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2000 First Round Part Two

16) Billy Traber, LHP, New York Mets (Loyola Marymount)
     Polished, college-trained finesse lefty was expected to move rapidly. He hurt his elbow before signing his contract, however, reducing his bonus from over $1.6 million to just $400,000. Has been continually nagged by health problems, though he had an OK year for the Indians in 2003.

17) Ben Diggins, RHP, Los Angeles Dodgers (University of Arizona)
     Hulking monster on the mound with a 96-98 MPH fastball but shaky command and a mixed track record. He continued to have command problems as a pro, lost his fastball, and eventually hurt his shoulder. Lost four out of five starts for the Brewers in 2002.

18) Miguel Negron, OF, Toronto Blue Jays (high school, Caguas, PR)
     Toolsy Puerto Rican outfielder was selected for admittedly budgetary reasons: most teams saw him as a third round pick. His minor league track record is undistinguished. If he makes the majors at all, it will be as a reserve.

19) Sean Burnett, LHP, Pittsburgh Pirates (high school, Wellington, FL)
      Polished high school lefty with a mediocre fastball but good action on his pitches, plus an advanced sense of pitching. Did well in the minors, came to the Show and went 5-5 in 13 starts in 2004 before hurting his arm. Still trying to come back from that.

20) Chris Bootcheck, RHP, Anaheim Angels (Auburn University)
      Low 90s fastball, cutter, curve, changeup. . .four solid pitches. For some reason, in college the results never quite seemed to match with his talent, and this trend continued in the pros. Appears to have topped out in Triple-A.

21) Boof Bonser, RHP, San Francisco Giants (high school, St. Petersburg, FL)
     Somewhat inconsistent early in the minors, but has proven durable and effective overall. Trade to the Twins in the Pierzynski/Liriano deal, he is now getting a chance in the rotation. He doesn't throw as hard as he did in high school, but his breaking stuff is better and he is more of a pitcher now, not just a thrower. Could still have a very good career.

22) Phil Dumatrait, LHP, Boston Red Sox (Bakersfield Junior College)
      Lefty with a lower 90s fastball and an excellent curve, his stock was hurt a bit by concerns about the durability of his smallish frame. Indeed, injuries have proven to be a problem for him, and he fell off the prospect charts quickly. Currently pitching well for Double-A Chattanooga in the Reds system, he could still contribute in some role.

23) David Espinosa, SS, Cincinnati Reds (high school, Miami, FL)
      Some teams thought he was the best high school hitter in the draft, but his bonus demands and Scott Boras connections scared most clubs away. The Reds gave him a major league contract to sign. He has not played as well as expected, struggling defensively and putting up very erratic offensive numbers. Now an outfielder in the Tigers system, with an outside shot at a bench role someday.

24) Blake Williams, RHP, St. Louis Cardinals (Southwest Texas State University)
      Got into the first round by boosting his fastball into the mid-90s to go with his fine curve. The velocity didn't last; injuries sapped his heater back into the upper 80s, and his command wasn't good enough to compensate. Now in independent ball.

25) Scott Heard, C, Texas Rangers (high school, San Diego, CA)
     An excellent defensive catcher, Heard got into the first round because of his glove, but there were serious questions about his bat and durability. He hit .351 in rookie ball, but fell apart after that. Even his defense proved disappointing. Out of baseball.

26) Corey Smith, SS, Cleveland Indians (high school, Piscataway, NJ)
     Compared to Gary Sheffield due to his bat speed and power potential, Smith has been unable to tap his ability, hampered by poor strike zone judgment, problems finding a consistent swing, and defensive inconsistency at third base. He is having a fine season so far in 2006 however, and at age 24 he still has time to put things together and contribute.

27) Robert Stiehl, RHP, Houston Astros (El Camino Junior College)
      Stiehl had a mid-90s fastball and a devastating curveball. He was brilliant in his pro debut, but hurt his shoulder in 2001 and hasn't been the same. He lost 3-5 MPH off his fastball, and his command isn't good enough to compensate. Still trying to salvage a career.

28) David Parrish, C, New York Yankees (University of Michigan)
      Almost as big a stretch as Miguel Negron in the first round. Most teams saw Parrish as a second round pick at best. Parrish had reasonable defensive skills, and the Yankees thought he could hit like his father Lance did. It didn't happen, and Parrish quickly devolved into an organizational roster-filler.

29) Adam Wainwright, RHP, Atlanta Braves (high school, St. Simons, GA)
      Tall, lanky Wainwright fit into Atlanta's pitching development system perfectly, and quickly became a top prospect due to sharp command of his low 90s fastball and decent curve. Traded to the Cardinals, he is having a fine season in relief so far in 2006, but could still end up as a starter eventually. Should have a solid career either way.

30) Scott Thorman, 3B, Atlanta Braves (high school, Cambridge, ON)
      Thorman had a promising power bat but shaky defensive skills at third base. He had injury problems, moved to first base, but is currently having a good campaign for Triple-A Richmond. He can still be a contributor.

