Jorge Cantu - boom or bust?
Cantu had a nice 2 HR performance tonight to give him 9 on the season. Going into the game, the 23 year old had the following vitals:
AVG: .306
OBP: .326
SLG: .475
K/BB: 30/4
The big red flag reveals itself in the last category, which also shows up in the OBP.
The question is this, what does the future hold for Cantu?
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Poor Mans Soriano
My guess is he can be an above average hitting second baseman for several years. I would expect that he could keep up his current numbers, raising his OBP during his prime to around .350, not great, but good enough.
Sandberg
by PolkCountyRay on Jun 18, 2005 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
Depends on position
by jhelfgott on Jun 18, 2005 2:48 AM EDT reply actions
Harsh...
What kind of a question is this? He will probably be below average in K/BB for his career. Isn't it obvious already this guy can hit?
Let's not let ourselves get too carried away here.
Nice remark above about Sandberg and his not so great OBP.
by stjp5 on Jun 18, 2005 9:59 AM EDT reply actions
Some stats
Ryne Sandberg - Age 23 - 158 games
AVG: .261
OBP: .316
SLG: .351
K/BB: 79/51
Ryne Sandberg - Age 25 - 153 games
AVG: .305
OBP: .364
SLG: .504
K/BB: 97/57
Jorge Cantu - Age 23 - year to date
AVG: .309
OBP: .329
SLG: .502
K/BB: 31/4
Omar Infante - Age 22 (last year) - 142 games
AVG: .264
OBP: .317
SLG: .449
K/BB: 112/40
There's a tendency to label any 2B prospect with poor plate discipline and good pop "the next Soriano"... just like any RHP who doesn't burn the radar guns but relies on control is dubbed the next Maddux.
Personally, I can't even mention Cantu in the same sentence as Sandberg and Soriano.
okbluejays relax...
Of course if we were to put too much stock into OBP and stats we would see that Cantu's numbers are much better than Sandbergs. Not that anyone would say Cantu is better.
I did not see anyone say he was the next Soriano or Sandberg. Anyway..the guy can hit regardless of his OBP in MLB at age 23.
by stjp5 on Jun 18, 2005 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
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I don't think he'll end up nearly as good as either Sandberg or Soriano... And, regardless of his high batting average and strong HR numbers, I'm not yet convinced he will succeed as a major league hitter over a long period of time. If he does this for the rest of the year, and then for the first little while of next year, I'll be singing a different tune. but even still, these numbers out of a 3B are pretty average. In that respect I agree with one of the other posters.
No offense meant
Sometimes subtlety gets lost in the real of e-mail and my own clumsy articulations. Point taken about comparisons.
As a third baseman we will have to see if enough power develops. He would look better as a seconbaseman. However for now he is 4th in slugging and OPS for those that qualify for 3B in the AL. 3rd in the same categories for 2nd basemen. As you note his OBP is low (.328). Even though it's early, he still has superior numbers, especially for a 23 year-old.
I wonder what John or BP says is a large enough number of ABs to begin to feel comfortable a player.
by stjp5 on Jun 19, 2005 9:45 AM EDT reply actions

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