Winter Meetings Thread

by jonk1982 on Dec 3, 2007 1:46 PM EST Comment 28 comments

I thought it might be a good idea to create one thread to discuss the Winter Meetings. There should be several deals made, and not all of them will be worthy of their own threads. Instead, we can discuss them all here.

First up....

MLB Radio is reporting that the White Sox will acquire Carlos Quentin from the Diamondbacks for Chris Carter.

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Chris Carter?

Isn't he Red Sox property right now?

by dlpme77 on Dec 3, 2007 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

No

He works for HBO

by fartballs on Dec 3, 2007 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

All he does is score touchdowns.

by The Colonel on Dec 3, 2007 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh

and writes the X-Files

by dlpme77 on Dec 3, 2007 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Correction

All he does is score touchdowns and grow his monstrous eyebrows.

by fartballs on Dec 3, 2007 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

no there is another one who is 21 years old

Great deal for Arizona, Carter has huge potential.

by Bravesin07 on Dec 3, 2007 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Did not know that..

no matter, if this is all for Quentin my mind has changed a little about Ken Williams' trade ability. I still feel Quentin is a future star in the making who will have a few all-star appearances.

by dlpme77 on Dec 3, 2007 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Even a blind squirel....

...finds a nut once in a while.

cmathewson

by cmathewson on Dec 3, 2007 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well put

God rested one day out of 7, Felix rests 4 out of 5.

by CrimsonLiederhosen on Dec 3, 2007 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Elijah Dukes

According to someone who was eavesdropping on Jim Bowden, as reported by the St. Pete Times, it sounds like a Dukes to the Nationals trade still may be in the works (even after the trade for Milledge).

If true, I'm not surprised on the Rays' end, even after trading Young. The FO seems to have a very low tolerance for rabblerousers and a need for good character (which would also be a reason for trading Young, and explains the draft philosophy over the past couple years). I guess the Nats could use 4 outfielders, but one would think they'd try to plug some other holes first.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 3, 2007 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Is this is true

The Nats have a huge boom or bust OF. Either the Nats will have a nasty line-up in five years, or will be in constant rebuild. Milledge, Dukes and Pena is sick potentially

by dlpme77 on Dec 3, 2007 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Most combustible clubhouse

Since the '86 Mets, probably.

Seems like Bowden is trying to make the Nationals into the Oakland Raiders of the NL.

by ajohnst1 on Dec 3, 2007 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if memory serves....

...the end result was just fine for that '86 Mets ballclub...

not that the 'Nats are anywhere close to the '86 Mets

by dbimberg on Dec 3, 2007 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Milton Bradley

is still a free agent and would probably come cheap. Any chance they could trade for Jeff Kent?

by Scott Proctor Fan Club on Dec 3, 2007 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if they get dukes

i'd imagine they could put out a better LB corps. maybe even a better offense.

ORGANIZATIONAL DEPTH REPORTS (link fixed)
variables don't; constants aren't

by overlord on Dec 3, 2007 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Estrada

If the Mets non-tender Estrada, the Nats can pick him up on the cheap. Although he's not really combustible, more lazy and fat.

by tyguy20204 on Dec 3, 2007 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Minaya

Offered Estrada "for free" as part of the Milledge deal, and the Nats passed.

by Yakker on Dec 3, 2007 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Reply

Ah, wasn't aware of that.

Maybe they are counting on the fact that they can get him cheaper once he's non-tendered?

I don't know much about the Nationals - who is their main catcher now? Flores?

by tyguy20204 on Dec 3, 2007 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Read it

In one of the reports on the Milledge deal, not sure which one.

Not quite sure what the Nats will do...Flores is the only C currently on the roster, but the rumor is that Washington may be shopping for a free-agent catcher like LoDuca or Barajas.

If he's really cheap, I actually think Estrada could be an OK pick-up for Washington on a 1-year deal. His lack of power wouldn't be as much of an issue in RFK, although his horrendous CS rates last year, if they continue, would be a big problem.

by Yakker on Dec 3, 2007 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

RFK

I believe the Nats new stadium will be ready for '08, so no more RFK (thank God).

by killa on Dec 3, 2007 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

Wow, that would be superb.

by Yakker on Dec 3, 2007 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Link

http://www.jdland.com/dc/stadium.cfm

by killa on Dec 7, 2007 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rule 5

What day does the Rule 5 draft take place on?

by mckeeno on Dec 3, 2007 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

December 6

Thursday, I think. Can anybody confirm that?

by jonk1982 on Dec 3, 2007 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

always is last day of winter meetings

so you are correct

by dlpme77 on Dec 3, 2007 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

In my opinion this is a huge deal for the White Sox. I agree with an earlier post that folks are way too down on Quentin. I think we can all agree that he's a plus fielder, whether it's LF or RF...heck, he could play a little CF too. He also still projects to hit around 270/380/500 with about 25-30 homers annually. He'll also control Quentin's rights for (I think) another 4 years which is right in the thick of his prime as Quentin just turned 25.

Assuming the Sox land one of Jones, Rowand or Cameron, that's one hell of a defensive OF and a very nice offense over last year's model:

Cabrera
Quentin
Konerko
Thome
Dye
CF
Fields
Pierzynski
2B (Uribe?)

Not bad at all.

"When people talk, listen completely. Most people never listen." (Hemingway)

by jmoultz on Dec 3, 2007 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs