3, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
penalty strikeouts
by wily mo on May 3, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OUTSTANDING IDEA
by jrose643 on May 3, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
by wily mo on May 4, 2007 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call it a game
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol the phils would lose
by Bravesin07 on May 3, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
giants would use... bonds obviously... say vizquel, winn, roberts, molina. giants lineup is actually kind of boring for this, they all strike out at pretty much the same rate.
by wily mo on May 3, 2007 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabbath?
by Steve F on May 3, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
winner
by youALREADYknow on May 3, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7th day
by fewgoodcards on May 3, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum rests four days out of five
by lemonjello on May 3, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun....
Hamels vs. Lincecum matchup #1
by bodyiq on May 3, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over / Under
I'm putting it at 5 1/3 IP.
by murraygd13 on May 3, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm over it
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His 2nd start
by Steve F on May 3, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the bay
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the 700 Club...
by Savoy Special on May 3, 2007 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't know...
by Steve F on May 3, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur.
by FI on May 4, 2007 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Prediction
by siddfynch on May 4, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - that could possibly be the Apocalyse...
by Savoy Special on May 4, 2007 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right
by siddfynch on May 4, 2007 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely done
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is your basis for a good prediction...
Just so we're clear, is it "good prediction," like "I think your prediction will come true," or "good prediction," like "I like your prediction, because it makes Tim Lincecum look good, and I live to worship Tim Lincecum?"
My prediction:
5 IP
5 H
3 BB
3 ER
6 K
by ajohnst1 on May 4, 2007 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good prediction
by Galt on May 4, 2007 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get real!
Hey, you don't have to agree with my predictions. I realize they're very optimistic. But have you seen the guy pitch? I haven't really come across anyone who HAS seen him -- including his new major league teammates -- who don't think he is likely to be something special.
I don't believe his Giants teammates gave the nickname "Franchise" to Scott Munter. :)
I have enough faith in Tim that even if he gets bombed this weekend (at least during the game :) I'll still expect him to be great.
I have seen Tim pitch six of his last seven games. In those six games he has yielded a total of two runs.
Many things impress me about Tim. One that impresses me the most is that he is actually pitching BETTER in AAA this season than in Class A or the NCAA last year.
It is my belief that one day you will begrudgingly look back and say, "Well, I guess I have to admit that fool DID know what he was talking about." :)
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you get real!
Have you ever heard of TINSTAAPP? There is no such thing as a pitching prospect. Temper your optimism. Like I said, I understand why you're excited. I would likely be ecstatic if I were a Giants' fan, and I'm disappointed that the Royals didn't take Lincecum number one overall. But come on. You're predicting Tim Lincecum to have a Hall of Fame career based on 7 starts in AAA?
It is my belief that one day you will sink into a suicidal depression after 5'10" max-effort Lincecum blows out his arm. Yeah, the arm that he never needs to ice, that allows him to throw 140+ pitches per start and throw long toss the next day. That arm.
In all seriousness, I don't know if that will happen or if it won't. All I know is that Lincecum has yet to make a major league start, and, until he does, he's not God. He's not even a Hall of Famer. They don't vote you in based on 7 starts in AAA.
by ajohnst1 on May 4, 2007 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you're saying.
I won't go into the reasons again, but believe me, I haven't felt this much excitement from a player since Willie Mays, on whose birthday Tim will make his major-league debut.
by sharksrog on May 5, 2007 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not ready
Maybe when he is able to corral all those walks and be more efficient. K'ing guys is nice and reducing hits as well. But if you can't lower the walk rates why bother? He has a long ways to go before he even reaches Ortiz level.
by pedrophile on May 4, 2007 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Corral those walks?
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
by pedrophile on May 4, 2007 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because ...
by pedrophile on May 4, 2007 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has landed....
131 pitches...blows out elbow in next game.
by uga007 on May 4, 2007 1:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5.7IP 4H 4BB 2ER 7K
by Con on May 4, 2007 2:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My prediction:
0 Hits
0 Runs
0 Walks
27 Strikeouts
82 pitches
1 Wild Pitch that somehow ends up going into left field and hitting Bonds on the knee, effectively ending his career and the pursuit of Aaron. He then becomes America's favorite player, but the Giants still have to trade him for PR sake. They send him to Seattle (where he should have gone) for Horatio Ramirez and Jeff Weaver. Lincecum and Felix are co-Cy Young Award winners for the next 15 years. Baseball is then called Lincefelix for all eternity.
I am neither an optimist, nor a pessimist. Just a realist.
by Boxkutter on May 4, 2007 5:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Demand
by samjjones on May 4, 2007 8:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kerry Wood and Mark Prior
by NewKidInTown on May 4, 2007 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A story.
by Steve F on May 4, 2007 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
40-Man
Who gets outrighted/traded? (I'm saying Niekro)
Timmy: 5.7IP, 4H, 5BB, 8K, 105 pitches.
by Azantor on May 4, 2007 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't be surprised
by samjjones on May 4, 2007 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chulk
by Azantor on May 4, 2007 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niekro
by jponry on May 4, 2007 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
40 man
by DrBGiantsfan on May 4, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
100 pitch limit
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants
by HumboltThunderbolt on May 4, 2007 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should
by realityconquest on May 4, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Prediction
1 H
0 ER
1 BB
4 K
In the middle of the 3rd SharksRog runs onto the field naked and tries to hug "Timmy", Lincecum runs away and severely pulls his hammy (not his timmy). He is able to make his next start. Alas, the emotional scars never fully heal.
by pedrophile on May 4, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the best prediction I've seen so far
by ajohnst1 on May 4, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure
by slurve on May 4, 2007 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plan Foiled!
by sharksrog on May 4, 2007 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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