Gauging the SS prospects
I think one of the weakest positions right now for top tier prospects (with the exception of 2b, and perpetually the catcher) is suprisingly the Shortstop position. Obviously we got Brandon Wood at the top of the list but it really starts to thin out, and is very top heavy. Who's next, Adam Jones? Troy Tulowitzki? Pennington? Let's assume that Joel Guzman gets moved to the OF as planned and so does Justin Upton:
Who would make up the top five?
- Brandon Wood.
- Probably Stephen Drew
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I would tend to agree with you
Adam Jones has been moved to the OF and like you said Guzman is probably headed there as well.
I actually think Upton will be given every opportunity to stick at SS, which in turn moves Drew off.
I guess you could put Cliff Pennington on there but I'm not that high on him right now.
Marcus Sanders would be there too, but I'm considering him a 2B.
by The Scout on Feb 16, 2006 5:19 PM EST 0 recs
Pedroia?
by cdamon on Feb 16, 2006 5:34 PM EST 0 recs
Better 2b
by jc3 on
Feb 16, 2006 6:16 PM EST
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Scouts
He was defensive player of the year in college as a SS.
He is probably a GG at 2B, but only an average to above average SS.
by cdamon on
Feb 16, 2006 7:19 PM EST
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Really?
As far as defensive player of the year in college, I'm not sure I can trust that as much as GG awards.
IMO, his best value is at 2b.
by jc3 on
Feb 17, 2006 10:24 AM EST
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Some comments
I do take the defensive player of the year in college as a scouting plus.
John's 2005 comment: "He plays way above his tools at SS, with great quickness and terrific fundamentals."
BA rates him as the best defensive tools in the boston org.
by cdamon on
Feb 17, 2006 10:51 AM EST
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My real question
by jc3 on
Feb 17, 2006 10:59 AM EST
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Thinking more long term
by jc3 on
Feb 17, 2006 12:03 PM EST
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two reasons
Long term, I think they see Lowrie and Pedroia as the middle infielders. I think Pedroia at SS makes more sense with the two of them than the other way around.
Even if Lowrie does not develop, it is always easier to find someone who can play 2B than someone who can play SS. The Todd Walkers and Mark Bellhorns always seem to be available.
by cdamon on
Feb 17, 2006 11:34 AM EST
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Missing the point
If I were them, I'd get a comparable ss to Lowrie's value at 2b and stick Pedroia at 2b so that his true value is maximized. If you are saying that is hard to do, well, it might be, but that would be the avenue I would follow.
by jc3 on
Feb 17, 2006 12:08 PM EST
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look past brandon wood...
- upton (if he sticks)
- wood
- drew
- tulo
- aybar
by robcast23 on Feb 16, 2006 5:38 PM EST 0 recs
Especially...
by jc3 on
Feb 16, 2006 6:51 PM EST
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That list looks good for the top 5
by ToyCannon on
Feb 16, 2006 8:30 PM EST
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How could we forget Aybar?
It just shows that with all the Upton/Wood/Drew hype, Aybar is under the radar right now.
While we are kind of talking about Andrus, where do you guys think a guy like him will fall on BA's top 100 list?
Same with Jose Tabata. Since they are young teenage sensations, I put them in the same category.
by The Scout on Feb 16, 2006 5:57 PM EST 0 recs
Tuiosasopo
He has the potential to be a great hitter at the short stop position, and the big if is if he doesn not out grow the position.
He already carries a body style fo ARod.
by jbg3004 on Feb 16, 2006 6:31 PM EST 0 recs
definitely moved
by robcast23 on
Feb 16, 2006 6:40 PM EST
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Tui
by hybrid on
Feb 16, 2006 6:41 PM EST
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Brignac
I think I'd rank Andrus ahead of Erick Aybar, but behind Tulowitzki. I think Aybar will just be a good SS with a number of average seasons thrown in.
I'd go something like this:
- Wood
- Upton/Drew
- Tulowitzki
- Andrus
- Brignac
- Aybar
- Hanley Ramirez
- Tuiasosopo
- Asdruba Cabrera
- Ronny Cedeno
- Marcus Sanders
- Chris Nelson
by ultxmxpx on
Feb 16, 2006 6:52 PM EST
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Not that I disagree with you
by Ienpw on
Feb 16, 2006 7:19 PM EST
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chin lung hu
by npurcell on Feb 16, 2006 6:44 PM EST 0 recs
I forgot about Nelson too
I sure hope he bounces back. His name should be at the top of that list if it wasn't for his injury plagued year. Hopefully, this time next year it will be.
by The Scout on Feb 16, 2006 7:16 PM EST 0 recs
Yeah
by goalieguy on
Feb 16, 2006 9:39 PM EST
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Haven't heard anything
I would say Tulo is the safer bet right now. He will probably reach the majors sooner than Nelson.
I still feel Nelson has more offensive upside.
BA says Tulo might force Nelson to 2B. If that's the case and Nelson progresses offensively like he is supposed to, he could put up some big time numbers for a second baseman.
by The Scout on
Feb 16, 2006 11:14 PM EST
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Thanks for the info
I hadnt heard about Nelson switching to 2b but that would make sense. Do you think Tulo makes it to COl this year? I know its a big jump but I dont get the feeling they "love" Barmes, and tulo seems pretty advanced
by goalieguy on
Feb 16, 2006 11:46 PM EST
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Maybe
He'll get a call up late in the year, but I don't think I would expect a midseason call up unless something crazy happens.
He seems pretty polished from what I've read though.
by The Scout on
Feb 17, 2006 12:47 AM EST
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Shortstops
2.Wood/Aybar
3.Tulowitzki
4.Hu
5.Brignac
by sanchez101 on Feb 16, 2006 7:36 PM EST 0 recs
Upton
by CrimsonLiederhosen on Feb 16, 2006 8:32 PM EST 0 recs
yo yo
- bossman juniah
- s'drew
- brand-o-wood
- tulowit'zki
- hanley
- chris nelson
- e aybar
- brignac
- plouffe
- joaquin arias
- ronny, not roger, cedeno
- asdrubal cabsdrubal
- a little less conversation a little more andrus
- cj henry
by wily mo on Feb 16, 2006 8:46 PM EST 0 recs
Justin Upton RC cards
I don't collect cards as much as I used to but I still like to grab the top prospects.
Does anybody know if Upton has any Rookie cards out yet? If not, when will they come out.
by The Scout on Feb 17, 2006 12:51 AM EST 0 recs
he will have a very limited autograph card....
by daveh33 on
Feb 17, 2006 4:42 PM EST
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I'm surprised
I'd go:
Steven Drew
Brandon Wood
Troy Tulowitzki
Elvis Andrus (not much data, but upside puts him ahead of lower tier players)
Hanley Ramirez
Aybar
Clifton Pennington
Reid Brignac
Ronny Cedeno
by ohad on Feb 17, 2006 2:06 PM EST 0 recs








