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Jeri's Big, Huge Question O' the Day

I haven't been paying a lot of attention to baseball this year.  It seams that I've hardly been aware of the season.  

Come to think of it, I missed last season, too...I haven't been to a game since the very beginning of the 2005 season.  Between last year's pregnancy and the morning sickness of doom, and the move, et al from this season, I've hardly had time to even think about going to a game.

John has gotten to several games, but not nearly as many as he likes.

Now, I don't breathe baseball like I'm certain a lot of you do.  However, I miss going to the games.  

I don't like watching the game on TV.  I feel absolutely no connection to a televised game.  I can't see the entire field at once, I only get to watch the pitches the camera man wants to show, and watching baseball from the comfort of my sofa just seems boring.

I enjoy the atmosphere of the game as much, actually more, than the game itself.  I just really love being at the stadium.

I strongly suspect that the fact that I only will watch games in person means that I'm probably not a 'true' fan of Baseball, at least in many circles.  I'm good with that.

What about you guys?  Do you get satisfaction from watching a game on TV?  Is there anyone who PREFERS the TV game to the live game?

And lastly, what kind of things have kept you out of the ballpark for a season, or at least a good part of one?

Thanks for playing along...

JERI (John's wife)

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Not really
The benefit I see from TV in comparison to in person is the ability to watch replays, since they don't show them at stadiums nowadays. Aside from that, as long I'm not in the dead nose-bleed section, I'm fine in the stadium

by sagecoll on Sep 26, 2006 12:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the money
being a poor student and a yankee fan, the only tickets you can get (when the game isnt sold out, as it pretty much always is) are in the nosebleed section.

TV does have its benefits, clean bathrooms, much cheaper food and drinks, a big couch, and when its a blowout i can watch something else.

but its much better being at the game.

by donniebaseballman on Sep 26, 2006 12:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitches
You get a better sense of location and movement on TV, but that's about it.

by Yakker on Sep 26, 2006 12:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

$$$ is huge
There are certainly benefits of TV.  It is much easier to "scout" a pitcher on TV, because the view from directly behind the pitcher is much better than any seat I'm going to have at the park.  Also, the price of food - and beer - makes watching games at home much easier.

Obviously going to the ballpark is more fun, but I'm happy to watch many games on television.

by Dfarth on Sep 26, 2006 1:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TV
as already stated...the advatanges of watching a game on TV are being able to see replays and also being able to see the location and movement of a certain pitch...as well as being in the comfort of your own home, and if you enjoy the broadcasters, it makes it even better

and for those reasons i DO prefer watching games on TV, thats not to say i dont enjoy going to the park, but if i were to choose between watching 162 games on TV or 162 games at the stadium, i'd go TV

by nyybaseball99 on Sep 26, 2006 1:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couch versus Park
I live in NYC and have been to a bunch of major and minor league stadiums in the NE, as well as the 3 SoCal major league teams, but that was almost 20 years ago.  I have a mini plan for the Mets (one game a month).

Anyway, 1 Met game a month is all I can take at Shea.  $13.00 parking, huge traffic, expensive everything, yeesh.  I actually prefer the games there when the stadium is only half full.  I have a ticket to game 1 of the NLCS and for one game that will be fun, because when Shea is really rocking, it is almost frightening.  The stadium actully shakes between the crowd and the airplanes.

I also have the Sunday package for the Staten Island Yankee games, and that is great.  I really look forward to those games, and the stadium is usually half full.  If it was a sellout, then I doubt I would like it as much.

I made a trip to the new stadium at Pittsburgh, and that is just unbelieveable.  I would love to have season tickets to that place, even if it was sold out.

So, in closing, I prefer minor league stadiums normally, or I'll just have the TV on in the background.

P.S. I love those baseball gamecasts on the internet.

by elricsi on Sep 26, 2006 1:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time...
That's probably the biggest constraint and I weight that against how much I really want to go to the game.  Time to get there more than anything.  

