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Your favorite past prospect that never panned out and why?

I was looking through my NL keeper leagues website tonight at my old rosters.  Think I saw the name Brandon Larson for 3 seasons and I thought what in the hell did I ever see in that guy to think he could hit in the bigs?  Guess I was just wondering who other people thought were can't miss prospects but the guy just never panned out.

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Ruben Rivera
Hensley "Bam Bam" Muelens, Jaun Nieves, Glenn Braggs, Bill Joe Robideaux, Kevin Reimer, Bob Wolcott, George Canale

Rivera was the one I really liked though. I was looking forward to seeing him...everybody was raving about this kid who could play CF like mays and hit 450 foot bombs and we watched him take BP and he hit, like, nothing...foul back, swing and miss, grounder. My buddy said "I have never seen a future star hit this bad in BP" In fact, we had never seen ANYBODY hit this bad in BP. I told him must be having a bad day or something because I had heard such good things about him. Soon I had to admit he was right. He was a legend though and, a hell of an athlete. Just not a hitter. Still playing, I believe.

casedog

by casejud on Apr 23, 2007 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that the guy...
...who stole Jeter's equipment in spring training?

Hilarious.  That alone makes his career worthwhile in my book.  I'm sure he went on to be a doctor or accountant or something once his baseball career fizzled.

http://www.deweyshouse.com

by SmokeyJoeWood on Apr 23, 2007 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy Gobble
Well, he's panning out as a decent reliever, but I thought he was going to be a good #2 or #3 in the rotation. He's a real cool guy and his name is awesome.

by doublestix on Apr 23, 2007 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wil Ledezma
I really thought he was going to turn into a very good or even great starter, but hes settled in as a solid reliver instead.

Could be worse, but still, below my original hopes for him.

by grozzy on Apr 23, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not done yet either
eventually the tigers will stop screwing around with the likes of chad durbin and let ledezma start. he could be a buzzsaw.

by jpahk on Apr 23, 2007 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Petrick
I thought he was going to be the next stud catcher. I watched him in both spring training and class A ball, and I thought so highly of him. He hit well in both 1999 and 2000 in his callups with the Rockies. Then, he struggled suddenly to hit in 2001 and 2002, and the Rox shipped him off to Detroit in the 2003 season, where he didn't manage to turn it around hitting.

He retired in May 2004 and later disclosed that he had been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in 2000. He attempted to play through it and it ultimately was his downfall in a potential promising career. It clearly played a large role in destroying his career.

by bballfanlvnv on Apr 23, 2007 1:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan
Meyer.  and im a Braves fan, not an As one

I know this sounds snobby but I was onto him long before (most) anyone else.  I saw him in May or June in low A-ball, i know he had SOME buzz (as a sandwhich rounder) but he looked GREAT when I saw him.  Low 90s fastball, nice slider, sharp command.  Dominated hitters.

by nms on Apr 23, 2007 1:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eh
The Meyer I fell in love with I'm quite sure to be dead.  Maybe he'll come back, but after all this what are the odds that he'll be anything like he once could have been.

If he can even comeback, and ive seen nothing to suggest that beyond rumors and wishful thinking from A's fanboys, the comeback is much more likely to consist of some journeyman junky lefty reliever innings than anything noteworthy

by nms on Apr 23, 2007 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
he was terrible but pitching with an injury. They removed a huge bonechip in his shoulder so everything should be structurally sound.

There is a possibility he comes back with his stuff.

by pedrophile on Apr 23, 2007 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meyer
Is pitching tonight or tomorrow night for Midland RockHounds.  We will start to get a better feel of how much the bone chip was hampering him.

Hopefully he will be able to be effective again.

by dbimberg on Apr 23, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doug DeVore and Ken Harvey are mine...
  I always really liked them.  Also, I heard something about Meyer doing better...whats the deal?

  Oh yea:  Kit Pellow!

by Rusnakjd on Apr 23, 2007 2:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

um
was Doug Devore really ever much of a prospect?

