Poll for Minaya?
I read at the MLB Trade Rumors site that Beane has offered Harden to the Mets. The article there said it was for two players (Carlos Gomez and one of: Milledge, Humber, Pelfrey). The original article is a bit ambiguous, but it sounds like it's for 3 players (Carlos Gomez, Milledge, and one of the 2 pitchers). I'm curious what people here think about these possibilities, given the obvious bias toward prospects.
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Mets...duh
By the way, if any of you have ever met Billy, did he remind you of Abraham Lincoln? I know we have never met Honest Abe. But Billy is a tall, calm, well-spoken man that controls a room the minute he walks in. IMO he could be president someday if he wanted. But I would rather be a GM than be President.
by GMIL on Dec 29, 2006 4:34 PM EST 0 recs
Three
by ephinz on Dec 29, 2006 4:52 PM EST 0 recs
Gomez and Humber
If it doesn't fit your "win now and worry about the future when we get there" attitude, then don't win now. I can wait.
But I do think they need to get rid of either Milledge or Gomez. I love Milledge so much, but with the way he's been treated, I worry about his attitude.
by BlackOps on Dec 29, 2006 5:05 PM EST 0 recs
hmm
Gomez has huge bust potential. As for Milledge, Beltran is the best centerfielder in the game. Knowing Beane, the pitcher is the centerpiece of the deal though. I wouldn't deplete my future rotation for an oft-injured starter, but I would sell from my outfield strength.
by limozeen on Dec 29, 2006 8:40 PM EST 0 recs
+1
Milledge could be a very good player but he's not something that the Mets cannot find in free agency almost any given year, and the money truly isn't the same for the Mets. If the Mets have to pay 10-15 million a year for a premium offensive talent, they can afford to do it.
Its pretty tough to get a pitcher with Harden's talent at any time. Yes he's any injury risk, but he hasn't had major surgery yet and some of the injuries have been non-arm injuries.
I think Beane is a very astute judge of talent but he's missed a couple times too (Charles Thomas and Meyers say hi).
I would not include Humber or Pelfrey by any means. Both have top tier talent and have tasted the majors. I would want to see more of them in the majors. The others listed Billy could have.
by Torncuff on
Dec 29, 2006 10:12 PM EST
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Harden
I wouldn't trade Humber or Pelfrey. Both should be ready to contribute on a large scale by midseason. Nothing would piss me off more than to move Pelfrey for Harden, only to see Harden rehabbing in September while everyone raves about Pelfrey, the next great arm mined by Billy Beane.
I don't care about trading Gomez or Milledge. If Milledge turns into a .280/25/90 guy, then so what? Any team can find that on the open market. Gomez has impressive tools, but a .281/.350/.773 season with 7Hrs shouldn't make him an untouchable prospect for the Mets. If moving him, Maine and Mulvey could get a deal done for a Harden, I'd be all for it.
by nyr2k2 on Dec 30, 2006 2:39 PM EST 0 recs
If they...
For Haren I think the Mets should be willing to deal Pelfrey. Pelfrey and Milledge would be fair for Haren, as Haren has been safe and very very good. Pelfrey could end up better, but for the Mets, its worth the gamble, as its likely Pelfrey wont be quite the pitcher that Haren is.
The Mets rotation is awful right now. One of the 5 worst in baseball. They are going to need to acquire something or they risk falling well short of where they want to be this year.
Mets fans on here feel like if they plug Humber and Pelfrey into the rotation, they will automatically have a great staff because those two guys have upside. Young pitchers hardly pan out consistantly. Yes, when they do, teams end up having a very good year. The Tigers clearly wouldnt have been half as good without their young pitching breaking out. But they were lucky. A team like the Mets cant gamble their season hoping they'll be lucky and the pitching will pan out. If Pelfrey comes up and has normal growing pains, instead of being a #2 right away, Mets fans are going to complain that he is overrated as a prospect, and that he was never supposed to be that good, and the GM is an idiot for not trading him for Harden or Haren, etc etc etc.
I just use the Mets fans there as an example, but that opinion that plugging in pitching propects makes any rotation great goes for almost every teams fans. Most pitchers dont turn out to be Felix, or Liriano, or Weaver, or Verlander, etc etc etc. Most need some time before they turn into a great pitcher.
Sorry for the long rant, I just started rambling and rambling. Just my thoughts, let me know what you think.
by grozzy on
Jan 3, 2007 11:47 AM EST
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no way
by doublestix on Dec 31, 2006 3:22 PM EST 0 recs







