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Jays Top 20 Prospects

Don't laugh, Snider + the 2007 draft class probably moves the Jays up from 28th-30th to somewhere in the 21st-23rd range.  See link below for stats and analysis.

http://www.battersbox.ca/

  1. Travis Snider, OF
  2. Brett Cecil, LHP
  3. Kevin Ahrens, 3B/SS
  4. Robinzon Diaz, C
  5. Yohermyn Chavez, OF
  6. John Tolisano, 2B
  7. Ricky Romero, LHP
  8. David Purcey, LHP
  9. Kyle Ginley, RHP
  10. Marc Rzepczynski, LHP
  11. Joel Collins, C
  12. Eric Eiland, OF
  13. J.P. Arencibia, C
  14. Josh Banks, RHP
  15. Justin Jackson, SS
  16. Brian Jeroloman, C
  17. Chi-Hung Cheng, LHP
  18. Lee Gronkiewicz RHP
  19. Adrian Martin, RHP
  20. Sergio Santos, SS

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justin jackson
I like him a whole lot better than that, despite his mediocre debut in the GCL. Seriously, I think the guy is going to be a stud, love his tools. He needs to hit the weight room for sure, but so do most youngsters.

by doublestix on Oct 7, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Jackson
I totally agree with you.  I would have him somewhere in the 8-10 range for sure.

I realize he didn't hit a lick, but he apparently plays good defense, drew some walks, and is even a threat to steal some bases.

A project for sure, but his upside clearly makes him top 10 in this system.

by GregJP on Oct 7, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

why oh why
romero over tulo was dumb then and ridiculously dumb now! smacking him in at SS would look so sweet for the jays......but hey, then we would have missed out on the royce clayton experiment! who knows what is in store for next year!

i'm so tired of JP's "5 year plan" and arrogance....he should have been fired long ago

by Wheelhouse on Oct 7, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Lind
Not a prospect any more, but I thought I would throw Adam Lind into the discussion.

I have really mixed feelings about him.  If he could be a bit more selective, he could end up a very useful player. On the other hand, some guys never get over that hump at the major league level.

Hopefully how well he hit the last week will give him more confidence going into spring training next year.

I just wish he had a set position with some guarantee of playing time to see if he's progressed  beyond what he was like during his early 2007 stint.

I'd like to see him platoon with Johnson in LF, but I don't really see that happening at this point.  

by GregJP on Oct 8, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

No Fuenmayor?
I know he had a bad year, but I would think he at least rates a spot on the Top 20 for this club.  I would think Ryan Patterson, too.

Also, Thigpen is still a 'prospect' according to BA's definition.

by rhd on Oct 8, 2007 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Thigpen
Thigpen wasn't included because of the number of days he's spent on the major league roster.
  1. Ryan Patterson
  2. Balbino Fuenmayor  

by GregJP on Oct 8, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't really like these rankings
I'll just do one for Bluebird Banter by the end of the week.

I think I recall GregJP bashing me slightly for talking up Ricky Romero on Battersbox.

As for Collins I think he is up there due to being Canadian. He did dominate but as an older player in the GCL. Arencibia played in Auburn at least. Definitely Patterson deserves to be in the top 20 as he basically repeated his AA numbers from last year. He also got off to a poor start in the season and finished off rather strong to get his numbers at least respectable.

by achengy on Oct 8, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Bashing
I don't think I really bashed you.  :-)

You just made it seem like Romero was on track to be a 2/3 starter, and I just don't think that's very realistic at this point.

I don't think he would make a top 200 prospects list at this point.

by GregJP on Oct 8, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw him pitch
in college and he didn't wow me. . .saw lincecum the same year ( i think, and he had the wow factor, even ian kennedy impressed me more, and his senior year wasn't really spectacular)

by SoCalSoxFan on Oct 9, 2007 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well you did call me a homer
or imply that I was which was enough to slightly irritate me.

Romero probably won't do well in the rankings but it's still too early to give up on him from a Blue Jays perspective. He does rank higher then most Jays prospects though in comparison to guys like Purcey who I've given up on.

It's still possible for Romero to become a 2/3 but it is quite bleak. If he can put it together this fall and '08 he'll be back on people's radar. -This just me being optimistic!

by achengy on Oct 9, 2007 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Collins.
Collins is up there because he was one of the top defensive catchers in college, he threw out something like 50%+ of attempted base-stealers.  Combine defense + a super strong start hitting and you get a prospect jump way higher than he should.  I say that because Collins' hitting cooled big time and he did dominate a league full of teenagers.  IMO it was pretty ridiculous that he was ranked ahead of Arencibia, no matter what way you look at it.  Collins is a sleeper-prospect to watch (same school as Adam Lind) but I knew he was going to get overhyped.

by metafour on Oct 10, 2007 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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