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pelfrey shelled

ick, dude got lit up.  4 innings he gave up 13 hits and 5 runs.  maybe lit up is an exaggeration, but compared to what he's done so far this year...

In 5 starts between A+(4) and AA(1), he's given up 20 hits in 27.2 innings and only 4 ER's!!  He practically doubled his previous numbers in ONLY 4 INNINGS!  The good news is he only walked 1.

All this to say, he's probably still good, he's just not exactly ready for Shea.  It will be nice to see what happens next game.

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oh no
He proved that he was human...

by akk99 on May 5, 2006 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First starts?
Give the kid a break. It's always difficult when you first move up.

by yoda1 on May 5, 2006 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes
Phillip Hughes made his first start for AA Trenton last night after moving up from high A.  

His line:

6 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO

by Scott Proctor Fan Club on May 5, 2006 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was listening to the game...
Seemed to me that most of the hits were ground balls, and the Akron team just had an excellent approach to Pelfrey. When you get 13 hits and 11 of them are singles I think it's safe to say that contact was the main priority...

It's still a line that he hasn't he had to look at in a long time, and on the proffesional level for the first time. It will be interesting to see how he responds the next time out. I say promote they should Gary Carter every time you push Pelfrey up a level, but unfortunately that's not going to happen. Not that Juan Samuel isn't a pitching guru or anything...

by MetfanBren on May 5, 2006 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Akron also has a pretty good prospect-laden
lineup as well.

Hello phiago,

I wouldn't fret too much about Pelfrey's bad outing; he was facing a pretty good prospect-laden club with the Indians' AA Akron Aeros ballclub.

Most would consider Brad Snyder and Kevin Kouzmanoff to be at least solid regulars if not more.  People have also mentioned Pat Osborn, Jonathan Van Every, and Eider Torres as being possible contributors to a big-league club as well.  

Joe Inglett is also considered to be a possible contributor as well and he has a good amount of AAA experience as well; the only reason he's back at AA is to get more repetitions at SS to judge his value as a super-utility player (the Indians have veteran Jose Flores as AAA Buffalo's starting shortstop, so Inglett was blocked from getting regular work at SS at AAA Buffalo.  

The only way he would get the needed repetitions was to head back to AA Akron.  Keep in mind that Inglett has hit over .300 at AAA as well, so he may be the most experienced hitter Pelfrey has faced in his young professional career.  Plus, Pelfrey did retire him 1 out of 3 times, so that's not too bad for a highly-regarded pitching prospect with limited professional experience.)

Plus, those prospects I mentioned above also have a good amount of AA experience, as all of them seen a fair number of games at Akron last year, so Pelfrey struggling against more advanced hitters than he has seen is not that unusual.  

Plus, no offense to Mets fans, but I don't think most people consider Mike Pelfrey to be the next Mark Prior; he's good, but not as good as Prior, so I think a period of adjustment for Pelfrey is not unusual and should not be unexpected.

Give Pelfrey some time - if he's as good as projected, he'll probably figure out AA soon enough.  Plus, except for Bannister's injury, the Mets have no room in the rotation for Pelfrey at this point anyway.  The Mets can afford to be patient with him.

Just my 2 cents. :-)

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on May 5, 2006 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!
Thanks for the info on the Akron team. I know Binghamton is pretty bad right now, and they will be for the full season most likely. There's a huge talent gap in the Met system, at least the little that they have. It drops from Milledge/Pelfrey at AAA/AA, to Fernando Martinez (17) and maybe Neise at Low A....

I wouldn't expect Pelfrey to be another Prior, but he's going to need some thick skin to handle the Met system. Bad defense and no offense is not helpful, especially to a ground ball pitcher...

by MetfanBren on May 5, 2006 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey!
Could you do the Mets and us fans a favor? Please don't ever say that the rotation is healthy and stable again! Someone's unleashed some nasty Murphy's law the last week or so...

I'm just kidding of course, but the timing is a little spooky. Pelfrey goes again today, and even though I don't see him up in Queens until at least July/August no matter how well he does, his next few starts will be something to keep a close eye on.  Soler has also been promoted to AA and had a great first outing, so keep an eye on him as well. If I had more time I'd get up to Binghamton to see both myself..

by MetfanBren on May 9, 2006 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're Welcome! :-)
Hello MetfanBren,

You're welcome!  I check out the Akron team often, for obvious reasons. :-)

No bragging intended, the Indians' farm system is a bit deeper than the Mets, so some of Pelfrey's troubles in his last start was due to some quality young talent at the AA level, so I wouldn't worry too much about Pelfrey.  It's just going to take him some time to make the necessary adjustments, which virtually all young pitchers have to make when they reach the next level, and especially at AA.

I think Pelfrey's mental toughness will also be tested by what you say about the Mets' system - no offense and bad defense.  If Pelfrey is as good as advertised, he'll probably be mentally tough enough to handle a weak offense and bad defense.  He just has to concentrate on what he is doing on the mound.

Like I said in my earlier post, there were some positive signs from Pelfrey's outing against the Aeros - he did get Inglett once, and Inglett has extensive AAA experience, let alone AA experience.  Plus, he struck out Torres, Van Every, and Larkin (another possible utility guy at the ML level) once each, so Pelfrey had his moments against more advanced competition.  Just give him some time to get acclimated to AA (and eventually, AAA.)

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on May 6, 2006 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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