MOD: Mets

Mets could use more arms and Scherzer seems to be a guy that could fall

He won't fall if you keep bringing up his name!!!

are we going to discuss draft strategy (ie names) here or over on amazin avenue?

so whats our target going to be here? pitching? IF depth? more outfielders?

i personally think that you can never go wrong with more pitching and the mets are pretty bereft of impact pitching right now...i can think of humber, pelfrey, soler, henry owens, jon niese, royce ring & deolis guerra

unfortunately a lot of the pitching talent is going to go off the board early with the lack of positional depth in the draft...however, a lot of the top guys are righties so im thinking maybe one of the top lefties drops? someone like wade leblanc (bama), nathan culp (mizzou), dave huff (az st) or tony watson (huskers)...probably in that order IMO...thats if any of them drop of course...the last 3 actually might since they also double as relievers...

while i still think starting pitching should be the target, its never a bad idea to take a first round talent at any position who drops too far either due to injuries, a slow start or like someone mentioned earlier signability issues

i know a lot of people think highly of AZ closer mark melancon since he could breeze through the minors a la chad cordero or craig hansen...and his stock is dropping due to a recent ligament sprain so he may drop to us

then there are a few hitters, scott sizemore, danny payne & mark hamilton...hamilton has been discussed as a sleeper with first round talent who has displayed a good eye and some really good pop and may drop into the second round...sizemore was an early season favorite who hasn't put up great numbers this year...and payne is georgia tech's leadoff hitter who showed this season that he can bat for average and power as well but just went down with an injury for 4-6 weeks...all of these guys could be good finds for the mets with either our 1st or maybe our 2nd or 3rd picks

kentucky 2b john shelby is another guy who is supposedly a 1st-2nd round talent, hes very athletic and can hit for good power for an infielder but is scaring teams away due to his shaky plate discipline so far this season...but IF is a weak point in the mets system so this could be another diamond in the rough for us

allright, i put together a few lists by position and then one complete draft list...i wish there were a better way to post these but if there is i don't know it so sorry if your scroll wheel explodes by the end of all these lists:

PITCHERS

^left-handed pitcher

prep pitchers are italicized

1  - andrew miller^
2  - tim lincecum
3  - brad lincoln
4  - clayton kershaw^
5  - brad lincoln
6  - max scherzer
7  - kyle drabek
8  - colten willems
9  - luke hochevar
10 - jeremy jeffress
11 - greg reynolds
12 - josh butler
13 - daniel bard
14 - joba chamberlain
15 - brett sinkbeil
16 - ian kennedy
17 - kasey kiker
18 - brooks brown
19 - brett anderson
20 - chris tillman
21 - jordan walden
22 - mark melancon (closer)
23 - jared hughes
24 - eddie degerman
25 - jeff samardzija
26 - drew carpenter
27 - dellin betances
28 - david huff^
29 - kyle mcculloch
30 - wade leblanc^
31 - justin masterson
32 - nathan culp^
33 - harold mozingo
34 - chad lee
35 - matt latos
36 - jeff manship
37 - steven wright
38 - dallas buck
39 - blair erickson (closer)
40 - chris perez (closer)
41 - craig baker
42 - josh johnson
43 - adam ottavino
44 - cory rasmus
45 - bryan morgado^

prep players are italicized

INFIELDERS

1  - evan longoria 3b
2  - chris marrero 3b
3  - bill rowell 3b
4  - emmanuel burris 2b
5  - chris parmalee 1b
6  - lars anderson 1b
7  - matt laporta 1b
8  - mark hamilton 1b
9  - john shelby 2b
10 - matt antonelli 3b
11 - wes hodges 3b
11 - stephen king 3b-ss
11 - aaron bates 1b
13 - scott sizemore 2b
14 - ryan jackson 2b-ss
15 - adrian cardenas ss
16 - jason donald 2b
17 - marcus lemon ss
18 - adam davis 2b

OUTFIELDERS

1  - drew stubbs
2  - travis snider
3  - brennan boesch
4  - jason place
5  - cedric hunter
6  - jon jay
7  - shane robinson
8  - kyler burke
9  - jake dempsey
10 - chris errecart
11 - derrick robinson
12 - luke gorsett
13 - cody johnson
14 - david christensen
15 - aaron miller
16 - colin curtis
17 - quinn stewart

CATCHERS

1  - chad tracy
2  - hank conger
3  - brian jerol0man
4  - max sapp
5  - torre langley
6  - jordan newton

sorry again for the length...blame the mets for having such a crappy pick...