I actually enjoy the game MORE when the Cardinals aren't playing.  Less stressful.  

by Brock20 on Sep 26, 2006 1:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball vs. Football

While I prefer seeing a baseball game in person, I far prefer watching a football game on TV.  It must have to do with greater distances between players on a baseball field than between players on a football field.

by Statprof98 on Sep 26, 2006 1:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stadium vs. TV
I can deal with watching ballgames on TV.  However... being at the stadium is so much better... and in some ways I like listening to games on the radio better than watching on TV.  But I can still get satisfaction from watching a game on TV.

What things have kept me out of the ballpark for a season?  Um, how about living four hours from the nearest major league ballpark?  I can go to minor league games, too, which is okay if the ballpark's nice.  The park in Memphis is top-notch, and the park in Jackson is okay, but at least it's been built recently.  The old ballpark in Nashville is what I think of when I think of typical minor league ballparks... old, decrepit, advertisements all over the fence.

by Tcs5384 on Sep 26, 2006 1:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball on Radio
I also enjoy listening to games on the Radio.  Come playoff time, I do tend to migrate to the TV when possible, but in general I will pass on the TV broadcast and instead listen to the radio.

Of course, nothing beats being at the stadium.  I haven't yet listened to the broadcast while at the stadium, but could see me doing it.  Does that make me a geek?

by dbimberg on Sep 26, 2006 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geek?
No way it makes you a geek.  Listening to the radio while at the game is the best of both worlds.  I do that once every few years, though the last time was that Gem Schmidt threw against the Marlins in the '03 playoffs.  (I still can't believe Cruz dropped the ball...)  But hey, if you end up near the park, can't beat an SRO, a beer and Jon Miller on the radio.  And speaking of playoffs, during 2002 I had to mute the TV because Tim McCarver was driving me nuts.  No disrespect to the guy, he was a helluva catcher, but his color skills suck.  

Biggest thing that keeps me from the park is a 2 hour drive to San Francisco, and the $100 it's gonna cost me for 2 people to go.  Gotta pay for college man...

"I'm not arrogant, I'm good." - Barry Bonds

by Azantor on Sep 26, 2006 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TV - The whole experience
A season lasts a long time.  Over the course of a year most of see more games on TV than we do in person.

If your team has a good set of announcers, the year becomes a shared experience.  The fans and the announcers have been through a lot from April to September. You've exulted in your team's successes, you're depressed by the lefty who can't seem to throw a strike when you have a two-run lead in the late innings.  You laugh at the silly things that go on in the stands.  By this time of year, you're getting ready for the playoffs together, or you're planning what you need to do in the offseason to get ready for next year.

I love going to the park -- there's nothing to match the beauty of a ballfield and the excitement of a tense game, but it's listening to the games on the radio and watching them on TV that make you a fan.

In San Francisco we are blessed with John Miller, Mike Krukow, Dwayne Kuiper and Dave Fleming.  They're like family.  We're all bitterly disappointed at the season, but we laugh and cry together because we know there's always a next year, and we know we've got each other.

by 3Com Park on Sep 26, 2006 2:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rating the experiences
I'd put them in this order...
  1. a AA game - best prospects, less retreads, minor league atmosphere
  2. AAA game - minor league atmosphere, majority of names you know and can follow
  3. Spring training (especially in Vero Bch)
  4. Live MLB Game
  5. A Ball - Lo or Hi, doesn't matter
  6. Game on TV
  7. Game on radio
  8. Game on MLB.TV
  9. Gamecast on espn
Just because it's 8th, doesn't mean I don't enjoy that too... Just an order of preference.  I will do almost all of these at some point each week.

I'll also combine 6 (internet radio) & 8, but usually there's a lag issue that's a bit frustrating

If it wasn't for disappointments, I wouldn't have any appointments.

by kings33 on Sep 26, 2006 2:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a well reasoned list...
That I have to agree with.  Copied and pasted that to some friends as the ideal list.  

by Brock20 on Sep 28, 2006 8:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

satellite
I am pretty much an avid watcher of the baseball package. I love to surf the games but mainly I look for the best pitching match-ups. The main game for me is usually the Yankee game but not always.