Im a Hoosier fan, so im rooting for him, but he was a 12th round pick and he was good (in a great hitters park) in AA at 23 but I never heard anyone think he was going to be anything special

by nms on Apr 23, 2007 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

two pitchers
Tim Stauffer and Ryan Anderson

by jeck on Apr 23, 2007 2:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way jumping the gun and others
and it doesn't exactly fit the exact topic of past players. But a guy aside from a few starts (WS game 1) hasn't had the impact I'd expected was Anthony Reyes. It's still way too early too say oh hes never gonna be anything, but I though he would be able to have a more immediate impact. Its cool though, I still think he will turn out to be good. Hopefully.

Two guys that kill me are Jeff Austin and Chris George, probably Kyle Snyder, Colt Griffin, and Dee Brown among others. Wow that list jumped from two to 5 really fast.

by wildthang on Apr 23, 2007 3:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alex Gordon...
that guy was a real bust.
Some people bring the Bible to college...we bring Moneyball.

by uga007 on Apr 23, 2007 3:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But seriously...
Edwin Jackson...that kid had some kind of special arm. Hopefully he can still put it together.

Same goes for Ryan Wagner, he looked like a once-in-a-generation type back in the day.

Some people bring the Bible to college...we bring Moneyball.

by uga007 on Apr 23, 2007 3:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hee Seop Choi
The Korean Richie Sexson...  he was on his way to becoming exactly that, too, for like 3 months with the Marlins.  Then the Dodgers acquired him and stashed him on the bench for a while, never really helped him with his supposed platoon issues.  

And then he got old and apparently forgot how to hit entirely.

..and Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes, I couldn't believe it!  He took her best summer dress out of the closet and tried it on...

"I feel like I've been around long enough at shortstop to be the leader of Jose Castillo." -- Jack Wilson

by delomir on Apr 23, 2007 3:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

choi
yeah, he's one of my faves too.

by jpahk on Apr 23, 2007 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few I liked:
A lot of these guys I acquired for my DMB Team back in 2003 or 2004 and they never panned out. I have a habit of getting players I like, not just players that can help me win.

Tim Redding - Still in the minors, but I am sure a lot of us saw the line from that 12 run, like 2 inning gem he pitched a few days ago.

Rene Reyes - Did well in the minors, but couldn't hit consistently in the majors. Went back and forth from the Rox to the SkySox, and then stopped hitting down there too. Not sure if he even still plays. Still have him on my reserve roster cause I don't want to pay him the money it will cost to release him.

Chris Mabeus - I drafted him as a sleeper back in 04 or 05 I think. He put in a great stint in AA and did well in AAA at Sacramento. Then the next season he seemed to stuggle. He has spent a little time in the majors now, a couple innings I think, but he looks to basically be done.

Ricardo Rodriguez - I traded for him back in 2003 and stuck by him for quite awhile. He would put together some great stretches with the Rangers as recent as 2005, but always got injured. Plus he walked way too many.

Craig Griffey - Yes, Ken's brother. I was big into baseball cards back in the early 90s and got a few of his. Him and his father and brother together, even a hologram set of each of them individually. Apparently Sr. was quoted as saying Craig was the more athletic of the brothers. I guess that shows that sometimes you need baseball players, not athletes.

And a year ago at this time, I would have mentioned Brandon Phillips and Josh Bard. I had given up on them and traded both as throw-ins in deals I made. Boy do I feel foolish now. Also, is it too early to mention Mark Prior?

Also Dan McGwire... oh wait, that was the Seahawks gaff, not the Mariners. Stupid SDSU QBs who are brothers of mashing first basemen in the major leagues!

by Boxkutter on Apr 23, 2007 5:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forgot to mention...
when I traded for Josh Bard, I basically had my pick between him and Victor Martinez. I chose Bard because the reports were he had better defense. This is back in early 2003 when both were listed very high on the Indians prospect lists that I read. Like #2 and #3 or something.

I think I picked the wrong one.

by Boxkutter on Apr 23, 2007 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Horn
I bought an autograph ball of his when I was a kid for $15.  Now I think the signature brings down the value of an otherwise cherry baseball.  

