White Sox about to deal Garland to Astros

by RandyKutcherHair on Dec 7, 2006 11:46 AM EST

The White Sox are making another pitching move today. Looks like they are set to deal Garland to the Astros for Willy Taveras, Taylor Buchholz, and now it looks like Jason Hirsh is likely to join the deal, too. I'm not as up to speed on National League prospects as I am with the American League; but that seems like too much for the White Sox to give up for Garland. In my opinion, Garland is over payed and isn't anything special.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6248404

Thoughts from others who know a lot more about the Astros prospects then me?

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My guess is that if Hirsh is included, then something has to be comming back from CWS in addition to Garland.

by FredUD on Dec 7, 2006 11:44 AM EST reply actions

I don't think so

Garland for Hirsh, Tavares, Buchholz is a good deal. I guess the Sox may include a low level pitcher, but nobody too big.

by themurph @ Minor League Ball on Dec 7, 2006 11:53 AM EST up reply actions

Hirsh

Yeah, Hirsh seems to be the key piece here. I'm not sure Taveras is an upgrade over Brian Anderson, and Buchholz seems average at best. Not sure why the Astros would be anxious to deal Hirsh, who could very well put up Garland-like numbers this year (well, maybe not for as many innings quite yet) at a fraction of the salary.

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." -Red Barber

by e 6 on Dec 7, 2006 11:56 AM EST reply actions

As a stros fan..

I've got one word for this rumor: hate.

Or if it really goes through, then I have another word: fired.

by beastball on Dec 7, 2006 12:00 PM EST reply actions

Opens

ABs for Burke and maybe Lane while preserving ABs for Phil Garner fave, orlando palmeiro

Fake Teams

by ephinz on Dec 7, 2006 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

Oh, I'm no Tavares fan...

but if we're going to pawn our spare parts I'd like to get someone that might actually be an upgrade.

I was hoping we could package Tarares with some good players to get someone good.

Oh yeah, I'm growing more and more bitter the further into the offseason we geet.

by beastball on Dec 7, 2006 12:06 PM EST up reply actions

Gotta be an easier way...

To trade WillyT and open up CF for Burke without sweetening the deal with Hirsh...

by cooper7d7 on Dec 7, 2006 12:06 PM EST up reply actions

Oh...

I meant if Hirsh is included, then it's horrible.

If it forces us out on Pettite, then it's horrible.

If we grab Garland without losing Hirsh or losing negociation power with Pettite, then fine, we lose some trading power for a statitically terrible pitcher.

by beastball on Dec 7, 2006 12:04 PM EST up reply actions

Excellent point

With Clemens & Pettite possibly if not probably leaving aside from Oswalt & Garland, & Woody Williams (who I wouldnt want to rely on. who else is there?

by goalieguy on Dec 7, 2006 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

In truth. . .

A close read of the article actually states that the Sox "were considering" this, not that it was about to get done. With all of the rumors that flow, I would likely place this in the rumor stage anyway, especially since the article is careful to note both sides have left the Meetings.

by BekaDeven on Dec 7, 2006 12:04 PM EST reply actions

never happen

This makes no sence at all. I have to doubt that Hirsh will be traded. Hirsh is a 4 starter next year with a potential of being a solid 3 for years; and Garland is a career and future 4 starter. Never happen.

"You hear a lot of things... because there are a lot of people talking." (Shamus original)

by Shamus on Dec 7, 2006 12:27 PM EST reply actions

silence, everyone

Thank you Shamus

by jrose643 on Dec 7, 2006 6:38 PM EST up reply actions

Garland...

is one of the most overrated pitchers in baseball IMO.

This is yet another steal for the White Sox. Only thing I don't like is that both pitchers they get back seem to be flyball pitchers

Or is Hirsh a groundball guy?

by SenorGato88 on Dec 7, 2006 12:46 PM EST reply actions

yes

i couldn't agree more...i've thought this for years, ever since that amazing spring that brandon mccarthy had that hes been just about THE most overhyped pitcher in baseball

by Rob Castellano on Dec 7, 2006 2:32 PM EST up reply actions