As far as going to the games I live close to Ameriquest Field in Arlington and it's very easy to get in and out of quickly which makes it pretty convenient. A very pretty ballpark with not much energy. Nothing like Fenway which is where I was born and raised. Not Fenway per say but the Boston area..  

I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd rather watch baseball on T.V. but if I had Yanks tickets or something I'd rather be at the stadium. Does that make sense?

"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical" - Yogi Berra

by the pinstripes on Sep 26, 2006 4:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortune
I stopped going to MLB games because I am a curse upon my local team, the Twins. I kid thee not. 26 games attended, 26 losses. Why take that chance?

So it's television for me (or even better, on a long evening drive, the radio)

by avehoward on Sep 26, 2006 4:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW
You have to be kidding thats amazing.

by goalieguy on Sep 26, 2006 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish
I wish that I were kidding, but I'm not.

by avehoward on Sep 27, 2006 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I thought I had the loser's lurgy
Red Sox are 1-4 when I'm in attendance.  That win was my first game (1999, The Phenomenal Bret Saberhagen beats the Yankees 4-1), and they'd gotten killed in the last three of those losses (aside from the rally in the last one, this season, when Clement done got tagged by the Blue Jays).
"What you're forgetting is that you need at least three DWIs before you're considered a 'dominant' drunk driver." (limozeen)

by drjayphd on Sep 28, 2006 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stadium
is far better in my opinion, whether it's the majors or the Northwoods league.  I have trouble connecting to the game on TV unless I have a particular interest in the team or one of the players.  Also, I usually go to games with friends, and watch them on TV alone, so that doesn't help the situation.  Unfortunately, I'm an hour and a half from the nearest major league team, and the combination of time and money has kept me away from all but a couple of games this year.  But I'm going tonight, Twins v. Royals!

by Doug on Sep 26, 2006 4:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stadium, Radio, TV
Second to seeing a game live (and only by a nose) is listening to a game on the radio.  TV doesn't compare to either, but since I don't live near my team I certainly will watch a game when they're on ESPN or Fox.  But I guess money speaks and I've spent it on XM (to hear their games) not Direct TV's baseball package (to see their games).

Things that keep me away: only passing interest in my local teams, $$$, commuter traffic.

by Roger on Sep 26, 2006 4:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I prefer TV
Because living in southern California I get to listen to the wonderful Rex Hudler... NOT!

Being at the game is better.

by niallmack on Sep 26, 2006 5:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stadium
I love going to the stadium, but living three hours away, and dealing with the heat here in Texas makes it easier to stay at home.  I get to games in April and May, and sometimes late September, but I won't go from June to August anymore, the beer is too expensive to drink when its that hot.

BTW Jeri, my wife will only watch the games in the stadium also.

On a side note, we went to the CWS this year, and it was so crowded that you had to be in line two hours before the games, and they can't sell beer at the game, and the off field entertainment isn't as grand as a MLB game, but to be in that ballpark at about the time the sun goes down, and the temperature drops about 5-10 degrees is so worth it, that I recommend making the trip, but not for the whole tournament, because well thats a lot of baseball.

by JFP on Sep 26, 2006 6:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where in texas
houston or arlington?
"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical" - Yogi Berra

by the pinstripes on Sep 27, 2006 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arlington
I live three hours from Arlington.

by JFP on Sep 28, 2006 10:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arlington
I love the ballpark. Love the food. Love the easy accessibility before and after the game but I hate the fact is has no pulse. I miss going to a game and feeling the electricity like in New York or Boston.
"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical" - Yogi Berra

by the pinstripes on Sep 28, 2006 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question - seems like right place to ask
I was thinking of getting XM to listen to baseball next year, is it worth it?

by goalieguy on Sep 26, 2006 9:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absolutely!
I have XM to listen to the games, and I love it!  I love being able to flip through all the games.  This is especially fun on long car trips.