So, of the 30 players in the first round, we have one guy (Chase Utley) who looks like a star. We have a young pitcher (Adam Wainwright) having a good rookie season so far in 2006. We have Boof Bonser, who is still a fine prospect. We have a few others who still have a chance to have careers at least in a contributing role (Baldelli, Thorman, Smith) and a few others with outside shots for minor roles. We have a very large number of pitching injury casualties, both high school and college. Also note how the players with the worst combinations of hubris and greed did not pan out very well.

Here's hoping that 2006 is better than it looks on the surface.

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Baldelli
Is in no way deserving of being grouped with those 2.
Hes more like Utley than Smith or Thorman

by nms on May 20, 2006 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rocco
he's certainly had a better career than Smith or Thorman, but Baldelli's missed more than a full season and may miss two full seasons due to injuries that have affected two of his best tools, his speed and his arm.  And it's not as if he was a star or anything when he was healthy, even if he was very young.  Utley on the other hand is probably the best 2B in the game.  Considering the questions about Baldelli right now, I agree with John's assesment.

by sanchez101 on May 20, 2006 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
I certainly wasnt saying Baldellis been as a good a player as Utley but he was far far above Smith or Thorman.

Baldelli was an average or above average CF at ages 21 and 22...compare that to what Utley was doing at 21.
Sure he "wasn't a star" but he was on that track and is still a helluva player and a valuable commodity.  He missed last year butshould be back soon and his injuries dont look to be major long term red flags.
Hes still only 24

And his arm was never one of his best tools...it was  always considered average at best

by nms on May 20, 2006 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?
a torn ACL that kept him from baseball for a year is a huge red flag for a player that relies so heavily on his speed.  TB is talking about moving him to RF, where is bat becomes suspect, assuming he hits like he did pre-injury.

by sanchez101 on May 20, 2006 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Contract
Does anyone know what possessed the D'Rays to give Baldelli that big longterm contract?

by DrBGiantsfan on May 20, 2006 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummm....
....cuz they're the Devil Rays?  The team with the worst front office over the past XX years.

by sabernar on May 20, 2006 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Contract
They wanted to get him locked up and took a risk.  Without the injury, his market value certainly would have been higher than what he got, and if he continued on his old pace, it would have looked like a steal.  On the other hand, they also realized that he might never come back to his old self.  Still, the contract wasn't that big.  It was touted as a 6-year, $23M contract, but only $10M and four years are guaranteed ($2M was contingent upon him getting 500 ABs this year and next, which won't happen, and the $13M are option years at the end of the contract with a $2M buyout), so it looks a lot more like a football contract than a baseball contract.  If he puts up one season where he does what the Rays thought he would become, the contract pays for itself, so I don't actually think it's a bad contract, or a monster contract at that (not to mention that he's a big fan favorite, so having him out on the field might help put butts in seats from a business perspective).
"If there wasn't nine guys out in the field, I'd have a hit every time except when I strike out." - Delmon Young

by Brickhaus on May 20, 2006 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops
I though it was TJ on his arm that was the big surgery and that his leg injuries were just hammys

by nms on May 21, 2006 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sort of
He tore his ACL playing football with his brother, and then while on rehab assignment, blew his elbow.   In spring training, it was hamstring injuries, and that's what he's been recovering from since.  Not quite accurate to say he missed a full season from any of those injuries though - it's definately three distinct injuries to different parts of his body, but that doesn't bode too well for his staying healthy in the future, even if he does recover fully.  Before the latest injury though, his speed hadn't suffered, as he was timed with the same home to first speed as he was before the injuries.  Don't know about his arm though.  My biggest hope is that the threat of losing his speed has made him work on his batting eye and pitch selection while he's been injured, since you don't really need to be playing to improve those significantly.   There's also talk about moving him to first (which makes sense from an organizational perspective if his bat improves enough), but I agree that his bat wouldn't carry him there at this point, although it would significantly reduce his chances of reaggrevating the knee or elbow injuries.  Lots of question marks, but at worst he should still be a major league backup.
"If there wasn't nine guys out in the field, I'd have a hit every time except when I strike out." - Delmon Young

by Brickhaus on May 21, 2006 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williams
I believe Blake Williams is pitching in the independent Northern League.

by BenB on May 20, 2006 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rest Of The Draft?
How did the rest of the 2000 draft turn out?  Was it a terrible draft all the way down or were there some sleepers farther down the list?

It seems like this year's draft may be fairly deep, especially in pitching.  I was reading on another site that there are as many as 30-50 high school lhp's worth drafting with many being good enough to be taken in the first 5 rounds.  Maybe this is a year where someone drafted in the 5'th round has a much chance of being a good player as in the first round.

by DrBGiantsfan on May 20, 2006 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

other guys from the '00 draft
Grady Sizemore was taken in the third.  Dontrelle Willis and Brandon Webb in the eighth.  Rich Harden in the 17th.  Jason Bay in the 22nd.

