Shopping Juan Rincon
Flipping the Set-Up Man
Last year Juan Rincon was one of the premier set-up men in baseball. He has been comparable this year, except for a 10-day suspension for using performance-enhancing drugs.
Year K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 WHIP ERA
2005 10.38 3.69 2.81 0.23 1.18 2.54
2004 11.63 3.51 3.31 0.55 1.02 2.63
If the Twins were to shop Juan Rincon, what could they get that would meet current and future needs? Include major league ready prospects, of course.
How much has Rincon's value been affected by the PED suspension?
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what i don't get
I would not trade any of the bullpen guys to help this team, but rather dip into a talent rich farm system to fill those needs.
Am I in the minority here?
same here
The talent in the farm system can be used to bring in player(s). That said, Ryan shouldn't deplete his team just for this year...
I didn't say just for this year
realistically...
by dcarrano on Jul 12, 2005 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Why
My choice for the closer would be Rincon. He has better stuff than Crain, who has been good so far, but a little lucky too.
by alskntwnsfn on Jul 12, 2005 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
given the need
If the need is that serious, Nathan would have to be involved as he could return quality (again assuming you want to deal from your MLB roster and the bullpen). Otherwise you would have to dip into your system to make a significant trade. Personally I would peddle Durbin and Bosner first as I don't think either will amount to much.
Ryan should have gone after Polanco and should target Ensberg in another few weeks, if available. Maybe Melvin Mora since he knows the pitchers in the AL--Cuddyer and Durbin for MM?
Again, I would not weaken your advantage, but trade from your system to upgrade the O. But that's just me.
Dodgers?
Rincon for A.Perez
by natsfan2005 @ Minor League Ball on Jul 13, 2005 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes... Polanco
I wish we would have gotten Polanco, but oh well. Ensberg isn't going anywhere, IMO.
I'm fine with trading Nathan, say, to the Red Sox, as long as we get Youkils and Hanley Ramirez or Pedroia in return. Epstein probably won't do that though, which is smart. You're right that Rincon doesn't have as much value as Nathan, which is too bad because he's almost just as good. I'm pretty sure TR knows that though.
by alskntwnsfn on Jul 12, 2005 8:04 PM EDT reply actions
Market
Contrary to some peoples belief, you do not need to have four superstar relievers. Nathan, Romero and Crain or Rincon, Romero, and Crain is still one of the best bullpens in baseball and would be a terrifying force in the post season. Having that extra arm is not worth not having an extra bat. You only need three relievers total to get through a post season when you have good starting pitching (see Yankees 1998-2001, Rivera, Nelson, and sometimes Stanton). Trade a reliever and downgrade a little in the 6th inning and get a big time bat or two.

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