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Thoughts on Zach Duke


Zach Duke (AP)

Thoughts on Zach Duke

I've received a lot of questions lately about Pirates rookie lefty Zach Duke, who has been little short of brilliant since being promoted to the Majors in early July. He's 6-0, 1.87 in nine starts, with a 42/16 K/BB in 57.2 innings, allowing 54 hits and just two homers so far. Before his promotion, he was 12-3, 2.92 in 16 starts at Triple-A Indianapolis, with a 66/23 K/BB in 108 innings, 108 hits allowed, eight homers. As you can see, he's been even more effective in the Show than he was in the minors.

What does the future hold for this guy?

First, let's review where Duke stood at the beginning of 2005. Here is the comment I wrote about him for the 2005 Baseball Prospect Book.

"Zach Duke emerged as one of the best southpaw prospects in the game last summer, dominating competition at two levels. He did this without a blazing fastball. His best heater is 90 MPH, and he often works at 87-88. But he gets good movement on the pitch, and keeps it low in the strike zone. The contrast with his fine curveball makes the fastball look faster to the eye than the radar gun. His changeup isn't as refined, but should get better with more experience. His conmand is very good, and he changes speeds with the fastball and curve very effectively. My only concern here is his low strikeout rate in Double-A; his K/IP was weak at -12 percent. Sinkerball guys can get away with that sometimes. . .but not always, witness Sean Burnett. Duke is a fine prospect and deserves a Grade B+ based on his performance last year, but he's not a sure thing just yet."

Duke ranked 33rd on my list of Top 50 Pitching Prospects.

Reviewing my analysis of Duke, I think it was pretty solid even though he has exceeded my expectations so far. Interestingly, his K/IP ratio for Pittsburgh is 6.55 K/9IP, compared to 5.50 K/9IP this year at Indianapolis. His K/IP has actually been considerably better in the majors than it was in the minors. Can he keep that up?

As noted, he keeps the ball down very well and generates grounders, which helps him succeed despite the lack of big-time K-rates.

So, where does he go from here?

Beware small sample sizes!. Yes, Duke has had an impressive debut, but the league can and will adjust at some point. He's not the kind of pitcher who has a huge margin for error, and he'll need a good defense behind him to win consistently. If I had to guess, I'd say that Duke will be a league-average starter in 2006, with the chance to move beyond that into John Tudor/Jimmy Key Successful Finesse Lefty Land if he stays healthy. The Pirates are already talking about backing off his workload for September, which I think is a good idea.

I'm putting a poll about Duke in the comments thread.

UPDATE A reader notes in the comments that Duke is throwing harder this year than last year, bumping his fastball into the lower 90s more consistently.

Poll
How Will Zach Duke Do In 2006?
Below Average starting pitcher but not horribly awful, .450 record, ERA 10-15 percent below average
10 votes
Pitch poorly, get sent to the minors at mid-season
0 votes
Pitches poorly in spring training, gets sent to the minors
0 votes
Pitched very well but gets hurt
3 votes
Pitches poorly and gets hurt
1 votes
Pitch Brilliantly, win 15-20 games, ERA in the top 10
19 votes
Pitch above-average baseball, win 12-14 games, ERA better-than-league
78 votes
League-Average starting pitcher, .500 record, ERA around league average
24 votes

135 votes | Poll has closed

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Duke's best fastball
hits 93 on the gun. Ringing up 93 is not a rare event for Duke. His fastball mostly sits at 90-91. He has two different curveballs. Both are very effective. He spots his changeup well. It's typically effective when he uses it.

Duke has much better stuff and better mechanics than Sean Burnett or Jeff Francis, for that matter.

by Steve Z on Aug 22, 2005 4:36 PM EDT   0 recs

duke
then his velocity is up from last year.

by John Sickels on Aug 22, 2005 4:42 PM EDT   0 recs

obviously guns vary
from park-to-park.  I saw agaisnt the Cubs Duke hit 94 at least 5 times.

by So Cal Bob on Aug 22, 2005 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duke
In the one start of his that I've seen, it appeared to me that he hides the ball well and that may cause his fastball to seem faster than it actually is. Although if that's the case, I don't know why he posted such pedestrian strikeout rates in the minors whereas someone like Yusmeiro Petit posts absurdly high ones.

by jeck on Aug 22, 2005 5:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Duke is a lefthander???
Duke's K-rate climbed a bit when he hit A+ (9.84 per 9 IP). If I recall correctly, one explanation that appeared in season for the improvement (from 7.18 per 9 IP) was the addition of a change up. He had slumped during the second half of his A- season and adding the change up was an adjustment he made. His K-rate fell once he was promoted to AA in 2004 (6.31 per 9 IP). But, Duke was also throwing more innings that year than he had previously accumulated in a season while also moving up a level. Still, it's difficult to account for the differences between his AAA and ML numbers without using non-explanation explanations like `He's throwing better now...'. Now that he's pitching in the EL, Petit is no longer whiffing 12 per 9 IP as he had been in the lower minor leagues. Still, he's nearly striking out 10 per 9 IP.

by Steve Z on Aug 22, 2005 6:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Vargas
Duke's off to a super start.  It seems that Duke has drawn so much talk that Jason Vargas has been flying under the radar.  He's also off to a great start on his career.  Obviously the same cautions on small sample sizes apply to him as well.

by eastin on Aug 22, 2005 6:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Shea
I happened to go to Duke's start at Shea Stadium last Thursday (odd, since I'm neither a Mets nor Pirates fan, but no matter). The radar gun display in the stadium had his fastball at 90-92 consistently, with a few clocked at 93. Although the last two innings he was at 88-90.

So yeah, chalk up another park showing his increased velocity.

by Anthony on Aug 22, 2005 9:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Watched this too
I watched this game on TV, and Tom Seaver was making repeated comments that Duke was throwing a bit harder than their scouting report had given.  Seaver said he was no "soft tossing lefty" like he had expected, and was genuinely impressed by Duke's ability to command his pitches and keep hitters off-balance.  He was throwing a 90-92 MPH fastball, and a 75 MPH changeup.  

by samjjones on Aug 23, 2005 10:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

possible comparison
He sounds a little like Mark Buerhle.

by shaftr on Aug 23, 2005 4:01 AM EDT   0 recs

Buerhle
He reminds me of Buerhle - doesn't throw outrageously hard but  is by no means a soft-tosser, and hits lots of different numbers on the gun in the course of a single start. Buerhle was also Duke's #1 PECOTA comparable last I checked.

And yeah, Duke consistently threw his fastball at 92 or 93 in the starts I've seen. It looks a bit faster because of his delivery. He is crafty, but he is so much more than the usual crafty lefty.

by Charlie on Aug 23, 2005 6:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Zito
Duke reminds me a bit of Barry Zito from a few years ago... very impressive command for a young guy with a big, sweeping curve.

by nygiants5811 on Aug 23, 2005 10:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Great Divide
I think Duke is one of the players where he falls in the divide of statistics and physical scouting. He might not have the sparkling statistics, excepting winning, and that is something that the regular scout would notice. He is just a player that cannot be nailed down by either side of the debate. Only time will tell.

by vanslyke18 on Aug 23, 2005 2:34 PM EDT   0 recs

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