Orlando Cabrera for Jon Garland
Interesting trade, I'm curious who will be the perceived winner in this one. The Sox are the team closest to my heart and though it hurts to move a solid pitcher like Garland, they really needed a shortstop to replace Uribe. His defense has started to deteriorate and his offense hasn't been good since the league cracked down on steroids (just a time frame, i won't make any accusations).
From the Angels side (and the prospect side) does this mean we see Wood?
By the way, I saw this on MetsBlog.com, who referenced Baseball Digest Daily (http://bdd.blogharbor.com/blog)
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what was the point for the Whitesox
Link...
Instinctively
I also happen to think this paves the way for Brandon Wood moving back to short and Miguel Cabrera going to the Angels.
Well
park
Garland
- 45.5%
- 47.3%
- 42.1%
- 39.4%
I like the move for CWS.
Right
That seems like way too much.
Cash
I don't know how much extra the Angels are kicking in, but reports indicate that they are paying CWS some cash to take O-Cab off their hands.
For me, leaving aside the deal for a second, paying $12M for a #4 starter is crazy. For that reason alone, moving Garland was a good idea.
Isn't Garland
Ken Rosenthal
Jon Garland, a $13.5M #4 starter...ouch.
Angels Defense
And I think Jon Garland, much like any pitcher, is probably very happy to move away from the Cell.
Is it just me?
Aybar over Wood
Wood would be 3B, but I'm guessing would be a cornerstone in a preferred deal to get Miggy Cabrera.
Kenny
Cabrera is a career .273/.321/.403 hitter, coming into his age-33 season. I don't hate O-Cab, but trading for a guy coming off his career year is usually a bad move. And the Sox have bigger fish to fry with their outfield holes (despite the consternation people have expressed over the wildly inconsistent Uribe). Given how desperate teams are for pitching, I think they could have gotten much more for Garland than 1 year of O-Cab.
this doesn't...
Weren't they being offered Renteria for Garland?
Kenny Williams is not good at his job
Kenny Williams is perhaps one of the worst GMs in the business. This trade proves that he has no idea what he is doing. The free agent market is extremely thin at SP and instead of dealing Garland for future help, he trades for an aging middle infielder. I feel that he could have held out for a lot more in this market. Once again, Kenny makes yet another move that bolsters his aging offense to match with his young pitching. If there ever was a "win now" type offense, the White Sox have it with Konerko, Thome, Dye, and Cabrera all on the wrong side of 30 and matching that with "win later" SP. Kenny gets a pass for 2005 here in Chicago, but that has to end, his teams are awful and the 2008 White Sox will not be any better.
Kenny
Add in the surprisingly low strand rate (65.5% in 2007) and BABIP (.290 for 2007) for Garland, and I'm not sure Kenny didn't take the only deal on the table.
Oh, and
Kenny William's teams are awful ?
Let's see the White Sox just had their first losing season since 1999. And, the flubbbies....ummm...they haven't had a winning decade since the 1930's.
Oh well, no one ever accused a flubs fan of knowing much about baseball.
by White Sox Randy on Nov 19, 2007 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
That's good
White Sox Randy
For those of you outside of Chicago, White Sox fans have serious issues being the #2 team in this fine city. That and they attempt to justify how great the Cell is solely because of the food...just don't go walking around at night down there.
count me among them
...oh...and to get tips on jumping the first base coaches of visiting teams.
i am seriously tired of hearing that cubs fans don't know baseball...that they just go to get tan, tna, and drunk. if you removed all those people (which i admit are there) from wrigley, you'd still have more people than attend 75% of other team's games.
oh, and angels win this deal, phiago. congrats on fatherhood, too, btw.
Wasn't Renteria on the table?
Guess I shouldn't complain; I'm much happier with Jurrjens/Hernandez than I would have been with Garland. :-)
AROD
Another trade?
Tejada
I can't imagine they want Aybar to be the ss going into the season, especially given their primary issue was their offense last year.
Tejada is coming to the Angels, if I had to guess the next move.
JAS
Tejada
That's the exact same package the Orioles rejected a year ago, and although Tejada's trade value has probably gone down slightly, Aybar and Santana had horrific seasons.
I do think a deal gets done, but I think the Angels have to send Wood + Santana + a prospect.
Wood for Tejada
Tejada
His defense is below-average at SS, and his slugging percentage has declined each of the 4 years he's been in Camden:
- .534
- .515
- .498
- .442
I'd stay away.
not well
by The Congo Hammer on Nov 19, 2007 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Paying $12M for Garland AND giving up cash?
Also, to address earlier comments, Garland is not a groundball pitcher and h's now going to a team with one of the worst OF defenses in baseball. Ouch.
Rosenthal
Not as bad as it could have been, but it does seem sorta like rubbing salt in the wound: Chicago gets the better player, sheds a $12M obligation for 200+ league average IPs, and gets $1.5M.
Uribe....
But then again, signing a guy who is the SS equivalent of Tony Batista to a 4.5 million dollar contract makes no sense whatsoever wither
angels
tejada's range and defense are on a decline. plus while has an effective bat, i don't see him being such a vast improvement over say brandon wood in def or offense should wood play ss.
shooting for m.cab on the other hand makes more sense. by acquiring garland the angels can now deal from a very deep pitching for m.cab, who only recently announced that he;s out of shape and will slim down, so maybe he'll play 3b, or else in the of?
i think they'll offer one of their young arms + brandon wood + another prospect, or else young arm + kendrick + another prospect i just don't see them offering kendrick though.
First Boston, now LAA
Friends in Tampa
Hmm..
Or perhaps, despite being a "clubhouse cancer," he just "knows how to win."
No,
Fair enough
not when they are winning
When losing it's a different story.

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