Follow-up: Daric Barton vs. Andy Marte

by jc3 on Jan 10, 2006 12:58 PM EST

This one should be very interesting considering it's Boston vs. Oakland, clearly the two most represented factions on this site.

For me, I'd rather have Marte, but this is another close one. Again, it's defensive value and more power that put him ahead in my book. However, the jury is definitely out on Marte, so this one should be very close.

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Better career: Daric Barton or Andy Marte?

Daric Barton

91 votes

Andy Marte

86 votes

177 votes | Poll has closed

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Marte

Defense, man. I love Daric Barton, but there is no way a DH is going to be more valuable than a 3B unless he absolutely destroys him offensively, which I don't expect to happen in this scenario.

by Klostrophobic on Jan 10, 2006 1:22 PM EST 0 recs

Marte pretty easily

I like Barton a lot, so it's a win win no matter who you pick. But Marte is at least above average defensively, and his power is phenomenal, not to mention an IsoOBP of .100 last season (in the minors, don't know what he did in Atlanta)

Barton has more discipline, Marte more power, but Marte does it while playing good defense at a skill position

by Jgaztambide on Jan 10, 2006 1:43 PM EST 0 recs

Marte

Marte. Barton will likely be a slightly more valuable hitter overall (massive OBP + above average SLG is more valuable than the inverse), but the positional aspect more than makes up for it.

by vegasbill on Jan 10, 2006 1:58 PM EST 0 recs

I know I am in the vast minority here

But I've never seen what the fuss was about with Marte. His performance has never knocked me out, and in the games I've seen him, he did not look athletic.

by samjjones on Jan 10, 2006 2:43 PM EST up 0 recs

Marte

Marte has always played in pitcher's leagues and pitcher's parks, which accounts for his low batting average. Despite that, his IsoOBP is about .100 (very good number), and his slugging has been good, especially his home run rates

Also, he plays third base and he does it well. Additionally, he put up a killer line in AAA as a 21-year old

by Jgaztambide on Jan 10, 2006 3:11 PM EST up 0 recs

So, by the comments here...

I guess everyone agreed that A-Rod rightfully won the MVP over Ortiz? Since a 3B is far more valuble than a DH.

by Boxkutter on Jan 10, 2006 9:53 PM EST 0 recs

A-Rod...

As a Red Sox fan, I have no issue with saying that A-Rod absolutely deserved the MVP over Papi.

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by RVachon on Jan 10, 2006 10:08 PM EST up 0 recs

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It depends on how much you'll value the defense. Honestly, I think Barton has a better chance of being a good major league hitter and I think he has a chance to be a much better hitter than Marte.

Marte may be hurt AVG wise by his home parks, but those dont influence that high K rate much.

Even if Marte has a IsoP of .250, his avg/obp will probably be something like .260/.350 giving him a .860 OPS.

Barton will only have to post an IsoP of .150 to hit an .860 OPS if he hits .300/.410

And I think Barton has a better chance to get his IsoP well over .150 than Marte does to get his OBP much over .350

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by blee1134 on Jan 10, 2006 10:34 PM EST 0 recs