And, they do have a show on MLB HomePlate that recaps the games and brings you live  updates.  This is interesting when you are not particularily interested in a specific game.

by dbimberg on Sep 26, 2006 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes
it's worth it if you're in the car a lot. I love listening to games on the radio. I just don't get the opportunity anymore.
"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical" - Yogi Berra

by the pinstripes on Sep 27, 2006 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Sheehan
Joe Sheehan of BP wrote about this last week. He described the pleasure of watching numerous games on TV that allowed him to see so much more in one night in front of the TV than he could have seen at the ballpark.

Don't get me wrong, I love the ballpark, but I watch several games a night with the baseball package and there is a grand amount of enjoyment to do that.

I won't get married until the Red Sox win the World Series. AGAIN!!

by Shep on Sep 26, 2006 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like games on TV
I can just better see what's going on, I get a nice seat, the beer is of reasonable price. But I've never had the priviledge of super awesome seats like behind home plate or anything.

I couldn't take going to Dodger Stadium 81 times a year. There is a reason Dodger fans show up late and leave early, that place is a huge pain in the ass to get in and out of. Even if you get off the freeway at 6:30, you won't be in your seat by 7:10. Factor in paying for parking and too much for food, forget it. I got a nice tv for a reason.

I gotta admit, Angel Stadium I could do regularly. Right off the freeway, not in some downtown area, stadium is nice, and it's not in LA so the traffic is much better. You just have to look real hard to find the 5 fans who cared about the team in 2001.

I did the drive to Petco this year. That was nice. The drive down to San Diego is always nice, and the park is really nice. It's downtown though, the only bummer about that. I'm still hoping the fact that I was at the game in which Billingsley debuted will mean something one day.

by MindRevolution on Sep 26, 2006 11:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Television
Oddly, for me, baseball is about the ONLY thing I enjoy on television. Even though I love going to the ballpark, sometimes I would RATHER watch the game on T.V. or listen to it on the radio (or both but you have to turn the TV sound off or that delay thing drives you crazy). I don't think it makes you any less of a fan if you prefer one medium (ballpark, TV or radio) over another. The one thing that actually changed and enhanced my appreciation of the game was my getting exposed to the minor leagues about 7 or 8 years ago. Becoming interested in future players makes you more interested in FO decisions and roster management and all kind of things that make you a year long fan instead of a fan just during the major league season.

And my purchase of XM this season has been wonderful.

by exileincincy on Sep 27, 2006 7:52 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TV vs live
First and foremost, I LOVE going to Little League games, because I get to watch my son play. (Don't worry, though, I'm not one of those high pressure dads.)

Second best is a minor league game. We don't get to many, because we live in Oakland, but two or three times a year we drive down to San Jose to watch the Giants play the Stockton Ports (little Giants vs. little A's). The San Jose stadium is an absolutely delightful throwback to another era (I believe it opened in 1942) and it's just good, clean fun--especially when they smash the truck's headlights!

Third best is an A's game, non-Yankee or Red Sox variety. I simply refuse to attend games where half (or more) of the crowd is rooting for those teams.

TV next, with the sound off. Sorry, Ray Fosse.

Internet next, because I can 'distance' myself from the onfield activity. This is very important during a tense pennant drive. (The laptop got a workout this week.)

Finally, radio. The A's have a great announcer in Ken Korach, but more Fosse plus nothing to look at equals boredom.

by JohnSeal on Sep 27, 2006 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TV, Radio, and the Yard
I like watching a Dodger game on mute and turning on the radio so I can hear Vin Scully.

Other than that, nothing beats going to a game.  It's great.  In the KC area, nothing can beat getting a Sheboygan brat.  In LA, it's all about getting a Dodger dog.  Camden Yards has the best pretzel in baseball.  The beer man in the Colorado rock pile gave an excellent discourse about the dark times - the land before beer.  And the Jackson Generals have the best sumo race during the 7th inning stretch.  These are all experiences that cannot be duplicated at home.  Comfort at home is certainly great, but experiences at the yard are irreplaceable.

by count sutton on Sep 27, 2006 5:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TV
Watched stuff on TV, but got married this summer and still managed to go to Fenway twice, once on the monster.

by ChrisRef19 on Sep 28, 2006 8:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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