I don't know much about Peavy's pitching arsenal. I do know that if 2-3 miles were taken off Beckett or Harden's fastball, they wouldn be nearly as good. Beckett throws all his pitches hard. He has like a hard sinker, fastball and i think a cutter. Taking a few MPS's off him would really hurt him. With Harden, it would hurt the same. His splitter is really good, so i think he would be a little more effective. Probably a little better than average. As i said, i don't know about Peavy.

peavy isnt really covered by any major media outlets. its hard to know what his arsenal is...at least here in michigan. i would like to judge, but i didnt here anything about peavy's incredible numbers last year until the offseason for my fantasy baseball team. east coast bias maybe?

Harden relies a lot on his fastball because he really does not have another plus pitch.  He would still have a 90+ MPH fastball, though it may not be enough to keep a major league hitter off balance.

Beckett has other pitches in his arsenal.  He has a great curveball but his change can be inconsistent at times.  His fastball would likely still be 90+ MPH.

Peavy's fastball may dip as low as 88 MPH in this scenario.  I think Peavy's control is as good if not better than Beckett's (I have not taken the time to look up the BB/9, so if I am wrong someone correct me).  The difference is that Peavy's BEST pitch is his changeup.  When he gets into a count, he often sets people up using his change and not his fastball.  Peavy also has enough command of his curve that he can throw at any point in an at bat.

Picking Peavy over Beckett may be debatable, but I think that since the fastball is not really even Peavy's best pitch, he is the most adaptable in this scenario.

I'm inclined to agree that Peavy would be the one pitcher out of this group most likely to succeed if he lost 2-3 MPH off his fastball. I really like the movement on all of Peavy's pitches, much better than Beckett's. His off-speed pitch truly is a thing of beauty when he's on.

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Since hs that nasty curve, a second pitch that neither Harden nor Peavy can match, I bet Beckett would be the best after losing 3 mph. He would still have good velocity, whereas Peavy would drop down to average. Harden? Only if he improves his splitter and slider.

My money is on Peavy having TJ in August. His motion makes me cringe.  

His fastball has the most movement so he would be less effective. I don't think that Beckett would be greatly affected because of his curve. I think Harden would lose a lot of value because he has the least movement and his secondary pitches aren't at Peavy's or Beckett's level.

Yeah, John, what are your feelings about Peavy's throwing motion?  Like Irwin said, it makes him cringe.  I remember thinking the same thing when I saw Jesse Foppert pitch (his arm whipping across his body), and we all know how that turned out.....Is it somewhat reasonable to almost expect the same situation to crop up for Peavy?

Peavy has much more movement on his pitches, the above radar readings and pitch array sound right to me as well. Peavy is smaller especially compared to Beckett and probably has more of an injury risk due to his mechanics. I think Harden would be lest effective without the good heat, as his 93-95 would be fairly straight. But he has the least amount of wear on his arm (not a pitcher all of his life). I will say that saying Beckett's curve wouldn't be affected by reduced velocity isn't necessarily true. One of the things that makes a real good, sharp curve is arm speed. You can throw a later years Blyleven or Mike Boddicker rainbow curve without throwing hard, but a Nolan Ryan, early Mark Langston, or Kerry Wood hard yaker has to have arm speed. Beckett does have alot of speed to lose! BTW, Beckett is a huge guy, if he and Peavy stood side by side people would not believe the difference.

I would take Peavy.  I think having such a good changeup keeps hitters off balance so losing 2-3 mph wouldn't hurt him much.

I would take Peavy then Harden then Beckett.  Peavy at this point has the best understanding of how to be a pitcher.  Harden has the least injury history and is the youngest and is with the team that is most likely to keep him healthy.  I like Beckett a lot but he still hasn't even put together one year yet and the blisters keep coming.  As far as Peavy's pitch selection goes he actually throws a lot of different pitches and because he has so much movement they all look a lot alike except for the change.  Here is how I would break him down:

Fastball:  Usually will throw it at the beginning of an at bat to get ahead or will throw it up in the zone if he's going for the strikeout.  Threw it harder last year than I've ever seen him before and topped out at 96.  Still has some movement but not nearly as much as the cutter

Cutter:  Will throw at any time and it moves a ton.  Reached 90-92mph with it consistently last year

Changeup:  Really effective pitch for him as the year went on as he got more confidence in it and started throwing it in all counts including first pitch of at bat or even when he fell behind.

Slurve: I'm not sure whether he calls it a slider or a curve so I'm calling it a slurve.  Sometimes he throws it hard and it looks like Cutter and sometimes he takes something off and it moves more like a curve.  

The local paper here mentioned that Peavy and Padres are close to new contract that would take him through arbitration and possibly into a year of free agency.  He switched agents last year to Barry Axelrod (from Boras) so I would expect he will stay in San Diego for a long time.

Peavy is also one of my favorite pitchers in the league.  One thing that I always respected in this young guy, was how he attacked Bonds.  Of course, Bonds didn't always loose to Peavy.  But the first time I saw them match up, Peavy had Bonds completely confused.  That's not easy to do.

It was one of the best matchups I can remember from last year.

Brian

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