From what I remember he went crazy in his first rotation through the league, then everyone figured out that he couldn't hit a curveball and that's all she wrote.

by Guyute on Apr 23, 2007 6:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

signed balls
I always laugh at my buddy when I see his Pat Mahomes signed ball on his shelf at home.

by murraygd13 on Apr 23, 2007 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Grieve and Jesse Foppert
I'm still cryin' .......

by spindle on Apr 23, 2007 8:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

grieve
is he really a failed prospect? he did win rookie of the year. it's just that he got slightly worse every year after that, until there was nothing left. man, what the hell happened to that guy? he had one of the sweetest swings i've ever seen.

by jpahk on Apr 23, 2007 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas McPherson
Also Ryan Wagner...those were two guys i had to have in my keeper league...needless to say they were wasted picks!

by bunner19 on Apr 23, 2007 8:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Phelps
He was going to be a complete hitter with high contact rates, power, and patience. Never materialized to anymore than a power bat off the bench that can't play defence

by slitheringslider on Apr 23, 2007 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dee Brown
Him and Matt Anderson waisted time on my roster

by fiftydrinker on Apr 23, 2007 9:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BJ Garbe
Top five overall pick, never made it out of AA.

Runners up: Adam Johnson; second overall pick, cup of coffee. Ryan Mills; seventh overall pick, never made it past AAA. David McCarty; third overall pick, no more than a bench player in the majors.

When you look at the performance of the Twins scouting department in the 90's (including Travis Lee and Jayson Veritech not signing), you see how far they have come. Most teams would have fired Mike Radcliff after all those first-round busts. Terry Ryan has been rewarded for his patience with Radcliff.

cmathewson

by cmathewson on Apr 23, 2007 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another Twins spect...
...that I was fond of in the 90s was Bernardo Brito.  

by Gudy2Shoes on Apr 23, 2007 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
I remember him. Best baseball name ever.

by BenB on Apr 23, 2007 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy Ashley
That guy was huge and could hit bombs...If he could just make contact, or field, or run...

by doomeddodger on Apr 23, 2007 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a couple come to mind...
Ryan Anderson because he was a local kid

Matt Anderson - lost to a freak injury tossing an octopus

Justin Thompson - this kid had the makings of a great pitcher, injuries derailed him

Jeff Robinson - ditto

by djshelto on Apr 23, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A Few
Marc Newfield - 6th overall pick, good minor league track record (.349/.410/.593 in the PCL at 21), repeatedly called up too early by the Mariners, then was shipped off to the Padres after a couple bad half-seasons.  Like a few of the Ms´ top draft picks of the 80s/early 90s, he was never really given a chance to succeed.  Put up 1 good half-season with Milwaukee, but that was it.

Roger Salkeld - much like Ryan Anderson, elite pitching prospect until injuries de-railed him.  If he had panned out, the mid-90s Mariners would have been epic.

Just because someone else mentioned Craig Griffey in this thread, I´ll throw a little love to Shawn Buhner, Jay´s little brother.  He signed my glove back when I was about 12.

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by jhelfgott on Apr 23, 2007 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just started following prospects last year
so is it too early to say Marcus Sanders?  I thought he was going to be Delino Deshields by now.

by Galt on Apr 23, 2007 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 Off the top of my head
Phil Plantier
Derrick Gibson

Jerome Walton wasn't a fave of mine, but he certainly didn't end up living up to the hype.

Todd Van Poppel and Brien Taylor had me fooled too.

by killa on Apr 23, 2007 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where do I start... How about Generation K ...
Paul Wilson, Pulsipher, and Isringhausen

Isringhausen has done well as a reliever but did not match my expections as a dominating starter...

by louief1 on Apr 23, 2007 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesse Foppert, Jerome Williams, Kurt Ainsworth
Supposed to be the next big three, but none of their fastballs were as advertised. Hopefully the Giants current "big three" of Cain, Lincecum and Sanchez turns out a little better... (Of course, Cain has already outperformed each one of them, so...)

by jponry on Apr 23, 2007 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Liriano and Bonser
What could have been.

Ok, maybe Liriano is hurt and Bonser doesn't deserve to be in this discussion, but Bonser has a sweet name.

by BlackOps on Apr 23, 2007 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget
Ryan Vogelsong...

by drwmsu1 on Apr 23, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rick Ankiel
Had a great rookie season but completely fell apart in his post-season debut.  This guy was supposed to win a number of Cy Youngs in his career due to a big fastball and nasty curve.  Unfortunately, he could never get over the mental hurdles of not being able to throw a strike and is now trying to get back to the Majors as an OUTFIELDER!

