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San Francisco Giants Pre-Season Top 20 Review


Eddy Martinez-Esteve as a Florida State Seminole

   San Francisco Giants Pre-Season Top 20 in Review

1) Matt Cain, RHP
   20 starts at Triple-A Fresno. 4.15 ERA, but 128/59 K/BB in 111 innings, with only 86 hits allowed. Very strong K/IP and H/IP ratios. His command needs to improve but he remains a premium prospect.  
2) Merkin Valdez, RHP
   Pitching effectively at Double-A Norwich, 3.38 in 18 starts, 85/38 K/BB in 96 innings. Main worry here remains health and durability.
3) Eddy Martinez-Esteve, OF
   Hitting .324/.431/.529 with 10 homers, 61 walks, 62 strikeouts in 346 at-bats for Class A San Jose. 35 doubles. Good power, plate discipline, a terrific hitter basically. Question of course is defense.
4) David Aardsma, RHP
   Traded to the Cubs, has a 2.83 ERA combined between Double-A Norwich and Double-A West Tennessee. Command remains an issue, I still expect him to be a good pitcher.
5) Nate Schierholtz, OF
   .315/.358/.507 with 10 homers, 28 doubles for San Jose. Certainly hitting well. Fly in the ointment is 98 strikeouts, 21 walks in 91 games, 355 at-bats. Lots of potential but should not be rushed.
6) Craig Whitaker, RHP
   5.48 ERA, 49/28 K/BB in 35 innings for Class A Augusta, including 4 saves. Excellent K/IP ratio, but command has been a major problem. Lots of potential, but high risk.
7) Fred Lewis, OF
   Hitting .268/.356/.386 with 49 walks, 24 steals in 355 at-bats for Norwich. Good speed, draws walks, not much power.
8) Alfredo Simon, RHP
   12 saves at Norwich, but 5.29 ERA, 39/18 K/BB in 66 innings, 77 hits allowed. Ratios are not impressive. Control OK but K/IP and H/IP are weak.
9) Patrick Misch, LHP
   Struggled at Triple-A Fresno, with 6.35 ERA in 19 starts, 135 hits given up in 102 innings. Recently demoted to Double-A, gave up 3 runs and 9 hits in 5.1 innings in his first start. Disappointing season.
10) John Bowker, OF
   .257/.307/.370 at San Jose. Nothing to get excited about here. Plate discipline marginal, weak OBP, not much power. Another disappointment.
11) Marcus Sanders, 2B
    Hit .303/.399/.418 with 43 steals and 51 walks in 323 at-bats for Augusta. Excellent performance, very high walk rate combined with lots of speed. One of my favorites.
12) Billy Sadler, RHP
    3.90 ERA in 34 games, 4 saves for Norwich. 54/23 K/BB in 60 innings, 48 hits. Still projects as a useful middle reliever.
13) Todd Linden, OF
    Hitting .344/.455/.702 for Triple-A Fresno, 24 homers, 53 walks in 285 at-bats, finally showing the power scouts have projected since his college days. Hit .172/.238/.345 in 17 games for the Giants. Frankly, I still don't know what to make of him. This is the kind of guy who could have four mediocre Major League seasons in his career, one really awful season, and one All-Star campaign.
14) Clay Timpner, OF
    Hitting .300/.348/.431 with 30 steals, 11 triples for San Jose. Gap power, speed are very impressive. Plate discipline may be marginal as his walk rate is rather low so far, but strikeouts aren't out of bounds.
15) Travis Ishikawa, 1B
    Hitting .294/.395/.552 with 16 homers for San Jose. Breaking out in a big way this year. Scouts have always loved him, statheads have been less impressed. Right now it looks like the scouts were right. Caveat: he is striking out more than once per game.
16) Justin Knoedler, C
    Hitting .282/.348/.416 for Triple-A Fresno. I don't think he'll hit well enough to start, and he could end up as a Quadruple-A type guy.
17) Justin Hedrick, RHP
    4.14 ERA, 12 saves at San Jose. Best mark is K/IP: 51 strikeouts in just 37 innings. Command needs some work, but impressive "stuff" indicators in the numbers.
18) Brian Burres, LHP
    8-4, 3.78 in 18 games for Norwich, 69/36 K/BB in 86 innings, 78 hits allowed. Ratios are fair-to-middlin', a classic Grade C pitching prospect who could surprise as easily as he could fade away.
19) Jonathan Sanchez, LHP
    Sleeper! 4.02 ERA, but 107/27 K/BB in 85 innings for Augusta. Excellent K/IP is a positive marker, keep track of him.
20) Scott Munter, RHP
    2.43 ERA for the Giants. However, I don't think this is sustainable: note 8/8 K/BB in 30 innings. Walk rate is low but K/IP is in the dangerously bad category.

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Scott Munter
I agree with everything you said except the Munter analysis.  He's basically got one killer pitch, and it's not a strikout pitch.  He's got just about the heaviest sinker since Greg "Moon Man" Minton and I recall him having a pretty good career as a reliever for the Giants.  Munter will never be a starter, and probably not a closer, but he could very well sustain this type of performance as a middle/setup guy.  He gets a steady diet of ground balls and, yeah, some of them get through the infield, but a lot of them also end up as the beginning of a DP.  I really think this is a case where you need to look at other things than K ratios.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jul 24, 2005 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

munter
Perhaps. It's possible. You have to respect what he's done this yhear, and sinkerball guys sometimes get away with low strikeout rates. Note taht Minter's K rate isn't low, it is miniscule. I just want to see more.

by John Sickels on Jul 24, 2005 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

john
overall i think the Giants system has showed real improvement this year. And in relation to Cain, i am not surprised to see his walk total increase this year, he is facing much more disciplined hitters this year IMO. Would EME, Sanders and Ishikawa all have shots at B+ ratings next year, if they maintain thier numbers.I'm really excited about sanders, but he has alot of errors at second this year, does he have the arm strengh to possibly move to the OF?

by GiantOkie on Jul 24, 2005 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stuff
Yes, EME, Sanders, and Ishikawa could all be B+ guys by the end of the year. I've heard Sanders in the outifeld...don't know if that will happen or not but it is at least possible.

by John Sickels on Jul 24, 2005 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW
Sanders' errors have come at SS

by kenshin1 on Jul 24, 2005 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay
didn't realize they had him playimg that much short, thanks.

by GiantOkie on Jul 24, 2005 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question for John
Aside from 05 Draftee's, who do think has moved onto the list? Brian Wilson?

by irwin on Jul 24, 2005 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EME to 1st?
Is Ishikawa the reason the Giants haven't put EME at first base yet? It seems to be that he'll be below average at best in the outfield. Why not give him the experience to turn into a decent defensive first baseman?

by jeck on Jul 24, 2005 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Glove, Bad Glove
Ishikawa's a pretty smooth glove with a chance to develop into an excellent defensive 1B.  Flipping him and EME as is often discussed would seem to have the affect of weakening two different positions defensively.

Moving Sanders to the OF wouldn't make much sense since the Giants have several OF prospects and almost no middle IF ones.  "He's only 19" should be the mantra.  If that doesn't work try: "check Derek Jeter's A-ball defensive stats."

by Roger on Jul 25, 2005 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

John
You skipped you're typical summation line for the Giants organization.  How has the season fared for them?  Do you see any improvement in the system or its potential impact?

by Roger on Jul 25, 2005 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

giants
It's going OK. No gigatnic surprises or outright total failures. It's good to see Ishikawa develop. And Sanders. I worry about Valdez's arm. It remains a thin system overall, with some guys who could be impact players but a big gap in the middle.

by John Sickels on Jul 25, 2005 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What makes you worrry?
Mechanics? History?

by irwin on Jul 25, 2005 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

valdez
I have had three different sources tell me that Valdez won't stay healthy.

by John Sickels on Jul 25, 2005 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slow starts
John, How much do you weigh slow starts in your analysis?  Bowker (and to a much lesser extent, Schierholtz) got off to bad beginnings at SJ.  Of greater interest was Lewis's start in the Eastern league, which has bad weather in April and May.  All three have been on a major tear in June and July.

by tedfordfan on Jul 26, 2005 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ishikawa
"Hitting .294/.395/.552 with 16 homers for San Jose. Breaking out in a big way this year. Scouts have always loved him, statheads have been less impressed. Right now it looks like the scouts were right. Caveat: he is striking out more than once per game."

In spite of it being his 3rd full season in A ball, all A leagues aren't the same, and he's kind of growing on me. And if he keeps advancing a level per year, his ML ETA is late 2007 at 23 years old.

He's season isn't really that much different than what he did last year at Hagerstown and the CAL league has that hitter's circuit rep.

I'm not sure why the statheads wouldn't like him.  Always had a good walk rate.  Lack of power at 18 and 19 isn't surprising.  Good one to watch for the AA transition.

by losgigantes on Jul 26, 2005 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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