Willingham frustrations

by mjwelch11 on Jun 9, 2005 10:29 AM EDT

What more does this guy have to do (offensively) in AAA (.340/.474/.747)??? While it's true his defense lacks, one would think that he could spot start for LoDuca or Encarnacion from time to time.

For a team ranked 26th in HR's and 22nd in runs scored, I'm just confused with the Florida brass right now.

I know we've discussed before, but what are your thoughts on why he hasn't received the call yet?

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Not that it's a huge thing...

But adjusted from Alberquerque to a normal ballpark, I'd guess that Willingham's numbers are a lot closer to .300/.435/.600. Alberquerque is the most hitting favorable ballpark in the minors above (and possibly including) rookie ball...

by Brickhaus on Jun 9, 2005 11:18 AM EDT 0 recs

Willingham's frustrations

What's your point? Is there somethong wrong with a 600 Slg.%?

by butkussayers on Jun 9, 2005 11:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

Where To Play Him?

They don't trust him behind the plate, and Enky's actually having a good year, having finally started to figure out that whole "wait for your pitch, instead of flailing away at everything" deal.

He'd be an upgrade on the bench over Conine, but who wouldn't be? And calling him up for bench duty isn't going to help his trade value.

If I had to guess, I'd say he ends up in Seattle for Guardado, or maybe Tampa for Baez...

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by ESiegrist on Jun 9, 2005 11:47 AM EDT 0 recs

as a met fan

i'd love for them to try and get him. the fact that we don't have much to offer gets in the way of that. and the fact that minaya is unable to recognize talent that isn't "toolsy." since we're used to lackluster defense out of our catcher willingham would fit in perfectly. guess i'll have to keep dreaming......

by DavidWrightismyGod on Jun 9, 2005 12:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

don't forget...

its actually toolsy AND latin

by natsfan2005 on Jun 9, 2005 12:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

i know but...

i didn't wanna be the one to say it. but now that you have.....its basically the truth.

by DavidWrightismyGod on Jun 9, 2005 12:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

when the Marlins

man up and trade either Lowell or Pierre, a spot for Willingham will appear

http://maverickball.com

by Maverick on Jun 9, 2005 1:19 PM EDT 0 recs

Let's write the GM

The Albuerque park factor was 1115 last year. If you just divide his rate stats by 1.115 you get:
.305/.425/.668. Still very worthy of a callup.

Here are my best guesses at his address/email. Maybe we need a "Bucky Backers" type group. We can even include Jonny Gomes too.

Larry Beinfest
Florida Marlins
2267 Dan Marino Blvd.
Miami, Florida 33056

lbeinfest@flamarlins.com

by kgknapp on Jun 9, 2005 1:47 PM EDT 0 recs

Yeah but...

You forgot to account for the PCL's league factor (which I think was about 1065), so you didn't divide by enough. Also, that PF formula only works as a divider for BA, not for OBP and Slg. There's a seperate type of park factor for slugging (but I can't remember where one can find it), and IsoW usually isn't affected as much by the park factor as the other two categories.

In any case, using your method, 1.065 x 1.115 = 1.187, that leads to .286/.399/.629. Still very good, but it's a huge context adjustment. The Isotopes' home park makes Coors Field look like Chavez Ravine...

by Brickhaus on Jun 9, 2005 3:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well

what do you say about Willingham's power last year in Carolina?

http://maverickball.com

by Maverick on Jun 9, 2005 3:58 PM EDT 0 recs

Willingham's frustrations

Yes, it is tragic to me that so many worthy players are made to waste away in the minors, buried behind veterans who are inferior and in some cases have no business being in the majors. It is cruel and heartless for Organizations to not utilize or trade these players nearing their mid-twenties--it is happening to Scott Hairston as we blog. Willingham is at that dangerous "use him or lose him" point in his career (age) and needs to get his chance now! At least trade the poor guy!

by butkussayers on Jun 9, 2005 11:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Rickie Weeks

Ok numbers guys, what are Weeks translated numbers? Should the Bewers bring him up Now? Will he be a superstar?

by butkussayers on Jun 10, 2005 12:02 AM EDT 0 recs

Weeks needs time and....

If the Brewers find themselves 15 games off the wild card spot - Weeks will be up or if Bill Hall starts tailing off. Even if they trade Spivey - Hall would probably get the start based on his current performance.

The other thing with teams is chemistry and I have said this on a previous Willingham thread - the Marlins started struggling right around the time that LoDuca had to miss 3-4 starts because he got dinged up. While he does not post the power numbers that Willingham does - he throws out over 30% of his runners which is about 3X's Willinghams rate. In addition - the pitching staff had been dealing some fierce stuff.

All that said - the Marlins are 2-8 in their last 10 and LoDuca missed at least 4 of those games. If having him back in the line-up does not turn things around - McKeon may opt to shake things up. Until Willingham improves his defense - the best he can hope to be is Matt LeCroy playing 5 games at C, 5 at 1B and 10 at DH which leaves him which can diminish his confidence and trade value. In addition - if he struggles hitting while not being in a catching role - then this guy will be done.

If the Marlins find themselves out of the playoff hunt - LoDuca may end up with team in the hunt looking for help and Willingham will take over. Until then - Willingham will need to continue mashing in the minors.

by slickwdb on Jun 10, 2005 8:18 AM EDT 0 recs