The Rockies had a pretty good draft, getting Garrett Atkins, Clint Barmes and Brad Hawpe.  Their 30th round pick, apparently was Mike Vick(yes, that Mike Vick).

by Ian Miller on May 20, 2006 5:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good review of a terrible first round
I think this years draft is the worst one since that one...

I would like to see similar reviews like this of other drafts.  It would be a pretty good feature.

by VtTigers on May 20, 2006 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I second the motion!
I think this is a great feature.  Please do some more!

by sabernar on May 20, 2006 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Heard
Hard to believe that he was considered the #1 pick at one point.

by Sulla on May 20, 2006 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I met Scott Heard in 01....
...he was playing for low-A Savannah, and he was a really nice guy, chatting/signing for all the fans and kids...when I asked him if he was Scott Heard, he said: "Yeah, I'm Scot Heard minus an arm"...he had a broken arm at the time, which is why he wasn't playing...I felt sorry for him...he seemed very genuiinely passionate about the game, and it looked like he hated sitting in the dugout with a huge cast on his arm...

by daveh33 on May 22, 2006 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suggestion
John, it would be really interesting to see how these guys graded out in your first writeups of them.  Did this seem to be a weak class to you, or did things just fall apart down the road?

by limozeen on May 20, 2006 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braves 2000
This is a good way to get ready for the 2006 Draft.

Yet, it is important to go beyond the first round and see how a minor league system exploits and develops the other 10-40 players that they draft and sign.

Take the example of the Braves: they did have a good draft in 2000.  Not only did they get Wainwright and Thorman, but it got better:

Kelly Johnson (1s), Blaine Boyer (3)Trey Hodges (17) Chuck Thomas (19) and Adam LaRoche (29) have all had impact on the Braves.

Bubba Nelson (2) Zach Miner  (4) Matthew Merricks (6) never appeared in Atlanta, but were useful for trades.

In addition to Thorman, who has yet to play in the Majors, Bryan Digby (2) Chris Waters (5) and Matthew Wright (21) remain in the Braves system.  Waters has been slowed by injuries and Wright has the best chance to make a positive contribution in Atlanta.

The Braves have similar picks in 2006 and even if they do not draft a future All Star if they can be as effective in 2006 as they were in 2000 the orgranization will continue to thrive.

by hisslk on May 20, 2006 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Complete Draft
Does anyone know where you can find a complete listing of the 2000 or other old drafts?

by DrBGiantsfan on May 20, 2006 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beane
Interesting that the only years where the Oakland Athletics have not or will not have a 1st round pick since the Beane era were the 2000 and 2006 drafts. Coincidence that those picks were let go via FA compensation? I think not.

by onestepahead on May 20, 2006 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Magnante
Didn't the A's lose their pick in 2000 as compensation for signing Mike Magnante, and didn't Beane admit that it was a mistake?  (They didn't realize he was a Type-A or something?)

by costanza on May 21, 2006 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brad Cresse
Ah, youth! Boy, was I high on Brad Cresse. He had that great performance in the CWS in 2000. Thought for sure he projected as a 20 HR guy. Obviously not the case, although he is just two shy of 50 career minor-league homers. Not exactly Crash Davis-esque, but at least he is still hangin around.

by StickRat on May 20, 2006 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Harden
How in the world did he fall to the 17th? Did he not have sick stuff in high school? He has some of the filthiest stuff I've ever seen in a pitch, it's hard to imagine him not being high on draft boards. I wasn't into the draft at that time, anyone got any insight on this?
http://www.treasuretrooper.com/32645

by brandnew on May 22, 2006 1:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

draft and follow
He was drafted out of HS (1999) by the Mariners (where he was more of an OF) and went to Cent Ariz JUCO.  He played there and then they didnt sign him before the next draft (2000) so he went back in it.  He went in the 17th to the As, who had him go back to juco ball so they could evaluate him before the next years draft (2001).  He broke out and was doing well and got signed after his JUCO year before the 2001 draft.

In other words he wasnt a 17th rounder (i assume he would have been a fairly high pick i nthe 2001 draft) on talent but it was still a nice pick and great piece of scouting

by nms on May 22, 2006 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perspective
Jason Kubel and JD Durbin were both drafted by the Twins in 2000. Kubel and Durbin are still at AAA. Bonser, of course, just got his first major league start.

Kubel is still a projected star, Bonser looks like he will be a major league starter and Durbin is still a prospect with great potential, albeit a longshot to reach it. That tells you how long it takes to really evaluate the results of a draft. It will be at least a couple years before you know how those guys finally panned out.

I suspect you could look back at the 1998 draft at this point and still find some questions not fully answered. For instance, is Michael Cuddyer as good a hitter as he appears to be this year or did he just get off to a hot start.

by TT on May 22, 2006 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miguel Negron
Negron was just released.
Mike Emeigh http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/minor_key/

by MikeE on May 24, 2006 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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