Moyer traded

by nwbb on Aug 20, 2006 1:06 PM EDT

Jamie Moyer traded to the the Phillies for Andrew Barb and Andrew Baldwin, plus cash. Baldwin's a 23 year old pitching in A ball , Barb's 21, also in A ball, but a reliever. I understand trading Moyer, as the Mariner's season is long over and he is a free agent at the end of the year. But, I don't know much about either of these guys. Are they anything other than marginal prospects?

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Baldwin and Bard

Baldwin is a strike thrower drafted in the 5th round from Oregon State. He got hit hard at low levels in his first 2 years of pro ball, and wasnt ever that ggreat in college, and his merely adequate in the FSL this year. Doesn't walk folks but is 23, in a-ball and doesn't look like he has the stuff to take on real hitters or be much more than a fringe MLer, if that.

I dont know what Barbs stuff is like but his K-rate is good and his hit and homer (0) rates are great. Hes racked up Ks in previous years too. On the downside is a career long reliever (which raises questions) and a-ball releivers in general are iffy and hes been moved very slowly despite being successful. He also walks a few too many (28 and 5 HBP in 60 innings), not a scary amount but just higher than ideal

Decent haul for Moyer

by nms on Aug 20, 2006 2:12 PM EDT reply actions

barb being moved slowly

is not his fault, but can be attributed to the organization's philosophy when dealing with monor leaguers. throughout the ed wade era, prospects were dealt with using kid gloves. chase utley spent 3 seasons at AAA. plus another 2 seasons at the major league level until becoming the starting second baseman.

ryan howard hit 48 homeruns in 2004 between AA, AAA, and the majors. what happened in 2005? he started the year in AAA, got a 10 game trial in may in which he hit below the mendoza line, following which he was sent down. he was finally called up in june after jim thome was put on the disabled list, and then went on to win rookie of the year.

you cannot hold this against barb. he is a solid prospect, and should probobly be major league ready next year if started in AA.

by overlord on Aug 20, 2006 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Moyer

Moyer will replace the struggling Scott Mathieson in the rotation. I guess this a good trade for the Phillies. This may help this year and Moyer is back with Gillick.

by baseball006 on Aug 20, 2006 3:10 PM EDT reply actions

Moyer to the phillies?

why do they need him?

Go Jays!!!!

by achengy on Aug 20, 2006 3:29 PM EDT reply actions

wild card

they've won more games than they meant to the last 3 weeks, so now they have to pretend they're in serious contention. which, actually, i guess they are, due to the general mediocrity of the NL. they came into today 2.5 games back of the reds.