As a Brewers fan, Nick Neugebauer comes to mind.  His 100mph heater had some people saying he could end up being better than Ben Sheets.  Never quite worked out that way!  

"Rule #76. No excuses, play like a champion!"

by andy 5 on Apr 23, 2007 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Hamilton
Too bad the drugs screwed him up. He was gonna be a great one. He'll never make it now.

by greg456 on Apr 23, 2007 10:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's looking pretty good right now
Maybe all he needed was a change of scenery and a second chance.
yanksandmore.blogspot.com check it out

by lemonjello on Apr 23, 2007 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think
all he needed was PT.  He's making the DRays look like a bunch of morons.

by slurve on Apr 23, 2007 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton
Google................sarcasm

by GregJP on Apr 23, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Restovich
Man, this one was personal. The guy went to my high school and obliterated a ton of records, gets drafted by my favorite team--I'm so totally on the Restovich fan bus. And then the Twins start messing with his swing, not really giving him a solid shot, eventually lose him in favor of some bloody third catcher.

He could have been a force in that lineup...

by avehoward on Apr 23, 2007 10:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael "Prime Time" Coleman
A 5-tool Red Sox prospect in the 90's.  
Had awesome talent, but was a head-case (he gave himself the nickname "Prime Time").  

Never really made it past AAAA status, and ended up playing indy ball.

http://www.deweyshouse.com

by SmokeyJoeWood on Apr 23, 2007 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Anderson
"I feel I'll be the best-known pitcher in baseball when I'm done" -Ryan Anderson
Good luck with culinary school Ryan.  

by Con on Apr 23, 2007 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh, so many
A list like this can't be complete without Sean Burroughs.

I also had high hopes for Bud Smith and Jose Ortiz. I'm sure there are many others, I've just blocked them from my memory.

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." -Red Barber

by e 6 on Apr 23, 2007 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bud Smith
At least he can say he threw a no-hitter in the majors.  He has one claim to fame!

by guru4u on Apr 24, 2007 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few
Jose Offerman - never lived to the hype
Calvin Pickering - remember when Bill James predicted he would have a higher OPS than David Ortiz in 2005
Ryan Wagner - thought he would be dominant
Billy Ashley and Karim Garcia - both hyped a bit much when they came up and neither did much

by count sutton on Apr 23, 2007 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yup.
Jose Ortiz and Josh Phelps

by nyybaseball99 on Apr 23, 2007 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Bush
First overall pick; probably won't get out of A ball.
cmathewson

by cmathewson on Apr 23, 2007 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A few
My NL fantasy team took a big hit when I made moves to acquire Rick Ankiel and Dennis Tankersley.  Ankiel's story is well documented, but I still don't know what caused Tankersley's demise.  I couldn't wait for the Peavy/Tankersley 1-2 combo to dominate the NL West for years.  At least I still have Peavy.

But my biggest hometown (Twins) flop had to be when I jocked Adam Johnson as our sure-fire closer of the future.  I think my prognostication of the young fella went something like this, "He's got a pit bull mentality and a wicked slider that he can throw for strikes."  His "pit bull mentality" should have been "egotistical brat who can't handle anything not served on a silver platter" and the "slider...for strikes" should have been "slider...in the dirt, backstop, and anywhere but the strike zone".  Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on my description of what should have been, but he really did peak in college, had attitude and control issues.

by Jaerbesan on Apr 23, 2007 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or
Hanging slider in the middle of the zone.
cmathewson

by cmathewson on Apr 23, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Met fan....
I would have to say the entire farm system from the mid 80's (post Gooden & Strawberry) to 2003, sans Edgardo Alfonzo. Even his tenure ended poorly though, since he was the one player that Steve Phillips actually judged correctly when it came time to sign...

And on a morbid note that transcends Baseball, I was on the Brian Cole bandwagon pretty hard before his untimely death. He was Alex Escobar without the hype, which made him very appealing for prospect watchers. He would've been given a look sooner rather than later, given how bad the Met OF was until just recently...

by MetfanBren on Apr 23, 2007 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Tank
Dennis Tankersley now a 4A pitcher, was once considered on the same prospect status as Jake Peavy. Still rooting for Tank, now with the Detroit Tiger organization in AAA.

by Mike McBride on Apr 23, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marc Newfield
I remember I kept telling anyone who would listen that he was the 2nd coming of Frank Thomas.  Turns out he wasn't even the 2nd coming of Frank Mennechino.  Man, was I wrong on that one!

by dkny22 on Apr 23, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dopirak
I don't think it's too early to call him a full bust, but I was in love with Brian Dopirak after his 80+ XBH season a few years back.  I also probably liked Bobby Seay way more than I should have back in the day.
Will Eli be showering in Evian at last?

by Brickhaus on Apr 23, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A few that come to mind
Ben Grieve, Carlos Pena, Alex Ochoa

by jlost284 on Apr 23, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The trifecta
The three 1st round outfielders from 1989?  Paul Coleman, Earl Cunningham and Jeff Jackson.  My all-time favorite bust Mets 1B Kenji Garcia-Sonofuku.  If you ever get a chance to look at his GCL stats, they will floor you.

by PolkCountyRay on Apr 23, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hee Seop and Clint Everts...
make me sad.

Choi never got a chance, but when he did he mashed. Thing is, all anyone saw was his awkwardness and his K rate and said forget it. He could have been a solid starter for someone.

Everts still has a chance, but he's really had trouble coming back from TJ surgery. He was my favorite player in the '02 draft, and Kazmir's athletic, RH teammate with 3 plus/plus plus pitches.

A couple other guys have been mentioned in this thread. Carlos Pena, all Cubs pitching prospects in the past million years, Nick Neugabauer (sp?), J.M Gold...

Wow theres alot.

by SenorGato88 on Apr 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?
You mean guys like Carlos Zambrano, Rich Hill, Donatrell Willis, Kyle Lohse, Jon Garland, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, Fergie Jenkins.  

Yup, not a single prospect ever there  ...

I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

by WayneCampbell05 on Apr 24, 2007 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Allison
This is a prospect:
The Associated Press reports the Florida Marlins selected P Jeff Allison (Veterans Memorial High School, Mass.) with the No. 16 overall pick in the 2003 amateur draft. Some believed Allison was the best pure arm in the draft... Allison tossed 63 2/3 innings [in high school] without allowing an earned run. He was 9-0, 0.00 with 142 strikeouts and nine walks, surrendering just 13 hits and one unearned run. He also batted .441-2-29.  

This is a prospect on drugs:
The Greensboro News and Record is reporting an arrest warrant was issued in Greensboro, N.C., for former Florida Marlins first-round draft pick Jeff Allison, who failed to appear at a court hearing. Allison was arrested in October and charged with felony possession of heroin and possession of a stolen vehicle. Guilford County Judge Susan Burch issued the warrant and a $2,500 secured bond after Allison missed the preliminary hearing. The charges carry up to four years in prison.

Drugs are bad, m'kay?

Seriously though, stuff like this is sad, and makes you think more of players as people instead of names on a piece of paper or website.

by AucklandGM on Apr 23, 2007 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rule 5
The Reds will take him in the Rule 5 draft a few years from now and he'll win Rookie of the Year.
Will Eli be showering in Evian at last?

by Brickhaus on Apr 23, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Barnes
Only because in my first attempt to start a fantasy baseball league in 1991, my brother selected Brian Barnes in the 8th round of a 4-team league, saying "He's in the minors now, but he's gonna be sweeeeet!!".  Yeah.  

by TigerFanInCleveland on Apr 23, 2007 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Super Joe
What? No Joe Borchard yet?  He was my fav.  Loved him in Bham.   I thought he would have 40 HR potential and now he's a clunky singles hitter.  

by RogoRooter on Apr 23, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, the original Super Joe was
Super Joe Charbonneau! Right, IndiansFan?

1980 AL ROY, then nothing.

"- Not since Joe Charbonneau's rookie year in 1980 did an Indian create such a stir. Charbonneau's talents, however, were G-rated. "Super Joe" opened beer bottles with his eye socket and drank the suds through a straw in his nostril. Tastes great? Less filling? Only Joe knows."
 -http://www.vancourier.com/issues04/102204/sports.html

"He finished the season with 87 runs batted in and a .289 batting average while winning the American League Rookie of the Year award--all in spite of being stabbed with a ball-point pen by a crazed fan as he waited for the team bus on March 8. The pen penetrated an inch and hit a rib, but Charboneau played his first regular-season game just over a month later, on April 11."

