Reds Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects
Elizardo Ramirez
Top 20 PRE-SEASON Reds Prospects in Review
This is the PRE-SEASON list. That means it was generated BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED and that the grades were PRE-SEASON. Anyone complaining about the grades based on 2006 performance will be smacked up the side of the head with a Gookie Dawkins autographed bat.
1) Homer Bailey, RHP, Grade B+
Is 4-0, 0.75 in four starts since being promoted to Double-A Chattanooga. On a real roll right now. Combination of plus stuff and improved command makes him a dominator.
2) Travis Wood, LHP, Grade B
6-2, 4.14 in 18 starts for Class A Dayton, 88/37 K/BB in 87 innings, 68 hits allowed. Holding his own, good K/IP mark.
3) Jay Bruce, OF, Grade B
Hitting .315/.383/.563 in 90 games for Dayton, with 36 doubles and 13 homers and 14 steals. Breakout campaign establishing him as one of the best outfield prospects in the game.
4) B.J. Szymanski, OF, B-
Hitting .238/.315/.428 in 86 games for Dayton, 18 steals and 13 homers. Power and speed, but horrible contact problems as shown by 123 strikeouts.
5) Phil Dumatrait, LHP, B-
Combined 6-7, 3.99 in 17 starts combined between Double-A Chattanooga and Triple-A Louisville. 68/32 K/BB in 90 innings isn't that good. Needs more time in the minors.
6) Chris Denorfia, OF, C+
Hitting .347/.409/.454 with 14 steals for Louisville. Replacing the traded Austin Kearns in the Reds outfield. 7-for-22 (.318) so far.
7) Tyler Pelland, LHP, C+
5-3, 3.46 ERA in 19 starts for Chattanooga, 72/58 K/BB in 96 innings, 100 hits allowed. Good ERA but his components aren't that hot. Note too-high walk rate. Still an interesting pitcher.
8) Joey Votto, 1B, C+
Hitting .324/.401/.582 for Chattanooga, much better than last year. Has even stolen 15 bases. Overall numbers have revived his prospect status. Move him well up the list.
9) Justin Germano, RHP, C+
3.93 ERA in 17 starts for Louisville, 64/21 K/BB in 110 innings. Classic finesse strike thrower.
10) Zach Ward, RHP, C+
7-0, 2.45 in 16 starts for Dayton, 91/29 K/BB in 103 innings, just 67 hits and 2 homers allowed. Looks good!
11) Sam Lecure, RHP, C+
3.56 ERA, 81/27 K/BB in 91 innings for Class A Sarasota. Solid all-around performance but not spectacular.
12) Bobby Basham, RHP, C+
Traded to San Diego, on the DL at Double-A Mobile.
13) Adam Rosales, SS, C+
Combined .240/.327/.404 in 59 games between Dayton and Sarasota. Nothing to get really excited about there.
14) Jeff Stevens, RHP, C+
Traded to the Indians system. Combined 4.96 ERA and 62/26 K/BB between Dayton and Lake County. Decent strikeout rate but not much else.
15) William Bergolla, 2B, C
Hitting .254/.285/.333 in 74 games for Louisville. Performance is inadequate right now to deserve a full shot in the majors.
16) Travis Chick, RHP, C
Traded to Seattle. 5-5, 4.37 in 18 starts combined between Chattanooga and Double-A San Antonio. A fair prospect, nothing more.
17) Elizardo Ramirez, RHP, C
3-6, 4.16 in 14 starts for the Reds, 55/19 K/BB in 84 innings. This is in line with expectation.
18) Rafael Gonzalez, RHP, C
Just activated from extended spring, has pitched 15 innings for Billings in the Pioneer League, allowing 12 hits and six runs. Sample too small to mean much.
19) James Avery, RHP, C
5-6, 5.31 in 18 starts for Sarasota, 57/34 K/BB in 88 innings, 95 hits and 11 homers allowed. Components are not impressive and his status has slipped.
20) Miguel Perez, C, C
Hitting .251/.300/.319 in 77 games for Chattanooga. Not much pop, low OBP, won't hit enough to be a regular without dramatic improvement.
Comment:
Bailey and Bruce are an outstanding 1-2 prospect combination. Votto's resurgence is a good thing to see, and I still like Travis Wood. Otherwise the system seems to lack some depth, with several of the sleeper prospects not panning out this year.
