Jays Top 20 Prospects
Don't laugh, Snider + the 2007 draft class probably moves the Jays up from 28th-30th to somewhere in the 21st-23rd range. See link below for stats and analysis.
- Travis Snider, OF
- Brett Cecil, LHP
- Kevin Ahrens, 3B/SS
- Robinzon Diaz, C
- Yohermyn Chavez, OF
- John Tolisano, 2B
- Ricky Romero, LHP
- David Purcey, LHP
- Kyle Ginley, RHP
- Marc Rzepczynski, LHP
- Joel Collins, C
- Eric Eiland, OF
- J.P. Arencibia, C
- Josh Banks, RHP
- Justin Jackson, SS
- Brian Jeroloman, C
- Chi-Hung Cheng, LHP
- Lee Gronkiewicz RHP
- Adrian Martin, RHP
- Sergio Santos, SS
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wow
by krgrecw on Oct 7, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Player Development
The buck stops at a certain Mr. Ricchiardi. Apparently he saw both Romero and Tulowitzki play live once, and then could not be talked out of picking Romero.
Part of the issue there is that he incorrectly thought that that Russ Adams was going to be the answer at SS, and join Aaron Hill in making a very good pair of middle infielders. That just didn't happen.
Having said all of that, I think the 2007 draft was very good, and if next years goes as well the Jays will be somewhere around average in terms of quality of minor league systems.
by GregJP on Oct 7, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's bad
I read this over at battersbox but didn't post, however I don't think this list is all that good. Joel Collins #11 and ahead of JP Arencibia? Diaz #4? Maybe top 10 (only because the system is so bad, especially at the top) but definitely not #4.
Why does Kevin Ahrens get a pass on his poor debut and no love for Arencibia? It's not as though Ahrens has tremendous tools that Arencibia doesn't, they should be together somewhere around #5 I think. Fuenmayor is in a similar situation and probably deserves a spot in the top 20. Gronk should not be there, so far as I'm concerned.
Just cookin' up something quickly my top 10 might look something like:
- Snider
- Cecil
- Romero
- Chavez
- Tolisano
- Ginley
- Arencibia
- Ahrens
- Diaz
- Santos
by GoJays7 on Oct 7, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Catcher
Hopefully at least one of them will develop and be an above average regular for the Jays.
by GregJP on Oct 7, 2007 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blue Jay Catchers
I don't see how Collins or Diaz can be rated ahead of Arencibia. Diaz has no pop and while he doesn't strike out he doesn't walk a ton either. If FirstInning.com is to be believed, he had a GB% of 60% this year (58% last year). He's also the least likely to stay at catcher (I presume, though I really haven't heard too much about Collins' D). On to Collins, in an incredibly small sample size he showed great pop as a 21 year old in the GCL after being picked in the 10th round. Arencibia hit alright (and got better as the year went on, hitting 308/357/440 in August) and has a much longer positive track record as a hitter. While the power wasn't as present this year as could be hoped for, his power is generally considered to be good and I'm not particularly worried.
To have either Collins or Diaz above Arencibia at this point seems like a glaring error to me.
by GoJays7 on Oct 8, 2007 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
justin jackson
by doublestix on Oct 7, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson
I realize he didn't hit a lick, but he apparently plays good defense, drew some walks, and is even a threat to steal some bases.
A project for sure, but his upside clearly makes him top 10 in this system.
by GregJP on Oct 7, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why oh why
i'm so tired of JP's "5 year plan" and arrogance....he should have been fired long ago
by Wheelhouse on Oct 7, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lind
I have really mixed feelings about him. If he could be a bit more selective, he could end up a very useful player. On the other hand, some guys never get over that hump at the major league level.
Hopefully how well he hit the last week will give him more confidence going into spring training next year.
I just wish he had a set position with some guarantee of playing time to see if he's progressed beyond what he was like during his early 2007 stint.
I'd like to see him platoon with Johnson in LF, but I don't really see that happening at this point.
by GregJP on Oct 8, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Fuenmayor?
Also, Thigpen is still a 'prospect' according to BA's definition.
by rhd on Oct 8, 2007 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thigpen
- Ryan Patterson
- Balbino Fuenmayor
by GregJP on Oct 8, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't really like these rankings
I think I recall GregJP bashing me slightly for talking up Ricky Romero on Battersbox.
As for Collins I think he is up there due to being Canadian. He did dominate but as an older player in the GCL. Arencibia played in Auburn at least. Definitely Patterson deserves to be in the top 20 as he basically repeated his AA numbers from last year. He also got off to a poor start in the season and finished off rather strong to get his numbers at least respectable.
by achengy on Oct 8, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bashing
You just made it seem like Romero was on track to be a 2/3 starter, and I just don't think that's very realistic at this point.
I don't think he would make a top 200 prospects list at this point.
by GregJP on Oct 8, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
saw him pitch
by SoCalSoxFan on Oct 9, 2007 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you did call me a homer
Romero probably won't do well in the rankings but it's still too early to give up on him from a Blue Jays perspective. He does rank higher then most Jays prospects though in comparison to guys like Purcey who I've given up on.
It's still possible for Romero to become a 2/3 but it is quite bleak. If he can put it together this fall and '08 he'll be back on people's radar. -This just me being optimistic!
by achengy on Oct 9, 2007 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins.
by metafour on Oct 10, 2007 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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