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Charboneau

"Dying is no big deal. The least of us will manage that. Living is the trick." - Red Smith

by finman on Apr 24, 2007 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhhh yes....
I completely forgot about him.  That is correct.  I was wondering why I called everyone named Joe "Super Joe"

by RogoRooter on Apr 24, 2007 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy Journell
Never even came close.

by nzach54 on Apr 23, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indians' Busts!
Hello everyone,

Some Indians' busts I can recall -

RHP Tim Drew - the "forgotten" Drew brother never panned out - had a low-90s fastball and was supposed to be quite polished for a HS pitcher, but between being rushed a bit by the Indians and the fact that he never adapted to AAA, he never achieved the success many predicted for him (and has only appeared in 35 ML games between 2000-2004, and didn't pitch anywhere in 2006 after having shoulder surgery, I believe.)

Really, the warning sign should have came in AA - while his H, HR, and BB rates were quite good, his K rate was 3.81 K/9 IP (though admittedly, it was only 9 AA starts - conversely, Jeremy Sowers' AA K rate was 7.65 K/9 IP, more than twice that of Drew's AA K rate.)

Drew's K rate at AAA did "rebound" slightly to 4-5 K/9 IP, but his other numbers worsened, especially his H rate (much closer to or over 9/9 IP.)

Ironically, he had shoulder surgery (I believe) just recently and the Indians were considering resigning him to a Minor League deal if his workout impressed them enough, but I didn't hear anything more about that (this was about 3-4 weeks ago,) so I presume the Indians decided to pass on resigning him.

Others include - as mentioned, Ricardo Rodriguez (command wasn't good enough and his temperament was a bit volatile at times, as well as being stubborn at times as well) and Alex Escobar (didn't make enough contact to allow his power to be useful.)

Others:
3B Russell Branyan - John Hart had the choice between him and Sexson; while Sexson hasn't been Thome's equal, Sexson has been considerably better than Branyan, so I think Hart chose the wrong one.
3B Corey Smith - never put together a full great season, as he was too streaky, plus he had trouble making consistent contact.
RHP Jeremy Guthrie - AAA was too much for him - he breezed through AA his first time, allowing just 6.32 H/9 IP, though a warning sign should have been that he had just a 5.03 K/9 IP rate (that too was just in 9 AA starts, so small sample size, perhaps.)  But, when he got to AAA, much like Drew, he got rocked to the tune of 12.01 H/9 IP, and unlike Drew, gave up 1.40 HR/9 IP.

After several years in AAA, it looked like he broke through somewhat in 2006, with a 7.59 H/9 IP, along with a 0.44 HR/9 IP, a 3.44 BB/9 IP, and a 6.42 K/9 IP rate, but still never fully adapted to the Majors, though the Indians did not give him much opportunity in a starting role, and as a reliever, he was pretty inconsistent (one good outing, followed by 2-3 bad ones.)

I think the Mormon mission that caused him to miss 2 years or so might have had something to do with his struggles - he wasn't as developed with his command as many thought he was when he was drafted, and being that he was away from the game for 2 years, he lost critical development time.  Plus, the fact that Scott Boras got him a ML contract limited the Indians' ability to send him to the Minors, since I believe he only had 3 option years (could be wrong on this,) so the Indians had to rush him somewhat even when they probably knew he wasn't ready to get ML hitters out on a consistent basis.

There are probably others I could think of, and maybe I'll add another post later, but these are the ones that come to mind at the present time.

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Apr 23, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Going a ways back now, but I recall...
thinking that Luis Medina was going to be a good one for the Tribe...

by almantle on Apr 23, 2007 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another one from that period!
Hello almantle,

Yes, Medina is a good example.  Another one from that period that wasn't really an Indians' prospect, but I think was supposed to be a solid to good player was Alex Cole.

He never turned into the projected player that his successor, Kenny Lofton, turned into.  On that one, I think Hart got it right (trade Eddie Taubensee and Willie Blair to Houston for Lofton and Dave Rohde.)  :-)

Just my 2 cents.  

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Apr 23, 2007 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt White
The Rays could have done better with the $10 million.

by johnp63 on Apr 23, 2007 5:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah the memories...
I would have to agree on a bunch of guys who've been named, and would add some of my own:
  1. Mitch Meluskey - I really don't know why he failed, to be honest.  Other than I've heard people didn't like him.
  2. Esteban German - I love leadoff prospects, and I had such high hopes for this guy.  I think he showed some of it in 2006, finally.  But I thought he would have a much more normal career progression.  Defense really held him back, from what I can tell.
  3. Carlos-Ruben Febles-Gotay - What is it about Royals second-base prospects?  I don't know if a guy with 414 career hits can be called a "failed prospect", but I expected much more from Febles.

by BobbyMac on Apr 23, 2007 5:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What about
Midre Cummings..
Every spring training on SportCenter you'd see him going yard with 450 foot bombs, and then April 1 rolled around and he'd never be heard from again....seems like that happened 3 or 4 springs in a row.

Joe Borchard was another, but he's been mentioned already.

by nutworld on Apr 23, 2007 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grant Roberts...
His career went up in smoke, literally...

by MetfanBren on Apr 23, 2007 6:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Harrington
Never even got a chance. His Agent thought he f#^$*@ TR but ended up Fing up his client.
1941 .406

by FrozenTed9 on Apr 23, 2007 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10/2006
Signed minor league deal with Cubs.  Appears to have not pitched yet in 2007.  Did he stick with any of the Cubs' teams, EST?

by cooper7d7 on Apr 24, 2007 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got some good ones for you guys...
Jesus Martinez, youngest brother of Pedro and Ramon.  Pedro at one time said he was going to be the best of the 3 of them, but he never panned out anywhere.  He was in the Dodgers Low Class A in '90-'91 or '91-'92...

Chad Hermanson (SS) Pirates, I thought he would great, but could never hit MLB pitching... AAAA player

Kevin Maas 1B/DH Yankees:  He did have one incredible summer.  Just like Sam Horn though...

Mel Nieves and Mike Kelly of the Braves- the both turned into journeymen and AAAA players...

Lincecum is the truth!

by JT12340 on Apr 23, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jovanny Cedeno
Fantastic pitching prospect with the Rangers, came up around the same time as Joaquin Benoit. Cedeno had a career 2.42 ERA in the minors, but never got past A ball due to recurring injuries.

McPherson is another one I thought would be a star by now.

by RCCook on Apr 23, 2007 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Closer in waiting
good ol' Terry Bross. Could never use the crappy nickname 'Bross Man'...

by akk99 on Apr 23, 2007 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Showing my age
Wes Gardner, who the Red Sox nabbed for Bob Ojeda.
Donnie Sadler
Brian Rose

by Robinson Checo on Apr 23, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Prior
So much potential, so little health...
God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Apr 23, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brien Taylor
I'm pretty sure everyone knows why he didn't work out

by nyy601 on Apr 24, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

other non Yankees
Edwin Jackson
Oliver Perez(pitching good this year though)

by nyy601 on Apr 24, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh
Corey Smith...oh well...I saw him play in the SALLY in 2001, and got his auto 3 times...he didn't mind signing multiples apparently, and then because he was on the visiting team, my mom and I were the only ones rooting for him when he came to the plate in the 9th...he proceeded to smoke a 2-run double that won the game...he pointed towards me as he walkd back to the dugout after the game...so much for heroes...

by daveh33 on Apr 24, 2007 7:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sil Campusano
Just because of the name.

by Flynn Blake on Apr 25, 2007 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my guy
Danny Almonte. Some say he was old for his league, but what do they know!

by Team Moneyball on Apr 25, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, if only...
I could say Carl Pavano and Tony Armas Jr., for their outstanding contributions in the field of Acquiring Pedro Martinez For Boston.  ;)

But is it too soon to say Abe Alvarez?

"What you're forgetting is that you need at least three DWIs before you're considered a 'dominant' drunk driver." (limozeen)

by drjayphd on Apr 25, 2007 1:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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