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Gookie Dawkins bat is a poor choice...
by UCFKnights on Jul 17, 2006 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Travis Wood
Power pitcher with a fair number of walks and a lot of flyballs? I can't think of a good comp off the top of my head, but I do know that it sounds like the profile of a guy I'd want nowhere near GAB.
by mrkupe on Jul 17, 2006 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwin Encarnacion
How do you project Encarnacion in a couple of years? Do you see him developing more power?
by jeffersonian27 on Jul 17, 2006 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zach Ward and Miguel Perez
Miguel Perez has been swinging a hot bat lately, and I really hope he can keep it up.
by TheBlues on Jul 17, 2006 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Cueto
by joerote on Jul 17, 2006 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question about rankings
by MontrealMets on Jul 17, 2006 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
So now I'm just backing you up.
by jeromechef on Jul 17, 2006 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PRE-SEASON
I hereby whack you with a Gookie Dawkins bat.
by John Sickels on Jul 17, 2006 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pre-season
by MontrealMets on Jul 17, 2006 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
I plead sickness. I wrote this post while running a fever of 102 degrees. Been sick as a dog the last couple of days.
by John Sickels on Jul 17, 2006 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
by MontrealMets on Jul 18, 2006 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no prob
I feel better today. The fever is gone. I still have muscle aches and am very tired, but I can concentrate much better compared to Sunday or Monday.
by John Sickels on Jul 18, 2006 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C pitching prospects
by gogotabata on Jul 17, 2006 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, you guys
by Flynn Blake on Jul 17, 2006 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.04 ERA at home
by elephunkadelic on Jul 17, 2006 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
by yanksfan6129 on Jul 17, 2006 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joey Votto
by WayneTheMan on Jul 17, 2006 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think votto's in the top 3
by wily mo on Jul 17, 2006 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
by Brickhaus on Jul 17, 2006 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look again
Jay Bruce
Joey Votto
Travis Wood
Johnny Cueto
Zach Ward
Chris Denorfia
Elizardo Ramirez
Yeah...aside from the top 3 it sucks...
Wait a second isnt Ramirez pitching quite well in the Majors as a 23 year old? Wasnt Denorfia leading the International League in hitting before he got called up? Zach Ward has a 2.45 ERA for Dayton and a 3.31-1 GB-FB ratio. Man, really horrible.
by dougdirt on Jul 18, 2006 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denorfia
That said, someone who is 26 years old doesn't belong anywhere near a "prospect" list.
by sidnancy on Jul 18, 2006 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2004 Redux?
by jmcclain19 on Jul 18, 2006 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Others Too
by WayneTheMan on Jul 17, 2006 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ward
Add in Drew Stubbs, Sean Watson, and some of the other 2006 picks - and guys who haven't even made it over to the states yet like Wirfin Obispo who's being hyped - the system isn't as bad as it looks.
Its still not great by any means, it thins out fairly quick.. but its actually much improved.
by cincyinco on Jul 18, 2006 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by dryice on Jul 18, 2006 7:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wha????
by Furious George on Jul 18, 2006 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Krivsky IQ test
1)YEA BAW
2)duh...ok
3)WHAT THA -
The best way to acquire a good middle reliever in order to help a contending team is to:
1)Cut the guts out of the rest of the roster.
2)trade moderate level prospects
3)Do #2, but be open to the fact that having a beer sloggin, hot dog eatin contest during a game and pickin someone in the stands 7 rows, 5 seats down from the winner has worked for some teams (Atlanta -Ray) since the whole position is so frickin erratic and pot-luck driven.
If you just gotta do something like busting your head against the wall, the what you SHOULD do is:
1)Take a good running start, and just pile-drive right into it.
2)Sort of tap the wall with your head and say to yourself "dern, that smarts"
3)are you kidding? noone HAS to bust their head against a wall
Scores: 3 -Krivsky's score (dummer than a pile of bricks)
4-7 normal
8-9 can run any team BUT the Reds (even the Royals)
by dryice on Jul 18, 2006 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
let me just clear my throat, eh hum:
Bronson Arroyo
Dave Ross
Brandon Phillips
even if the recent trade turns out 3 times worse than it looked, the good outweighs the bad, by a long shot
by TheBlues on Jul 19, 2006 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it does, but...
Ross- 4.0 WARP3
Phillips 3.6 WARP3
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11.4 WARP3
Kearns- 6.9 WARP3
Lopez- 4.0 WAPR3
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10.9 WARP3
it's close. and obviously i didn't include Majewski, Bray, or Arroyo here, I'm just illustrating a point.
by limozeen on Jul 19, 2006 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More throat clearing
Arroyo: All of his component stats are similar to last year. Maybe a little lucky?
Ross: Far and away the most he's ever played; he may or may not be this good.
Phillips: He's not as good as he was in April or June. Look at his May stats, and accept that as his true talent level.
Krivsky gave up nothing for Hatteberg, Ross, and Phillips - like Mays, McCracken, and Womack, he was just throwing stuff at the wall to see what would stick. If Arroyo stays this good, I'll give him credit, but I think Arroyo may just be (as I said) lucky this year.
by sidnancy on Jul 19, 2006 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whither Thomas Pauly?
by Chief on Jul 26, 2006 3:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs













