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Community Prospect Next Wave Pitchers

Here is a list for the pitchers...again, please specify any other ideas in the comments:

Chuck Lofgren
John Danks
Eric Hurley
Will Inman
Anthony Swarzak
Kevin Slowey
Troy Patton
Brad Lincoln
Jake McGee
Humberto Sanchez

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Poll
Who should be the next pitchers?
John Danks
22 votes
Eric Hurley
13 votes
Will Inman
10 votes
Anthony Swarzak
15 votes
Troy Patton
25 votes
Brad Lincoln
17 votes
Kevin Slowey
18 votes
Jake McGee
15 votes
Humberto Sanchez
22 votes
Chuck Lofgren
20 votes

177 votes | Poll has closed

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Oops
I forgot about Morales.  Prolly should have had him instead of Swarzak...oh well.

by BaseballBrain on Dec 7, 2006 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well
Swar has better control and if he fastball comes back to where it was it's a good pitch and his curve is great

Morlan may have higher upside but he is more than likely going to end up in the bullpen.

1941 .406

by FrozenTed9 on Dec 7, 2006 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

carlos carrasco deserves to be mentioned in the
same breath as inman and mcgee.  i'd actually argue that he is more deserving of a spot on the poll than both.  by the numbers, and by the scouting reports, there is a lot more to like about carrasco than there is about inman or mcgee.  
it's a bad strategy to base your lineup on the relative beauty of a man's outs rather than the rate at which he makes them.

by overlord on Dec 7, 2006 4:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

can you elaborate
on the scouting report for Carrasco?

by siddfynch on Dec 8, 2006 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm
If Swarzak wins this I might have to think that I'm giving this group a little too much credit.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2006 6:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what's the frickin' deal with swarzak?
i can't figure it any more.  i have him on my team, and i'm trying to decide whether to keep him for next year.  

last offseason, he's talked up as a potential strong #2 with pretty good likelihood for a pitcher.  i draft him.

early in the hear, he kind of sucks.  not awful, but ERA in the fours, bad ratios.  reports say his command's off, maybe a mechanical problem.

down the stretch he starts throwing well.

season ends.  

BA leaves him off the FSL top 20 altogether. in the chat they say his stuff fell off.

later they make him twins #5 right behind parmelee, but with a totally lukewarm and basically content-free scouting report.

then john comes out and gives him a B+.

so is he any good or not?  in my heart i want to drop him to make room for some shiny new toy from this year's draft.  but then if he breaks out next year like gallardo did for me this year i'll feel like an idiot.  and nobody seems to have anything meaningful to say about him.  

i will go mad!

by wily mo on Dec 7, 2006 6:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's Gallardo
I'll say that much. Of course I'm more familiar with Gallardo and probably biased toward him.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2006 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

swarzak
is very good, and had a very good 2nd half last year.

Projects as a #2/#3 type imo.

by hotshotschamp on Dec 7, 2006 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

swarzak
ok, i'm looking at him on minorleguesplits.

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/pl/461/461872.html

here's what happened:

april:  .354 babip, .771 OPS against.  walked the planet: 6 per 9.  pretty good K rate, 8.6.  no homer problem.

may: walks cut by more than half to under 3 per 9;   will stay in that ballpark for rest of year.  still about as hittable.  BABIP is the same.  more homers.  K's even better, pushing 10.

june: even more hits.  .415 BABIP.  homers down a little.  walks same, K's same.

july: BABIP plummets from .415 to .198.  home runs plummet.  results-wise, everything suddenly looks much better.  K rate also drops, to about 6.5.  walks rise a little bit.

august: basically same as july.  BABIP stays low, Ks stay low, homers stay low, walks stay medium.  

so, in summary: in the first half, he was striking guys out but giving up a lot of hits.  he had a huge control problem in the first month but locked it down after that.  in the second half he became much less hittable - or had much better luck, depending on your point of view, although the simultaneous drop in HR rate makes me suspect hittability was a factor - while striking out fewer guys and walking a few more.

what a freak.

by wily mo on Dec 7, 2006 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My next pitchers in line
  1. Franklin Morales
  2. Phil Humber
  3. Troy Patton
  4. Jake McGee
  5. John Danks
  6. Humberto Sanchez
  7. Chuck Lofgren
  8. Wade Davis
  9. Clay Buchholz
  10. Will Inman
I'm not sure how Swarzak is getting so many votes here.  I have him at least another 30 down my list of pitchers.

by Brickhaus on Dec 7, 2006 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mine
looks a whole lot like that.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2006 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually
One I forgot - pop Ubaldo Jimenez in there around #5 or so.

by Brickhaus on Dec 7, 2006 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well...
Franklin Morales, Humberto Sanchez, and Jake McGee.... in that order.
Rays in '08....

by youALREADYknow on Dec 7, 2006 11:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lofgren's ceiling
anybody feel like they have a handle on it?  BA made him the indians' #2 prospect and then in the chat they called him a #4.  i was like, wtf.

by wily mo on Dec 8, 2006 1:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

#3 or #4
Sounds about right to me.  He doesn't have much of a ceiling, but he's already really close to reaching it; the certainty does have some value.

by Brickhaus on Dec 8, 2006 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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