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Cameron Maybin, OF, Florida Marlins
Bats: R    Throws: R     HT: 6-3     WT: 200   DOB: April 4, 1987

The centerpiece prospect in the Miguel Cabrera trade, Maybin could be Florida's Opening Day center fielder. I think that is rushing things; he's not ready yet. He had major problems controlling the strike zone during his major league trial late last summer. This is hardly damning: he was just 20 years old, with all of six Double-A games under his belt. In the minors, Maybin showed a good walk rate. He struck out a lot, but his bat speed (and his running speed) kept his batting average high. His production in the Florida State League was excellent with a +23 percent OPS. He's also a very good center fielder. The only real negative I see, other than the elevated strikeout rate, is injuries. He had hamstring problems in '06, and a shoulder injury cost him a month of playing time in '07. His type of wiry-strong body is often prone to muscle pulls and cramps, and that could slow his development a bit. Now, for all of his success, there are some skeptics out there among the stathead community. Maybin hits the ball on the ground a lot, and while this enables him to beat out infield hits with his speed, it may slow his power development. Some people think it may stall his development altogether, although I don't buy that. I'm more worried about the strikeouts eating into his batting average if he is rushed, and the Marlins may very well rush him. If it were up to me, Maybin would go to Double-A to begin '08, with a promotion to Triple-A on tap in late June if he's playing well, then a chance to start in the majors in '09. In the long run, Maybin should be a 20-25 homer hitter with a high batting average, a solid OBP, and 30-40 steals, at least when he's younger. Grade A-.

OK, that's the current draft of the book comment for Cameron Maybin. We seem to have quite a few Maybin skeptics here, and I'm not really sure why. He looks really good to me.

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Love Maybin
As you point out, he was rushed by the Tigers. He's clearly not ready, but he has future superstar written all over him.
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by M Gianella on Dec 15, 2007 4:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice report John
Im not one of those Maybin skeptics either.

by daveh33 on Dec 15, 2007 4:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybin
So he basically hopes to become Alex Rios with a little more speed, a little less power.
Dating Patsy's little sister!

by Jdog on Dec 15, 2007 4:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what about Han Ram meets C Granderson?
...funny thats how i was thinking him...and then he becomes Han-Ram's teammate...[after leaving CGrand]...of course, I think there's a bit of T hunter in there too...

by daveh33 on Dec 15, 2007 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No way
He is the same grade as Jed Lowrie.
Remember: baseball guys... baseball...

by Metty5 on Dec 15, 2007 5:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Granderson 2.0
That's what he will become.  I'm not in a great mood because these weather forcasters changed their forecast from 8-16 inches of snow to 2-4 with over a half inch of ice.  I hate ice storms and this looks like a bad one up here.

by Bravesin07 on Dec 15, 2007 6:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Strikeouts, and groundballs
those are the problems. He can improve on both, but I worry a little if he's rushed to the majors this year.
Todd Frazier for President

by FrazierFan on Dec 15, 2007 8:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Better than Ellsbury
He looks like Eric Davis, including the injuries, to me.  Tremendous upside.  Florida is going nowhere and letting Cody Ross play CF and allowing Maybin to build confidence in AAA sounds best.  The same may be true for Andrew Miller as well.  Both should be perennial all-stars if given a chance to mature carefully.

Ellsbury will be Brett Butler by comparison.  And that ain't bad.

by snuffy on Dec 15, 2007 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ellsbury ain't Butler
Ellsbury is faster, hits the ball harder, and doesn't walk NEARLY as much.  He's a lot closer to Kenny Lofton than he is to Butler.

I like the Eric Davis comp for Maybin, but he's a LONG way from the majors.  The A- grade feels about right until he is tested in the high minors.  (In contrast, Hanley Ramirez had a season and a half at AA.)

Still gotta fix (or further defend) that A- for Lowrie.  As long as it stands, there are going to be a LOT of ongoing complaints. :-)

by Valentine on Dec 15, 2007 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

john loves maybin...
yet hates carlos gomez? based on their similar track records, ages and tools how could you really differ that much on these 2?

in johns words, gomez was badly rushed and might be permenantly damaged because of it while maybin had a poor major league trial yet its "hardly damning"...i guess that "pro-midwest bias" is kicking in hardcore...

by robcast23 on Dec 15, 2007 10:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybin has showin much more power
Gomez hasn't even hit 10 HR's in a season and owns a sub .400 slugging % and .340 OBP.  Maybin has a .370 OBP with a .460 slugging.

by Bravesin07 on Dec 15, 2007 11:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

read the message below this one
thats as good a rebuttal as i could give

by robcast23 on Dec 17, 2007 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Similar track records?
Huh? Show me where Gomez has hit .300, drawn any appreciable amount of walks, or hit for any appreciable power?

Gomez is essentially a great athlete who hasn't shown any plus skill or tool at the plate. Maybin has better discipline and has more power. Don't understand the similarity myself...

Statistically (minors numbers)...

Gomez: 278/336/399
Maybin: 309/397/487

by jc3 on Dec 18, 2007 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

understood
maybin has shown a little more than gomez at the plate (basically just powerwise) but i'm not going to give him much credit over his ability to crush balls into the ground then beat them out due to poor minor league fielding

after that, the difference between the 2 isn't drastic enough for their grades to be very far apart IMO

by robcast23 on Dec 18, 2007 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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Maybin not only has shown significantly more power (isoP .178-.121), he's also shown significantly more ability to get on base, both in raw OBP and BB/PA (101/830 vs. 82/1425). Gomez' raw OBP is also significantly raised by 20 HBP in '06, which looks like a statistical outlier right now.

So, Maybin, although he has shown a propensity for hitting GB, has been a significantly better offensive player throughout his minor league career in raw and component stats and is the darling of many scouts. IMO, he deserves at least a grade higher than Gomez, who in my opinion is a project offensively.

by jc3 on Dec 18, 2007 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His GB's are terrible
I'm a Tigers fan and I rarely ever post around here but do check in a lot at Tiger related material and I've always been a Maybin skeptic. It's not that he just hits GB's, it's that they're at over a 60% clip for his career. That's Willy Tavarez territory. Add that with only 31.8% of his hits going for extra bases (69 of his 217 minor league hits) and you've got a kid thriving on bad defenses and his plus speed in the low minors. It'd be different if his XBH% were up around the 40-45% range but that 30% is just plain troublesome.

by bigmike on Dec 15, 2007 10:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

devil's advocate
The stathead argument would be you haven't shown anything until you've shown it at AA.

by elricsi on Dec 15, 2007 11:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Andrew Miller
Where does he fit in on the Florida list?  I thought he'd be in the top 10?

by squarejaw on Dec 16, 2007 11:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

he's no
longer considered a prospect

by Maverick on Dec 17, 2007 8:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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