John's Revised Top 50

by FunWithHeadlines on Jul 15, 2005 9:04 PM EDT

I won't post John's revised lists for obvious reasons, but newsletter subscribers got them in the mail over the last few days. All I'm saying is that as a Felix-Verlander-Billingsley owner, I'm as happy as can be.

But I have some questions about some pitchers who did not make the revised list (or the original 2005 list for that matter). I'm curious what the readership here thinks of their progress and chances.

One guy is Chuck Tiffany, LA Dodgers. The southpaw is leading his team with 7 wins so far, and seems to be having a good year. What do you guys know about his underlying numbers, and skill progression? Is he still looking good?

Then there's Greg Miller, also of the Dodgers. I've read that he continues down the rehabilitation path. Any news on him? Think he's worth hanging onto in case that old skill level trumps his injuries?

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Tiffany and Miller

going back to last season, when he was in low-A, Tiffany has always had outstading K-rate's: 9 - 11 per nine innings. He'll give up his fair share of walks, but not enough to worry anyone at this point. It seems as if his biggist problem is the HR, but otherwise dominating. I think that if he stays healthy his k rate will decline as he rises into the upper minors, given that his fast ball is 88-92. If he stays healthy i could see him as similar to david wells or odalis perez, other stocky southpaws with problems with the gopher-ball.

Miller has finally come back to pitch in the gulf coast league. The results arent embarassing, but he obviousley has a ways to go before he is back to the guy that struck out 40 AA batters in 28 innings as an 18 year old. Hard to believe he's still only 20.

by sanchez101 on Jul 15, 2005 10:15 PM EDT reply actions

Billingsley

I saw him pitch tonight in Montgomery. I think I caught him on a bad night. Three runs in five innings. Topped at 93. Didn't look bad, but didn't look dominating.

Weird to see Hong-Chih Kuo pitching. I thought he was dead...

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by jayg @ Minor League Ball on Jul 16, 2005 1:46 AM EDT reply actions

the biscuits have a hex on billingsley

its wierd. in 15IP, hes given up 22 runs against the biscuits.

against everyone else in the southern league, billingsley dominates them with an ERA of 2.5 or under.

you did catch him on a bad day. i think the long lay off with with the all star break and stuff got to him. I was listening to the game on the radio, his command was off today. oh well.

anyways, how were the other dodger prospects? loney, laeroche, guzman, martin and young? did kuo impress?

by npurcell on Jul 16, 2005 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Suns

It was only one game, but I have seen the Suns three times this season. May see them again tonight.

*Guzman. Very much a bad ass. He has a biiig bat.

*D. Young. Not as obviously good, but that homer last night was opposite field and deep. It was an impressive stroke.

*Loney. Very smooth player. Very natural at 1B. I'm surprised his production isn't better because he obviously has a clue at the plate and has a clean swing. Maybe he just needs more development time? I like watching him play a lot.

*LaRoche. This was my first game to see him. He looked OK. He'd look real good in one AB, then totally out of the next one. I can't read him yet.

*Kuo. Biscuits were clueless against him. Didn't get a velocity report but he looked darn good.

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by jayg @ Minor League Ball on Jul 16, 2005 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

tiffany

Tiffany should be on the list somewhere. He'll make it on the August list certainly. I should have included him.

by John Sickels on Jul 16, 2005 12:11 PM EDT reply actions

Phil Hughes

I thought he was a bit low, even with all of John's caveats. It doesn't seem to me that there are a ton of RHP's with more upside than him, and I think he's been just as good or better than the Gio Gonzalez's of the world.

by SirCaptain on Jul 16, 2005 12:29 PM EDT reply actions

Brian Bannister

I'm a little surprised he didn't make the top 50.

by splitter on Jul 17, 2005 12:35 PM EDT reply actions

Miller news

Answering my own question about Greg Miller:

"Greg Miller, one of the best pitching prospects in the organization until requiring a pair of shoulder operations, struck out six in three innings Saturday for the Dodgers' Gulf Coast League rookie team. Miller has 14 strikeouts in 12 innings"

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by FunWithHeadlines on Jul 17, 2005 7:45 PM EDT reply actions

Miller Promoted

The Dodgers have decided to promote Miller to high A. He'll face the St. Lucie Mets in a game later this week. Dodger scouting director Logan White watched Miller pitch on Saturday, and he said that Miller "looked as good as I've ever seen him."

by CanuckDodger on Jul 18, 2005 1:57 AM EDT reply actions