DISCLAIMER  this is not a mock draft list nor is it a 'top 87 draftable players' list...this is a 'top 87 players for the mets' list...so basically the list represents a ranking of each player that would best satisfy the mets needs assuming that every player above him has been taken...and obviously, this is all based on my own personal research and opinion, feel free to disagree

prep players are italicized

bold players are my personal favorites, based on plausability of dropping to us as well as their overall talent

1  - andrew miller lhp
2  - evan longoria 3b
3  - tim lincecum rhp
4  - brad lincoln rhp
5  - clayton kershaw lhp
6  - brad lincoln rhp
7  - drew stubbs of
8  - travis snider of
9  - max scherzer rhp
10 - chris marrero 3b
11 - bill rowell 3b
12 - kyle drabek rhp
13 - colten willems rhp
14 - emmanuel burris 2b
15 - luke hochevar rhp
16 - jeremy jeffress rhp
17 - greg reynolds rhp
18 - josh butler rhp
19 - daniel bard rhp
20 - joba chamberlain rhp
21 - chris parmalee 1b
22 - lars anderson 1b
23 - matt laporta 1b
24 - brett sinkbeil rhp
25 - ian kennedy rhp
26 - chad tracy c
27 - kasey kiker rhp
28 - brooks brown rhp
29 - brett anderson rhp
30 - chris tillman rhp
31 - mark hamilton 1b
32 - jordan walden rhp
33 - john shelby 2b
34 - matt antonelli 3b
35 - hank conger c
36 - brennan boesch of
37 - mark melancon rhp (closer)
38 - jason place of
39 - cedric hunter of
40 - jared hughes rhp
41 - eddie degerman rhp
42 - jeff samardzija rhp
43 - drew carpenter rhp
44 - dellin betances rhp
45 - david huff lhp
46 - kyle mcculloch rhp
47 - wade leblanc lhp
48 - wes hodges 3b
49 - stephen king 3b-ss
50 - brian jerol0man c
51 - max sapp c
52 - aaron bates 1b
53 - scott sizemore 2b
54 - justin masterson rhp
55 - nathan culp lhp
56 - harold mozingo rhp
57 - chad lee rhp
58 - matt latos rhp
59 - jeff manship rhp
60 - ryan jackson 2b-ss
61 - adrian cardenas ss
62 - jason donald 2b
63 - marcus lemon ss
64 - steven wright rhp
65 - dallas buck rhp
66 - jon jay of
67 - shane robinson of
68 - kyler burke of
69 - jake dempsey of
70 - chris errecart of
71 - blair erickson rhp (closer)
72 - chris perez rhp (closer)
73 - derrick robinson of
74 - luke gorsett of
75 - craig baker rhp
76 - josh johnson rhp
77 - adam ottavino rhp
78 - cory rasmus rhp
79 - cody johnson of
80 - torre langley c
81 - david christensen of
82 - aaron miller of
83 - bryan morgado lhp
84 - jordan newton c
85 - colin curtis of
86 - quinn stewart of
87 - adam davis 2b

i forgot to add stephen king to my overall list, hes on that infielders list...i like him though

havent come across a couple of those names (petiton & thraikill) but ive heard of stoffel, just forgot to put him on there...same goes for negrych, i really liked him and completely forgot him, he'd probably be high on the infielders list...and probably right around john shelby on the overall list

so on draft day, how are we going to decide if there is some sort of clash in opinions? maybe a poll? or is it the farm directors final decision?

hawaiian-born ss milton loo who is playing now in a juco wood-bat league...reds drafted him last year as a draft and follow in the 9th and still have the rights to him but hes playing really well right now and if they don't sign him before the draft, i think he could be a very interesting later round pick...heres the report i read:

Loo was the first prep player picked out of Hawaii in 2004, and he has been the best prospect in Arizona's wood-bat junior-college conference the last two seasons. He led Yavapai to a 49-10 record and No. 2 national ranking into early May, though he wasn't the team's best player statistically.

Loo, whose native island of Molokai is so small and rural that it has no stoplights, entices scouts with five-tool potential. Though his present power remains below average, his ability to cover the plate, make consistent, hard contact and repeat his short stroke make hitting his best tool. His raw power could profile him for third base. He moved to that position at Yavapai, but scouts agree he could play short or any other infield position as a pro thanks to above-average arm strength, excellent athleticism, good range and solid infield actions. After a rough start, he became an above-average defender at third in a short time this season.

If Loo's effort and performance were more consistent, he'd rank among the top position players available. He's a plus runner and solid baserunner, but he doesn't run out ground balls as often as scouts want to see. After being bothered by a strained thumb and gimpy ankle in 2005, Loo missed time late in the 2006 season when his elbow flared up. It was diagnosed as nerve irritation and he returned to DH in the postseason. Loo's durability will factor into whether or not the Reds--who offered him a reported bonus of more than $200,000 last summer--make another enthusiastic run at Loo.

rc23...obviously, not a superlong story behind that one...

i've updated my draft lists, i won't post them again because like we said earlier, who knows who could be watching...but one thing i forgot to mention earlier, i agreed somewhat with you about samardzija, i definitely moved him down my list, but not too much...and i was wary with him to begin with also because obviously hes got a huge name before he even gets on the mound but i read a few reports stating that his numbers have suffered every year because every spring he has to split time between baseball and football spring practices...but this is the first year he got permission to skip those spring practices and coaches have seen him grow by leaps and bounds, at the very least theyve said his fastball gained a few mph...so what i see is a guy with HUGE projectability (6'5", 215lbs and arms as long as telephone poles) who is just now tapping into his true potential...i mean his numbers have been pretty good to this point but now hes bringing it to another level? very impressive IMO

obviously though, you have to remember that the reason he was held back those first 2 years (football) may still be a danger as hes the top rated WR and might drop baseball altogether following next year's NFl draft...this is the main reason he dropped on my list, its very tough to say exactly what to do but based on his talent alone, i like him a lot