Zach Greinke Pitch-by-Pitch
The trip to Wichita was very successful. I will have a report for John Sickels Newsletter subscribers later today or tomorrow.
For today, I want to post something that I hope you find interesting. Zach Greinke pitched seven strong innings for Wichita Saturday night. I charted the first six innings pitch-by-pitch, using my radar gun and taking notes. Here it is:
Zach Greinke vs. Corpus Christi Hooks, Saturday August 19, 2006
FIRST INNING
Hitter: Josh Anderson
Fastball, 87 MPH, inside corner, called strike 0-1
Fastball, 89 MPH, low in the zone, swinging strike 0-2
Fastball, 87 MPH, low and outside, ball 1-2
Fastball, 91 MPH, fouled away, 1-2
Fastball, 86 MPH, inside, 2-2
Fastball, 88 MPH, called strike three, one out
Tike Redman
Fastball, 88 MPH, called strike, 0-1
Fastball, 92 MPH, inside, ball, 1-1
Fastball, 89 MPH, called strike, 1-2
Fastball, 88 MPH, grounded to first base, 3 unassisted, 2 outs
Hunter Pence
Fastball, 89 MPH, fly ball to right fielder, 3 outs
SECOND INNING
Josh Bonifay
Slider, 84 MPH, called strike, 0-1
Fastball, 89 MPH, outside, ball, 1-1
Fastball, 89 MPH, swinging strike, 1-2
Slider, 83 MPH, fouled away, 1-2
Fastball, 94 MPH, low in the zone, ball, 2-2
Fastball, 92 MPH, fouled away, 2-2
Fastball, 91 MPH, swinging strike, one out
Jorge Cortes
Slider, 83 MPH, low, ball, 1-0
Fastball, 88 MPH, low, ball, 2-0
Fastball, 88 MPH, outside, ball, 3-0
Fastball, 87 MPH, called strike, 3-1
Curveball, 79 MPH, fouled away, 3-2
Fastball, 92 MPH, fouled away, 3-2
Fastball, 87 MPH, fouled away, 3-2
Slider, 84 MPH, low, ball, walk
Jonny Ash
Fastball, 88 MPH, low, ball, 1-0
Curveball, 75 MPH, ground ball, 4-3 fielders choice, 2 outs
Mark Saccamano
Fastball, 89 MPH, low, ball, 1-0
Fastball, 87 MPH, low, ball, 2-0
Fastball, 91 MPH, right down the middle but called a ball by the umpire, 3-0
Fastball, 87 MPH, low, ball, walk
Wade Robinson
Slider, 84 MPH, called strike, 0-1
Fastball, 93 MPH, swinging strike, 0-2
Fastball, 90 MPH, low, ball, 1-2
Fastball, 91 MPH, 6-4 fielders choice, 3 outs
THIRD INNING
Kevin Davidson
Slider, 81 MPH, fly ball to left field, 1 out
Anderson
Changeup??, Indistinct pitch, 81 MPH, bunted to catcher, ERROR, runner to third base
Redman
Fastball, 91 MPH, fouled way, 0-1
Curveball, 76 MPH, single to right field, run scores
Pence
Slider, 82 MPH, ground ball to third, 5-4 fielder's choice, 2 outs
Bonifay
Slider, 85 MPH, EXCELLENT pitch, swinging strike, 0-1
Fastball, 92 MPH, swinging strike, 0-2
Fastball, 94 MPH, swinging strike, 3 outs
FOURTH INNING
Cortez
Fastball, 87 MPH, outside, ball, 1-0
Fastball, 88 MPH, smashed to center, HOME RUN, run scores
Ash
Fastball, 88 MPH, outside, ball, 1-0
Slider, 81 MPH, ball, 2-0
Fastball, 88 MPH, called strike, 2-1
Fastball, 89 MPH, fouled away, 2-2
Fastball, 93 MPH, ground ball to third base, 5-3 putout, 1 out
Sacamanno
Fastball, 90 MPH, fouled away, 0-1
Fastball, 91 MPH, outside, ball, 1-1
Fastball, 91 MPH, low?? Looked like a good pitch called ball, 2-1
Fastball, 91 MPH, fouled away, 2-2
Changeup, 80 MPH, swinging strike, excellent changeup, strikeout, 2 out
Robinson
Fastball, 88 MPH, called strike, 0-1
Fastball, 90 MPH, outside, ball, 1-1
Fastball, 87 MPH, fouled away, 1-2
Changeup, 80 MPH, swinging strike, excellent pitch, strikeout, 3 outs
FIFTH INNING
Davidson
Fastball, 87 MPH, fouled away, 0-1
82 MPH, indistinct pitch, low, ball, 1-1
Fastball, 90 MPH, low, ball, 2-1
Slider, 85 MPH, fouled away, 2-2
Curveball, 75 MPH, bounced to shortstop, 6-3 putout, 1 out
Anderson
86 MPH, indistinct pitch, acted like a cutter, fouled away, 0-1
Fastball, 92 MPH, grounded to shortstop, 6-3 putout, 2 out
Redman
Fastball, 88 MPH, hit hard to right field gap, double
Pence
Curveball, 75 MPH, called strike, 0-1
83 MPH, indistinct pitch, acted like a splitter, swinging strike, 0-2
Fastball, 90 MPH, outside, ball, 1-2
SLOW curve, 65 MPH, wild pitch, runner moves to third, 2-2
86 MPH, indistinct pitch, acted like a cutter, ball in the dirt, 3-2
SLOW Curve, 71 MPH, looked like a definite strike but called a ball by surprised umpire, runner draws walk
Bonifay
Fastball, 89 MPH, swinging strike, 0-1
Fastball, 93 MPH, fouled away, 0-2
Fastball, 91 MPH, grounded to shortstop, 6-3, 3 outs
SIXTH INNING
Cortes
Fastball, 88 MPH, fouled away, 0-1
Fastball, 90 MPH, outside, ball, 1-1
Curveball, 75 MPH, grounded to second base, 4-3, 1 out
Ash
Fastball, 90 MPH, outside, ball, 1-0
Curveball, 79 MPH, outside, ball, 2-0
Fastball, 86 MPH, called strike, 2-1
Fastball, 86 MPH, called strike, 2-2
Fastball, 86 MPH, grounded to shortstop, ERROR, runner to second base
Sacammano
Fastball, 90 MPH, fly ball to right field, 2 out
Robinson
Fastball, 86 MPH, low, ball, 1-0
Fastball, 87 MPH, outside, ball, 2-0
Fastball, 90 MPH, fouled away, 2-1
Fastball, 91 MPH, bunted to pitcher, throws to first base, 3 outs
So, what do you guys think of his pitch sequences? I noticed that Greinke was working his fastball low in the strike zone most of the time. He looked confident on the mound, and didn't get rattled with runners on base or when his fielders made bad plays behind him. As usual for Greinke, he seemed able to dial up his fastball into the 92-94 range at will, but preferred to work a bit slower than that to pace himself. All in all, he reminded me a lot more of the confident young moundsman of 2004 than the rattled thrower of 2005. Word from Wichita and Kansas City sources is that he has made great progress in working through his psychological issues, although of course we'll have to see if that actually pans out in the long run.
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Re:
Looking at his overall resume since the start of July, it appears that Greinke is getting back on track after last year's trainwreck. It's easy to forget that he is still only 22 years old, so I think Dayton Moore is taking the right approach with him by being patient and having him gain confidence in the Texas League.
If Greinke can work through his psychological issues, which certainly isn't a guarantee, I think he can still develop into a legit top of the rotation guy. An argument could be made that Greinke is more important to KC's future success than Alex Gordon is.
by eazyb81 on Aug 21, 2006 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pence
by jonpyardi on Aug 21, 2006 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the Update John...
by yanksfan6129 on Aug 21, 2006 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hard to get worked up about
by nms on Aug 21, 2006 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Greinke's pitch selection
by royalsfan7 on Aug 21, 2006 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great
I think he is a very unique pitcher who knows how to pitch. It's clear that he can throw in the 93-94 range if he wanted to but works in the high 80s to better locate his fastball.
He is still only 22 and if he can keep it together mentally, I think he will be very successful. Interested in how he finishes out the season.
by yoda1 on Aug 21, 2006 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fastball
I miss seeing those 65 mph curves.
by count sutton on Aug 21, 2006 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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The Maddux comparisons have always been thrown around when discussing Greinke, but guys like Maddux are very rare.
by eazyb81 on Aug 21, 2006 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
by nms on Aug 21, 2006 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re:
by royalsfan7 on Aug 21, 2006 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at the 5th and 6th inning
use your breaking ball and change if you want to do that and keep your velo up on the FB to keep hitters overmatched and make the diffence between the FB and CH bigger
by nms on Aug 21, 2006 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re:
by royalsfan7 on Aug 21, 2006 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Maddux
I have not seen a Maddux comp in a long time, so I'm not sure what the debate is even about.
by count sutton on Aug 21, 2006 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
by samjjones on Aug 21, 2006 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
I know everyone knows this - but the velocity/command trade off is really all about what happens when the pitcher makes a mistake. If he's not making any in the 87-89 range he'll be fine. But, who other than a select few (Maddux, 2005 version of Pedro) make so few mistakes that they can work at that speed? Not sure if it'd be good for his development but I'd love to see him in KC before the end of the year...
by Dfarth on Aug 21, 2006 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KC this year would be a mistake
Let him finish out the season at AA. Maybe pitch in AFL to keep the rust off and invite him to Spring Training if he is mentally ready. Start off at AAA and then see what happens.
by yoda1 on Aug 21, 2006 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do people ...
Let Zack, his doctor and the front office consult with each other and decide. They know better than any of us do.
by Flynn Blake on Aug 21, 2006 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Logic
by yoda1 on Aug 21, 2006 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
by Flynn Blake on Aug 22, 2006 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Wood
by nothingfalls on Aug 21, 2006 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Corpus a "former Pirate" convention?
by calig23 on Aug 21, 2006 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't need mid-90s heat...
...if he only had a standard fastball/breaking ball/change combo then I would be more concerned about the high 80s FB...but, the fact is that he has a ton of pitches and good control...and the separations between his pitches are excellent...he really pitches between 66-94 mph...that kind of wide separation is very unsual...to me a comparable pitcher profile is Mike Mussina who never threw the hardest but had a ton of pitches, had good pitch selections, disguised things well, very good velocity separation, and excellent command...
by basemonkey on Aug 22, 2006 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
velocity
by CrimsonLiederhosen on Aug 22, 2006 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Moose had more heat at the same age...true.
...true. I was making a point of comparing Greinke to Moose because Moose has always been a thinking man's pitcher who relied on a bunch of things besides velocity...Greinke strikes me to be more of that mold than a big bravado heater guy.
by basemonkey on Aug 23, 2006 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs










